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[dilla]

Yes, this was the latest thing to come on my news reader.

Sprint’s Dan Hesse: We’re Considering a T-Mobile Merger, LTE for the Future | Android Phone Fans

Explain why Sprint was the only one with 4G and VZW with LTE, yet now a merger between Sprint and T-Mo would yield a switch to LTE? So is he saying it's a failure, 4G? I read that the shortages of the EVO have hindered 4G's adoption. Well, duh. But switching so quickly/early? What about the fucksies that bought an EVO with 4G as the 'bait?"

EDIT:: I meant WiMax, not 4G in general. WiMax vs. LTE.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Casey,

How did you (I'm assuming you have) solve the problem of your G1 not having enough memory for all the apps you want? I'm assuming you will say something about a root allowing you to move your apps from the phone's memory to the SD but I hope this isn't true b/c I don't know that I can successfully root my phone :\

EDIT:

Have you heard anything else about the HTC Vision?

 

[dilla]

Casey,

How did you (I'm assuming you have) solve the problem of your G1 not having enough memory for all the apps you want? I'm assuming you will say something about a root allowing you to move your apps from the phone's memory to the SD but I hope this isn't true b/c I don't know that I can successfully root my phone :\

EDIT:

Have you heard anything else about the HTC Vision?

Root isn't that hard. I have never done it but that's because I can't due to software version number. But everyone that was freaking out about messing root up ended up kicking themselves for not doing it earlier and said that it was much easier than it looked. So do it.

Otherwise, no, how do you put apps in spaces that don't exist? You'll need to delete some apps. If you root, you'll be able to delete apps that normally aren't allowed to be deleted, installed by HTC or T-Mobile.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Root isn't that hard. I have never done it but that's because I can't due to software version number. But everyone that was freaking out about messing root up ended up kicking themselves for not doing it earlier and said that it was much easier than it looked. So do it.

Otherwise, no, how do you put apps in spaces that don't exist? You'll need to delete some apps. If you root, you'll be able to delete apps that normally aren't allowed to be deleted, installed by HTC or T-Mobile.

I'm not worried about messing it up as much as I"m worried about voiding my warranty and not being able to get a replacement phone if something else goes wrong. This is my 3rd phone (last two had random issues not my fault. One couldn't connect to the towers near me and the other.. the screen just stopped working, along with the backlight.) And if something like this happens again.. if my phone has been rooted, then I need to buy a new phone which I don't want to do. Or can I undo the root?

 

[Casey]

Casey,

How did you (I'm assuming you have) solve the problem of your G1 not having enough memory for all the apps you want? I'm assuming you will say something about a root allowing you to move your apps from the phone's memory to the SD but I hope this isn't true b/c I don't know that I can successfully root my phone :\

EDIT:

Have you heard anything else about the HTC Vision?

Yeah, you can root. You have a G1 right? It's easy as fuck.

No further news on the Vision as of yet.

 

[dilla]

+1 on being able to unroot. They will never be able to find out that you rooted.

Actually, it turns out that there is a method to root my Eris, but it seems too complicated (legitimate complaint because I'm using 'unofficial' software to begin with. Still trying for that Droid but this damn rumor of an update that will 'fix' te issue is preventing me from getting anywhere with tech support since they use that rumor as an argument.

 

[dilla]

Are root methods the same for all devices? I got the SDK but now they're saying something about ADB. And I'm not familiar with OSX and Terminal and 'opening terminal in the tools directory" like I was instructed to.

 

[dilla]

I have come to the conclusion that I am too stupid for root and vow to never root my Eris for as long as I have it.

 

[dilla]

I'm such a melodramatic whiny cunt bitch. Took a few shots and all of a sudden everything was working again.

EDIT:: Wow....Runniy Kaos' FroYoEris ROM. Pretty nice.

 

[Casey]

/\ You finally got root. Awesome! Overclock your processor. Makes a big difference.

 

[Tha_Wood]

whats root. can i get now i am an android

 

[dilla]

You have the Galaxy, right? I should definitely have been rooted by now seeing as how big of a name the phone has. I would recommend checking out "XDA" forums for your device and getting the method and the necessary files from there.


As far as overclocking, it looks very complicated as far as finding the "sweet spot" for your phone without actually getting it into a boot cycle for going way overboard. I think most are running it at 767 or something like that. I dunno.

