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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I hope later this year we get a 2ghz'ish, 4"+ screen, front facing camera, vanilla flavored, sliding keyboard having phone. That would make me empty my pockets immediately
I think Motorola said they would have a 2.2 Ghz phone by the end of this year.
 

ARon

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Well yeah...2ghz phones by the end of the year/beginning of next year are a no brainer. But it's the other options I want to come with it
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Well yeah...2ghz phones by the end of the year/beginning of next year are a no brainer. But it's the other options I want to come with it

With the iPhone 4 and EVO having the FF cameras, I think we'll start to see them roll around at the same time as the 2.2 Ghz phones as well. Face time is pretty cool and people want something similar to it now. It won't be long.

Does anyone know about eFuse and if it will ever be cracked? I'm starting to see people on forums shy away from Moto products because they'll be able to root but not put on custom ROMs. I'm sure that affects kernels too, right? So maybe overclocking will be limited.

Or maybe I'm not understanding the situation right.
 

Casey

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Once the Epic 4G gets rooted and I can put stock Android on it, that's pretty much my dream phone right now. Full QWERTY, 4" screen, front-facing camera, 1GhZ Hummingbird processor..... I hope HTC and Motorola take a cue from this and bring out similar devices.



I don't really like the design that much but it's ticking damn near all the boxes.
 

THEV1LL4N

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will you buy it from america, casey? you're so lucky!! i prefer the design of the original galaxy s, but i also like the four buttons at the bottom of the pro, similar to other htc and motorola devices
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
will you buy it from america, casey? you're so lucky!! i prefer the design of the original galaxy s, but i also like the four buttons at the bottom of the pro, similar to other htc and motorola devices

Yeah, we got everything here.


If anyone is running Rom Manager, I upped a link to the premium version so everything is available. Download com.koushikdutta.rommanager.license.apk from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way



Why do people prefer CM ROMs? Is it for the themes and all? Because it seems to me most of the ROMs are merely for aesthetics only. The only difference being between a 2.1 and a 2.2 ROM. If it's speed you're after, why not just flash a kernel that has what you want?
 

Casey

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Yeah, we got everything here.


If anyone is running Rom Manager, I upped a link to the premium version so everything is available. Download com.koushikdutta.rommanager.license.apk from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way



Why do people prefer CM ROMs? Is it for the themes and all? Because it seems to me most of the ROMs are merely for aesthetics only. The only difference being between a 2.1 and a 2.2 ROM. If it's speed you're after, why not just flash a kernel that has what you want?

Thanks for the link.

CM ROMs are the best because there's a fuckton of features added that are only in CM ROMs. I can't be arsed to find a feature list right now, but there's well over 25 additional features, things like FLAC support, USB and Bluetooth tethering, etc, etc. They also have the best support system of any custom ROM, the biggest team working on them, and get updates the most. CM had the first and best ROMS for Eclair, FroYo and they will be first with Gingerbread too.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Thanks for the link.

CM ROMs are the best because there's a fuckton of features added that are only in CM ROMs. I can't be arsed to find a feature list right now, but there's well over 25 additional features, things like FLAC support, USB and Bluetooth tethering, etc, etc. They also have the best support system of any custom ROM, the biggest team working on them, and get updates the most. CM had the first and best ROMS for Eclair, FroYo and they will be first with Gingerbread too.
I see. I realize they are very big, but there are other ROMs as well. I figured those are done by individuals rather than a team like Cyanogen. So like indie projects.

The ROM doesn't determine the speed or performance of the phone, does it? Couldn't I just use 6.0 RC2 with a 1.25 kernel and still get the same results across the board with other ROMs?
 

Casey

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I see. I realize they are very big, but there are other ROMs as well. I figured those are done by individuals rather than a team like Cyanogen. So like indie projects.

The ROM doesn't determine the speed or performance of the phone, does it? Couldn't I just use 6.0 RC2 with a 1.25 kernel and still get the same results across the board with other ROMs?
Cyanogen started out solo, but his ROMs were so good that other ROM makers decided it was pointless to try and compete, so they joined up with him. Also, a great deal of other ROMs now are still based off the CM source.

