Fuck Fox News, fuck them fuck them fuck them

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#1
Seriously, somebody should sue, I cant believe a "news" outlet can get away with bullshit like this.

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Duke

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Staff member
#2
European news is so much more civilized :D. (Ehrm, minus the Italians, and everything east of Germany)

Yet also less entertaining, heh.

Then again, do we want news to entertain? :rolleyes:
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#4
so the arguement that is being made is that this is horrible because baby's mama is "chiefly in African-American usage" that refers to, "The mother of a man's child, who is not his wife nor (in most cases) his current or exclusive partner."


but here we have michelle obama introducing her "baby's daddy"

oh, but that isn't the same or is different, right? :rolleyes:

i can't believe anyone would actually get mad about this. it's things like that gets peoples attention on non-important issues in presidential races. it's a headline tag, it served it's purpose.

sue? LOL for what?

obamabots are silly
 

Farzin

Well-Known Member
#5
This is what happens when a presidential race takes way too fucking long.

People are just being stupid and nip picking at every little thing they can find because they have discussed every other topic and policy possible.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#6
So out of all of the other things she called her husband on that youtube clip, her husband, her honey, her man, Barack Obama, they chose to take the most ethnic thing she said and put it on her.

Conservebots are pathetic.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#7
She is allowed to call her husband what she wants, and vice versa, Fox is not. They deliberately use it to either make fun of his ethnicity using a stereotype or just make him look bad, just like they did with the so called "terrorist fist." Come on now, if this was the first Fox mishap Id say it was an accident, but this is a long string of events.

Michelle Obama can call her husband "my nigga" if she wants to, that does not give Fox News the right to then refer to her as Obama's Nigga.

And there is a huge difference in saying "My husband, my honey, my man, my baby's daddy" and calling Michelle Obama's Baby Mama when we all know full well that "baby mama" as in "she's my baby mama" has a totally different meaning to "my husband, my honey, my man, my baby's daddy."

It is obvious they meant it in a derogatory term because they didnt refer to her as his baby's mama, which I could accept meant baby's mother; the mother of his baby. They deliberately called her his baby mama and their use of the poor grammar associated with that particular slang term proves that they were going for the ebonic meaning of baby mama.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#8
so the arguement that is being made is that this is horrible because baby's mama is "chiefly in African-American usage" that refers to, "The mother of a man's child, who is not his wife nor (in most cases) his current or exclusive partner."


but here we have michelle obama introducing her "baby's daddy"

oh, but that isn't the same or is different, right? :rolleyes:

i can't believe anyone would actually get mad about this. it's things like that gets peoples attention on non-important issues in presidential races. it's a headline tag, it served it's purpose.

sue? LOL for what?

obamabots are silly
You are a conservebot, seriously, because the video addressed the argument by other conservatives that you just uttered.

And that is, self-deprecating humor is fine, but outright racism isn't.
 

The.Menace

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Staff member
#9
Fuck Fox News, fuck them fuck them fuck them
I have nothing more 2 add. Of course someone, Puff, had 2 come in and defend foxnews but the truth is they are retarted and everybody that watches fox news is too.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#10
She is allowed to call her husband what she wants, and vice versa, Fox is not. They deliberately use it to either make fun of his ethnicity using a stereotype or just make him look bad, just like they did with the so called "terrorist fist." Come on now, if this was the first Fox mishap Id say it was an accident, but this is a long string of events.
is there some rule now that they aren't allow to say what they want? to say it was deliberate is an opinion. you can't prove it was deliberate. one anchor woman did make the terrorist fist comment, but she did apologize.

and the headline was indicating that liberals want people to to stop attacking obama's baby mama. as to say that liberals were the ones saying it

Michelle Obama can call her husband "my nigga" if she wants to, that does not give Fox News the right to then refer to her as Obama's Nigga.
now you are just being asinine

And there is a huge difference in saying "My husband, my honey, my man, my baby's daddy" and calling Michelle Obama's Baby Mama when we all know full well that "baby mama" as in "she's my baby mama" has a totally different meaning to "my husband, my honey, my man, my baby's daddy."
the obamas have shown throughout this race that they are more intune with modern popular culture. michelle obama sayings "my baby's daddy" was just another example.

baby's daddy, baby's mama, baby daddy, and baby mama (or whatebver i'm not going to argue semantics of the spelling urban of slang) have been used in pop culutre in the same context. to say that one has a different meaning over the other can be true but it can also go either way.