Again, I'm running the Kaos FroYo ROM but I also have a CyanogenELB2 ROM. Which is the best?

 

[dilla]

NVM. Talking to you on GTalk.

 

[Tha_Wood]

lol but what is root

 

[Pittsey]

What are the benefits to me by rooting? I jailbroke my iPhone, but Apple placed a lot of restrictions on that phone. The android based phones dpn't have these. So what can I do with Root? And should I back-up my phone first?





Rooting the i9000 - http://forum.samdroid.net/f49/dev-kernel-i9000-root-lk9-01-beta9-22-06-2010-a-1319/

 

[THEV1LL4N]

rooting the phone gives you root access to the main phone directory and superuser permissions to make certain commands and do more things with the phone, i.e. use more apps, tools and utilities increasing overall functionality.

it also allows you to install custom ROMs if there are any for the corresponding devices.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

contrary to what i posted earlier about how installing custom roms on the new motorola phones can brick them:

MOTOROLA: EFUSE DOES PREVENT UNOFFICIAL ROMS BUT WON’T BRICK YOUR PHONE

Motorola has denied the eFuse technology used in its Android smartphones will leave customers handsets “bricked” if they attempt to install unofficial ROMs, though the company concedes that the system will indeed be non-functional with anything other than Motorola firmware. ”If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software” Motorola explains, “it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed.”


“Motorola’s primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Droid X and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader. In reference specifically to eFuse, the technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices via MOTODEV at http://developer.motorola.com.”


It seems the real difference between the rumors earlier in the week and the truth about eFuse – which is found in the DROID X, DROID 2 and other Motorola Android devices – is that users themselves will be able to “restore” their handsets rather than needing to send them off to Motorola to be reflashed. That’s certainly the implication from the official statement. However, the end result is the same: if you want an Android device that’s open to the various third-party ROMs available, Motorola probably shouldn’t be your first port of call.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

theres one problem i have with root and Apps2SD. It has allowed me to have so many apps on my phone that the cache and data cause the phone notification to say "Low space on phone"... at least that might be one reason.

It works sluggishly even after overclocking, task/process killing, running cyanogen 5.0.7 stable. im just waiting for the stable CM6 release. i dont understand how some apps like facebook, maps etc consume a total of 6MB+.

 

[Casey]

/\ You need to clean your caches. CM5.0.8 and CM6 have been fast as fuck to me. Also go into recovery menu and wipe the dalvik cache.

Root is basically superuser access that allows you to do things like run custom ROMs (modified versions of the OS made by the developer community with many cool extra features), tethering (using your phones data connection as a hotspot), overclocking your processor and much more.

It was basically necessary for early Android phones like the G1, HTC Magic, HTC Hero, etc, because they don't have a great deal of internal memory (with root you can partition your SD card and move the apps to it), and the stock clock speed of the processors wasn't enough to run the latest versions of the OS smoothly.

I personally would go ahead and root any Android phone I own, but it's not as necessary with the newer phones like the Galaxy S since they have a great deal of internal memory and much faster processors.

 

[dilla]

/\ You need to clean your caches. CM5.0.8 and CM6 have been fast as fuck to me. Also go into recovery menu and wipe the dalvik cache.

Root is basically superuser access that allows you to do things like run custom ROMs (modified versions of the OS made by the developer community with many cool extra features), tethering (using your phones data connection as a hotspot), overclocking your processor and much more.

It was basically necessary for early Android phones like the G1, HTC Magic, HTC Hero, etc, because they don't have a great deal of internal memory (with root you can partition your SD card and move the apps to it), and the stock clock speed of the processors wasn't enough to run the latest versions of the OS smoothly.

I personally would go ahead and root any Android phone I own, but it's not as necessary with the newer phones like the Galaxy S since they have a great deal of internal memory and much faster processors.

Right, but for those that want the latest and greatest and betas and all, rooting helps them get the custom ROMs for 2.2 and Gingerbread (eventually) without having to sit there and wonder if their carrier will ever have it for their phones. I guess it won't be an issue for 3.0 for the Galaxy but after that, they won't have to wonder if they'll ever be OTAd ever again. Cyanogen will have them covered.