The Ronaldo Thread

[Rahim]

What shoes Ronaldo wear?
friend of mine wants to buy soccer shoes Ronaldo wears but i dont know which Ronaldo he talkin bout. lol.

i cant really ask him which one he talkin bout cause i dont have access with him, his moms is tellin me he needs them shoes.

anyway, if anybody knows what shoes both Ronaldo wear? brazilian and purtuguees.

was this "friend" you?

Ronaldo-Highly unlikely. He has just suffered another very serious knee injury. He wasnt fit before his injury so its unlikely that he will be fit after it. He will be 34 at the next World Cup. Its unlikely that Dunga will take a big risk by picking an ageing, injury prone, unfit striker (abeit a great one) for his 2010 World Cup squad. Ronaldo could easily pick up another just before the tournament thus ruling him out and leaving Brazil short a player for the tournament which amy leave them short should they reach the latter stages of the tournament.

Cafu- See what i posted above. absolutely zero chance.

Adriano- I reckon Mourinho will get Adriano back playing the way he did before all his problems. He is a top striker and should be playing at the 2010 World Cup provided he has put his personal problems behind him and is fully fit.

Roberto Carlos-Little chance. He will be 37 at the time of 2010 World Cup. I dont think he has played for Brazil since the 2006 World Cup. Not the same player he was as he is pushing on now. Then again Brazil seem to have a problem at left back. I saw them play against Chile and the left back they had in that game, Kleber didnt impress me. Marcelo of Real Madrid and Maxwell of Internazionale are other options. There is little chance of Carlos being recalled.

Rivaldo-lol. Not even a 0% chance. hmmm when was the last time a Kazakhstan based player got called into the Brazil squad lol. Rivaldo was a great player but his career started to fade out after he moved to AC Milan. Showed what he can do in the greek league but then again thats not the highest level of football.

Dida- Now why would they want this useless keeper in their squad. all he was ever good for was stopping penalties. ok he had some decent seasons for Milan but he had some bad ones too. Doni and Julio Cesar are far better keepers.

Ze Roberto- again little chance. will be about 36 or 37 when the next World Cup is on. He performed well at the 2006 World Cup in a poor Brazil team but he will be too old and Brazil have other options in midfield now.

Emerson-not a hope in hell. He is finished and has been since he left Juventus. i always thought he was over-rated anyway. only a squad player at AC Milan now.


Nearly all these players you mention are in the twilight of their careers. I dont get why you would to see them at the next World Cup. If Brazil pick some of them then they wouldnt have achance of winning the World Cup. They were top players when they younger and at their peak. You dont pick players based on past reputations.

btw, i forgot about Maicon. He is Brazil's first choice right back not Alves.

I don't agree, but fair enough Bobby Sands.

I would like to think though that players are chosen (somewhat) based on their past reputation. If not, what would that mean for Pele? What would that mean for past star-players? I'm not saying that a player should be evaluated just based on past reputation, but I am saying that it is an important factor.

For example:

Manchster City wouldn't have even thought of signing Ronaldo (even though they didn't) if he didn't have the reputation that he does today. Sure he is out of shape right now, but he still has the courage, and the will and the motivation to get back in shape. Just read his statement 4 hours ago that was reported (in this thread)

anyway as much as I would like to see all of this happening (my way), it's only a prediction, backed up by faith - especially in Ronaldo.

 

[bacho2]

No, that was my friend.

What is your point here?

 

[Rahim]

No, that was my friend.

What is your point here?

that you are trying to get Ronaldo into bed, just so you can steel his shoes.

I think you i saw you...."were you present there in your suit and a tie with nerd glasses taking down every word he was saying?" lol

 

[bacho2]

Dude you're boring me to death with your silly joke.

 

[Flipmo]

Understand flipmo? Do not close this thread!

lol

Rofl.

I'll merge this shit later into the Football Thread. Ive already killed my drunken buzz enough with that novel like post in the other thread. lol. Gonna enjoy the rest of it.

PS: Aguero is the shit.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Brazil are the one country that rarely if ever pick aging superstars based on past glory and reputation. So you are telling me that Brazil should pick aging and in some cases retired players because they were good in the past? lol. so they could include Pele and Zico in the 2010 squad too lol.