It is obvious they meant it in a derogatory term because they didnt refer to her as his baby's mama, which I could accept meant baby's mother; the mother of his baby. They deliberately called her his baby mama and their use of the poor grammar associated with that particular slang term proves that they were going for the ebonic meaning of baby mama.
i'm not even going to argue over semantics

You are a conservebot, seriously, because the video addressed the argument by other conservatives that you just uttered.

And that is, self-deprecating humor is fine, but outright racism isn't.
lol conservebots? you and jokerman making up words now because you don't like the label obamabots?

the person who posted the video made a weak arguement.

this isn't racism.

this is the problem with todays so called "liberals". everytime they don't agree with something they scream racism, bigot, homophobe, or sexist
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#11
and the headline was indicating that liberals want people to to stop attacking obama's baby mama. as to say that liberals were the ones saying it
Which is worse, since Fox couldn't take credit for that shit and tried to pass it off as something liberals said. Proof that they knew they were wrong.
 
#12
a tasteless act at damaging their character. and the major news network should be more professional and unbias. i guarantee this is the only time Fox news decided to get "hip" with it all of sudden in their long time of running news. shit was just cheap.

but that's the cost of Freedom Of Speech.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#13
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and the headline was indicating that liberals want people to to stop attacking obama's baby mama. as to say that liberals were the ones saying it
Yeah you are right which makes it even worse, Fox News tried to pass it off as a quote, as if the Liberals had referred to her as his baby mama, they havent. It wasnt a quote. Fox News made it up, which proves they had a reason to do so.

"Baby's daddy" is not a derogatory term, baby mama is. If you cant see the difference between saying "he is my baby's daddy" and calling a female a "baby mama" then wow. If I referred to a girl as my "baby mama" it would be totally different and mean something totally different than if she was "my baby's mama" as in "she is my baby's mama."

My wife is my baby's mama. My baby mama is the bitch I knocked up by accident and now I cant get her out of my hair. The two are totally different.

The bottom line is Fox News made up a so called quote that happened to be a derogatory term and racial stereotype and applied it to Michelle Obama and that is wrong.
 

The.Menace

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Staff member
#14
baby's daddy, baby's mama, baby daddy, and baby mama (or whatebver i'm not going to argue semantics of the spelling urban of slang) have been used in pop culutre in the same context.
a serious news paper or tv show wouldn't use a slang word or put it in a title like that. A serious network scores with content, the rest is called yellow press.... or shitty tv, in that case.
 
#16
typical puff, so quick to jump to fox news' defense in order to take some shots at Obama. you say maybe this wasn't deliberate, that maybe it was true that some producer "used bad judgment" as Fox said. yeah, maybe i'd believe that if they didn't do this type of shit on an almost daily basis. as for the terrorist fist bump thing, do you really think that if people hadn't complained, that anchor would have been fired? hell no, they would have promoted her for her brilliant smear tactics, since that's what Fox News has always seemed to excel at.

this is what always makes me laugh about Fox News: they are the most blatantly biased news network out there. now don't get me wrong, i don't believe there is a real unbiased news source at all, but at least most of the other networks try to pretend they are unbiased. Fox doesn't even bother, they almost revel in their hatred and disdain of anything liberal, and have been practically coming in their pants at the opportunity to knock Obama down a few pegs. but then they never stand up for their beliefs. they make ridiculous comments and put shit out there like this, but when someone calls them on it, they backtrack. i mean, if they are going to be as up front and as obvious about their biases as they are, the least they could do is fight for their beliefs and convictions, but they don't, which tells me even they know what they do is wrong. and yet they still continue to do it, and always backtrack when someone calls them on it. at least have some backbone guys and fight for what you believe in, even if the rest of the country doesn't buy your crap.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#17
Yeah you are right which makes it even worse, Fox News tried to pass it off as a quote, as if the Liberals had referred to her as his baby mama, they havent. It wasnt a quote. Fox News made it up, which proves they had a reason to do so.