The ROM certainly does affect speed and performance. It's all about optimizing the code to get the best performance out of the device.
 

S O F I

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So, what's the consensus on the Samsung Galaxy S? I noticed both AT&T and T-Mobile have it. It seems bulky with the huge screen, but surprisingly light. It feels weird in that sense because you'd expect it to be heavier for how big it is. I played with it at AT&T and noticed that they pretty much completely copied Apple's app style with the multiple screens and square-shaped apps.
 

THEV1LL4N

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^^ that's down to samsung's touchwiz. when you say multiple screens, do you mean the app menu or the home screen also? im assuming you mean just the menu to navigate and browse through the different applications.

anyway, smacky. what does ROM Manager do? does it allow you to have ROMs from different developers on one device allowing you to dual boot different ones on startup?
 

masta247

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So, what's the consensus on the Samsung Galaxy S? I noticed both AT&T and T-Mobile have it. It seems bulky with the huge screen, but surprisingly light. It feels weird in that sense because you'd expect it to be heavier for how big it is. I played with it at AT&T and noticed that they pretty much completely copied Apple's app style with the multiple screens and square-shaped apps.
If you mean the home screen then it's like that since the first Android probably, no? If it comes to the app screen then TouchWiz has been looking like that since forever. The phone is not bulky. It's quite wide and all because of its screen but it's slim.
 

THEV1LL4N

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Android surges past iPhone in smartphone sales • The Register

Android surges past iPhone in smartphone sales - RIM and Windows Mobile continue to slide

Sales of Android-based smartphones are surging, tearing chunks of market share out of Apple, RIM, and Windows Mobile's hides.

According to a report released Monday by the analysts at The Nielsen Company, although RIM and Apple still hold their number one and two positions as the top two suppliers of smartphones in the US, Android phones are catching up — fast.

According to Nielsen's figures, among new subscribers in the past six months, those picking up Android phones inched past iPhone buyers in the second quarter of this year, garnering a 27 per cent market share to the iPhone's 23 per cent.



In addition, a separate report by the market watchers at Canalys pegs Android-phone growth at a whopping 886 per cent from the second quarter of 2009 to the same quarter this year.

Both info-nuggets, however, carry hefty caveats. The iPhone 4 shipped on June 24, right before the quarter ended. Its 1.7 million first-weekend sales are presumably included among the Nielsen numbers, but sales of the Jobsian handheld — antennagate or no antennagate — have been strong during the ensuing weeks. A true iPhone v. Android analysis must wait until the iPhone 4 has a full quarter in the sun.

The Canalys number, also, is to be taken with an exceptionally large helping of caution, seeing as how an 886 per cent growth from a tiny number — Android sales in the second quarter of 2009 — is not a realistic metric. The Android-based Motorola Droid, for example, didn't see the light of day until November of that year.

Even with those cautions in mind, however, the growth of Android is not to be taken lightly if you happen to occupy a corner office in Cupertino, California, or Waterloo, Ontario. Nielsen's numbers, for example, put RIM's six-month market share at 45 per cent in the second quarter of 2009, but by the same period this year it has slid to 33 per cent.



Even more worrisome to those enterprising Canadians is RIM's comparatively poor performance when Nielsen asked current owners of Android, iPhone, and BlackBerry phones which type of phone they'd consider for their next purchase. Only 42 per cent of BlackBerry owners said they'd stick with their current brand, while 71 per cent of Android owners and a full 89 per cent of iPhone owners planned to remain loyal to their respective OSes.

And speaking of corner offices, there can't be many smiles in Redmond, Washington, either. Windows Mobile held a 27 per cent US-smartphone market share in the second quarter of 2009, according to Nielsen, but that number had shrunk to 15 per cent by the second quarter of this year.

With the rise of Android and the continuing popularity of the iPhone, BlackBerry OS 6.0 and Windows Phone 7 will have their work cut out for them. ®
 

S O F I

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^Yeah, I meant the apps. It's not that slim, but alright maybe bulky was too strong of a word. Either way, I don't think I want to carry it around in my pocket.
 

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