And i dont understand your obsession with Brazil. I watched them in 3 games recently and i was far from impressed by them. The football they played wasnt all that. im much more excited by Argentina. I hope they win the 2010 World Cup if Ireland doesnt

 

[bacho2]

Come on man, you made me spill my coffee on the table.

I wouldn't mind Argentina though. They're playing great football right now. I saw them in Olympics and they were great.

 

[bacho2]

wtf? why mod closed the football discussion thread? somebody tell mod to open that thread.

 

[Duke]

Rahim, man...it's nice to see you're getting into football, but wtf? You have no clue whatsoever. Picking players based on past glory and reputation? So like Bobby said, how about Zico and Pele? Should my Dutch side get Cruyff and Neeskens out of the mothballs? Should Ajax sign Ruud Krol on left back? Hell, get v. Basten out of his coach's suit and put him in, 'cos he used to be good, right? Bergkamp to play in South Africa in 2010? Sure, he retired but what does that mean these days, eh?

Get the fuck out of here, dude. I don't understand your fascination with Brazil and Ronaldo anyway. It reeks of fanboyism.

"Manchster City wouldn't have even thought of signing Ronaldo (even though they didn't) if he didn't have the reputation that he does today. Sure he is out of shape right now, but he still has the courage, and the will and the motivation to get back in shape. Just read his statement 4 hours ago that was reported (in this thread)"

City has been bought by a man that has more money than brain cells. Ronaldo used to be, and to some extent still is, a great name in football. But that's all he is right now. A name. His body is falling apart, he hasn't played full seasons for years now, there's no match rhythm whatsoever and to top it off he keeps naggling with his knee. Mr rich ass Sheikh wanted to sign him cos it'd look good on the team roster. Obviously, mr. rich ass Sheikh hasn't got the first clue about football otherwise he wouldn't have spent Uganda's GDP on Robinho. This man cares for big names and big glory. Too bad he doesn't realize that signing a few big names (not to mention an older player that hasn't performed consistently for years) won't win you the Champions League overnight.

 

[Rahim]

Rahim, man...it's nice to see you're getting into football, but wtf? You have no clue whatsoever. Picking players based on past glory and reputation? So like Bobby said, how about Zico and Pele? Should my Dutch side get Cruyff and Neeskens out of the mothballs? Should Ajax sign Ruud Krol on left back? Hell, get v. Basten out of his coach's suit and put him in, 'cos he used to be good, right? Bergkamp to play in South Africa in 2010? Sure, he retired but what does that mean these days, eh?

Get the fuck out of here, dude. I don't understand your fascination with Brazil and Ronaldo anyway. It reeks of fanboyism.



City has been bought by a man that has more money than brain cells. Ronaldo used to be, and to some extent still is, a great name in football. But that's all he is right now. A name. His body is falling apart, he hasn't played full seasons for years now, there's no match rhythm whatsoever and to top it off he keeps naggling with his knee. Mr rich ass Sheikh wanted to sign him cos it'd look good on the team roster. Obviously, mr. rich ass Sheikh hasn't got the first clue about football otherwise he wouldn't have spend Uganda's GDP on Robinho. This man cares for big names and big glory. Too bad he doesn't realize that signing a few big names (not to mention an older player that hasn't performed consistently for years) won't win you the Champions League overnight.

just because you don't agree with my opinion, i don't have a clue?

fanboyism? - look who's talking?

excuse me. for having an opinion of my own.

now obviously I'm not talking about bringing back the dead. but what i am saying is that a player with a good reputation is important. Think about all of the good factors that are attached to a player with a good reputation.

Ronaldo is a great example of this. Think about all of the titles he was awarded - because of his skill and ability he has titles and because of his titles he has a good rep. Sure, he isn't in the best shape right now but think about how much Ronaldo will be worth if he rose from the grave. When I say worth - I'm talking about what money can't buy...cuz everyone likes a hero..

So you are telling me that Brazil should pick aging and in some cases retired players because they were good in the past? lol. so they could include Pele and Zico in the 2010 squad too lol.

I'm not talking about raising the dead from their graves, but what I am saying is that players that have an exceptional age (40 or under) and are fit to play who also have a good reputation behind them should be called upon. Several of the new players lack experience and they just don't have what it takes YET to fill the shoes of the older players.

