I'm on the same page as you masta247, although I don't think the internet was all that great. But like u said in SA and VC, there was something about those games that if you weren't on a mission, u actually could find other fun things to do. But with 4, it gets pretty boring. If i could trade in the graphics for some entertainment while not doing missions, I'd do it. All u can pretty much do is hang out with other friends but that got pretty repetitve. I remember not playing it for an entire week. I didn't have the desire to. The police arent even really that agressive, the system they use is just plain lame...oh well. The online is still cool.