"Baby's daddy" is not a derogatory term, baby mama is. If you cant see the difference between saying "he is my baby's daddy" and calling a female a "baby mama" then wow. If I referred to a girl as my "baby mama" it would be totally different and mean something totally different than if she was "my baby's mama" as in "she is my baby's mama."

My wife is my baby's mama. My baby mama is the bitch I knocked up by accident and now I cant get her out of my hair. The two are totally different.

The bottom line is Fox News made up a so called quote that happened to be a derogatory term and racial stereotype and applied it to Michelle Obama and that is wrong.
that doesn't prove they made it up. even in the video you posted the ass clown oberman even says that michelle malkin says the term was being used in posting on blogs by liberals. now if that was the topic of discussion (i dont' know i rarely watch network news and didn't watch this particular segment and the video posted is only showing the side of msnbc constant attack on another network that shits on them in the ratings department. not to mention that oberman has been proven time and time again to distort facts) or point being made by the talking head had to do liberal bloggers calling for attacks to stop on obama's baby mama then wouldn't that headline fit into the context of discussion? oberman says it is not true and that no such posting took place but what proof does he offer other than his word? this is a man is constantly is proven to distort facts and even gets called out by well known anchors such as tom brokaw.

i didn't say i can't see the difference between the two words. what i did say was that the two have been used in the same context in popular culture and been used to have the same meaning.

i really don't see the point in calling a network racists (not saying you did) or getting mad at a network because some producer and/or graphics person couldn't come up with anything better.

a serious news paper or tv show wouldn't use a slang word or put it in a title like that. A serious network scores with content, the rest is called yellow press.... or shitty tv, in that case.

i agree, a serious new organization wouldn't need to use slang. but every major news organization, print or tv, has at some point in time in its history. it isn't anything new. especially when it comes to headlines.

you also described msnbc pretty well there.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#18
this is what always makes me laugh about Fox News: they are the most blatantly biased news network out there. now don't get me wrong, i don't believe there is a real unbiased news source at all, but at least most of the other networks try to pretend they are unbiased. Fox doesn't even bother, they almost revel in their hatred and disdain of anything liberal, and have been practically coming in their pants at the opportunity to knock Obama down a few pegs. but then they never stand up for their beliefs. they make ridiculous comments and put shit out there like this, but when someone calls them on it, they backtrack. i mean, if they are going to be as up front and as obvious about their biases as they are, the least they could do is fight for their beliefs and convictions, but they don't, which tells me even they know what they do is wrong. and yet they still continue to do it, and always backtrack when someone calls them on it. at least have some backbone guys and fight for what you believe in, even if the rest of the country doesn't buy your crap.
wether or not the network is blatantly biased is going to depend on a persons point of view. i honestly think msnbc is far more biased than fox news and msnbc proves it on a daily basis. atcually studies have been dones in recenty months examinig the election coverage by the news organizations. a harvard study, along with others, has said that fox has been the most balanced when it comes to covering the election
IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- Even Harvard Finds The Media Biased
http://www.cmpa.com/Studies/Election08/07_12_21_Election_Study.pdf

also, some of the top anchors and talking heads on fox news are liberal. gretta and shepard smith for example
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#19
It may not be outright racism, but surely everyone and their grandmother knows by now that Fox news isn't exactly a civilized and objective news outlet.

I mean, honestly, no news station is a 100% objective, but with Fox I sometimes get the impression it's made by frustrated teenagers from South Carolina.

It's just so not professional to do things like they do.

But American news outlets have turned into entertainment channels like 20 years ago. I don't really take any seriously anymore. Least of all Fox.
 
#20
that's the funny thing abut Fox. puff, you mentioned that MSNBC is getting killed in the ratings by Fox, and i wouldn't doubt that, but if you actually think most people watching Fox are watching it for their stellar news coverage, you would be sadly mistaken. people watch things like Fox News and shows like O'Reilly's crap-o-rama for the same reason some people will watch a really bad movie: they want to see if it can get any worse, what kind of ridiculous crap will one of our anchors say today? i'm starting to believe that is the reason they do these things: the shock value of it. they know people pay attention to controversy, so they stir it up as much as they can.
 

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