As for the reputation of the Brazil team as a whole, the new players just don't live up to PAST REPUTATIONS. I am sure we can both agree that this is Brazil's worst line-up of players in history.

And i dont understand your obsession with Brazil. I watched them in 3 games recently and i was far from impressed by them.

You and me both. I am disappointed with how bad they are playing, but I look at them for the team they CAN BE and the team that they are capable of being because they do have potential. Brazil won the World Cup 5 times, and for them to play like this is pathetic.

and by the way...my "obsession" with brazil is like this....in life i look for the best (to my standards and based on facts obviously and also to my liking). i want the best of everything and i want to look up to the best of the best and i guess you could say i look up to the people that believe they are the best and have faith in themselves or have proven themselves to be the best.


Ronaldo and the Brazilian soccer team is a good example.

of course there's a long story behind it, but to sum it all up...i like the best of the best. my explanation was vaguely said but it still is what it is...to me

 

[Duke]

An opinion? This has nothing to do with an opinion. You listed a bunch of fossils with a chance percentage of them featuring in the 2010 World Cup. That's not an opinion, that's professional nonsense.


And who gives a fuck about reputation?! He can have all the titles in the world and have been the best player by miles the last 10 years, the FACT is that the man struggles with his health, has no match rhythm and is almost 32. He won't perform. Period. Full stop. Done deal. You can have all the rep in the world but he's not being paid to show off his weird teeth on camera, is he now? As a professional football player, and more specifically a striker, you're paid to put the ball in the net. He can't do that anymore. Ergo, he's useless as a football player. You're looking at him like he's a Public Relations opportunity. Wtf?


And I'd like to know how I'm a fanboy. You're a Canadian that's waxing lyrical over Brazil and players who were "da shit" 6 years ago. I'm Dutch, I don't support any foreign teams and you probably have never even heard of FC Twente, the club for which I would get into a riot. So don't call me a fucking fanboy ever again.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^you are an FC Twente fanboy

you only support them because they win so much.

 

[Duke]

I have lived in Enschede for 8 years from my 7th to my 13th, played football there myself so there's no chance in hell i'm a fanboy. They don't even win that much anyway, so fuck off

A fanboy is someone supporting a team that's not local simply because they're big or win a lot. If you live in New York, never even been to manchester, and you're a United fan, you're a dirty dirty fanboy. Ilu, however, can't be a fanboy because he IS from Manchester. Hence. If you're a Canadian and you stroke your meat over Brazil's squad pictures, you're a fanboy. Period.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^only messing lol. An FC Twente fan couldnt possibly be a fanboy. its only right that you support your home team.

I think Illu is from Northampton not Manchester.I see what you are saying but does the fact that i support Liverpool when i am from Ireland make me a fanboy? There arent any local football teams where i play. The closest team to me play in the second tier of Irish league football and i actually know one or two of their players. I go to watch Liverpool when i can. have been at Anfield a few times. I hate all these dickriders from Asia who ride Man Utd and C ROnaldo's nuts. they make me sick. i remember i was at a Man City game last season. This Chinese dude was having his picture taken in front of the City of Manchester stadium with a Man Utd hat on. i reckon he thought he was at old trafford. idiots like that shouldnt be at football games.

 

[Duke]

Yeah I agree there's a finer line between true fanboyism and being "related" to a club in one way or the other. It's perfectly possible to be a 'Pool fan from early on if it so pans out. It still makes you a fanboy, but purely on a technical level. The fanboy percentage is like 1%. And yeah lol @ those Asian fanboys. They wouldn't even know what offside is, yet they think CR is God himself.
And what I also regard as pure fanboyism is foregoing your local team(s) in favour of a big(ger) club somewhere else. Let's say a Birmingham fan becoming a Utd supporter because "the local team sucks anyway".

In your case there's indeed very little choice, lol. How did you become a Liverpool man in the first place?

 

[Rahim]

An opinion? This has nothing to do with an opinion. You listed a bunch of fossils with a chance percentage of them featuring in the 2010 World Cup. That's not an opinion, that's professional nonsense.


And who gives a fuck about reputation?! He can have all the titles in the world and have been the best player by miles the last 10 years, the FACT is that the man struggles with his health, has no match rhythm and is almost 32. He won't perform. Period. Full stop. Done deal. You can have all the rep in the world but he's not being paid to show off his weird teeth on camera, is he now? As a professional football player, and more specifically a striker, you're paid to put the ball in the net. He can't do that anymore. Ergo, he's useless as a football player. You're looking at him like he's a Public Relations opportunity. Wtf?


And I'd like to know how I'm a fanboy. You're a Canadian that's waxing lyrical over Brazil and players who were "da shit" 6 years ago. I'm Dutch, I don't support any foreign teams and you probably have never even heard of FC Twente, the club for which I would get into a riot. So don't call me a fucking fanboy ever again.

This acctually has a lot to do with opinions. It is your opinion that he can't perform. It is YOUR opinion that he can't put the ball in the net. It is however a fact that he can still perform, very well indeed, he can still score goals even better then most players that are playing nationally. Yes, even with his "OVERWEIGHT BELLY" he can score goals. that is a FACT.

You just can't throw away everything he did before because he doesn't perform as well as he used to. What does that mean? It means that though he is not performing the way he used to, he can still perform well enough, and better than any of the new players on the Brazil squad. he wasn't the three time player of the year for nothing. and YES, i said "reputation" as it still comes into play here.


if u really want to know how you are a fanboy:

first of all, you asking me whether you are a fanboy makes me sense that you aren't too confident about yourself.

second of all, you seem to know a lot about brazil - as seen from your past postings - that may not prove that you are diagnosed with a large amount of fanboyism, but you seem to have all of the symptoms (as you described them).

 

[Flipmo]

lmao, I love it when Duke flips out.

I have to step out now, so i'll post a longer opinion later. In an hour or so we're taking on Dinamo Zagreb (Derby time) and a buddy of mine was able to get a feed on his satellite. Hopefully we can pull a draw and close down the 6 point gap.

:thumb:

 

[bacho2]

I'm not talking about raising the dead from their graves,

Pele and Zico are still alive dude.

You can have all the rep in the world but he's not being paid to show off his weird teeth on camera, is he now?

Dude, Ruud probably has the biggest and longest jaw that I ever seen in an athlete. Really. Come on now.

A fanboy is someone supporting a team that's not local simply because they're big or win a lot. If you live in New York, never even been to manchester, and you're a United fan, you're a dirty dirty fanboy. Ilu, however, can't be a fanboy because he IS from Manchester. Hence. If you're a Canadian and you stroke your meat over Brazil's squad pictures, you're a fanboy. Period.

Fanboy (sometimes spelled fanboi) is a term used to describe an individual who is devoted to a single subject in an emotional or fanatical manner, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession.

I don't see anywhere in these lines that says you have to be supporting foreign team to be a fanboy.

So if we go by this definition, we are all fanboys (football fans) because we all support and are obsessed with the teams we like. You don't get a special treatment. That includes yourself as well Dutchman.

 

[Rahim]

Pele and Zico are still alive dude.

lol i was using a metaphor to explain...i know they are alive..well i knew pele was alive atleast..

 

[Bobby Sands]

Yeah I agree there's a finer line between true fanboyism and being "related" to a club in one way or the other. It's perfectly possible to be a 'Pool fan from early on if it so pans out. It still makes you a fanboy, but purely on a technical level. The fanboy percentage is like 1%. And yeah lol @ those Asian fanboys. They wouldn't even know what offside is, yet they think CR is God himself.
And what I also regard as pure fanboyism is foregoing your local team(s) in favour of a big(ger) club somewhere else. Let's say a Birmingham fan becoming a Utd supporter because "the local team sucks anyway".

In your case there's indeed very little choice, lol. How did you become a Liverpool man in the first place?

I just decided it one day when i was about 9 or 10. Before that i didnt really support anyone but i liked Aston Villa because of Dalian Atkinson(he was class) and their Irish players. But then i watched Liverpool play a few times on tv and i liked alot of their players and the whole atmosphere in Anfield. .This was around the time when Robbie Fowler was emerging. They had Redkanpp, McManaman, Rush etc. So i was hardly glory hunting because this wasnt a great period for Liverpool. They played nice football but won fuck all in the 90's.I guess i fell in love with the club.