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THEV1LL4N

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On multiple occasions I was so close to pre-ordering the Pixel 4 today but I have come to the conclusion that I will wait for the Pixel 4a - I am sure it will be a better purchase (i.e. cheaper, hopefully more efficient on the battery, less gimmicky, flagship Pixel 4 doesn't have unlimited photo storage anyway, hopefully a 3.5mm jack, should have same RAM and storage options). It would make sense for them to have the exact same cameras in the Pixel 4a, and then introduce the ultra-wide lens in the Pixel 5 as the upgrade.

One reason that I didn't go for the Pixel 3a or a Xiaomi phone was because I was hoping that the Pixel 4 would come with unlimited Google Photos storage at full resolution, but then I saw that it was only a limited time offer on the Pixel 3 anyway, not a lifetime entitlement for having a Pixel branded phone.

I will need a new phone for sure by the Summer, so I will finally make up my mind. It's crazy to think that my previous phone was a Nexus 4, which was released in November 2012. I then had an LG G4 from May 2015. I have switched to a Nexus 5X as an interim phone until I have my upgrade because the battery has degraded so much on my G4, and the replacement battery is faulty - whenever I take pictures or do anything that requires heavy processing (when using that battery in particular), it reboots.

The Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (6GB RAM, 128GB model) is £399 (and it comes with complimentary Mi True Wireless Earphones worth £79.99) - just saying.
 

masta247

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I'm surprised you guys actually find the Pixel 4 appealing. It's become a sort of a joke on the tech forums.

Also, Dbrand marketing at its finest, trying to sell Pixel 4 skins already at a discount:

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THEV1LL4N

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I just don't see why putting a better battery inside of the phone is so hard to do. Sometimes Google want to run before they can walk - they've not even established themselves properly and they want to try things like Soli. It's great, but such a gimmick that most people won't use - but why bother? They should be putting themselves head and shoulders above the rest with their AI and software whilst improving their hardware and polishing their offering instead of chopping and changing it.

The dealbreaker was the battery life for me - some reviewers are giving feedback about it not lasting a single day - the XL version was out of my budget, so it's the Pixel 4a for me - but I hope not to be made a mug out of with a inferior camera to the Pixel 4. They should keep the camera/photography experience the same.

This is what I believe the Pixel 4a's specs should be like:

- Same rear camera as Pixel 4 to offer the same photography experience (it's not like they went all out for the Pixel 4 hardware-wise).
- Same size display as the Pixel 3a/Pixel 3a XL or Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL
- Full HD option screen only
- 6GB RAM
- 64GB/128GB RAM on the Pixel 4a and Pixel 4a XL
- Not sure what Snapdragon CPU it will have, but the Pixel 3a saw an improvement in battery over the Pixel 3, so I don't see why the Pixel 4a can't be more efficient on the basis that it will have a less powerful chip.
- Fingerprint scanner on the back = battery life improvement
- No Soli = battery life improvement
- A high battery capacity size on the 4a, even larger on the 4a XL = battery life improvement
- 3.5mm audio jack
- Various other upgrades from Pixel 3a that don't just make it the same device but one year newer.

- Pixel 4 was cheaper than Pixel 3, so I think Pixel 4a should be cheaper than the Pixel 3a (to make it that much more attractive to consumers similar to what Xiaomi, Redmi, Honor etc are doing).

I think the Pixel 4 is a very good phone but with some annoying caveats.

Thoughts on the Pixel 4a?

I am considering waiting for the Pixel 4a, or waiting for the Pixel 5 leaks. I would prefer to have a new camera phone before September/October 2020 so I may be forced into going for the Pixel 4a (if getting a Google phone). Otherwise, Xiaomi Mi A4 it is probably going to be, or a discounted Galaxy Note 10 or Galaxy S11/Galaxy S11e depending on how I feel about those.
 

masta247

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Thoughts on the Pixel 4a?
At this point, I personally think I just fundamentally don't believe the line is any good.
I was a fan of their Nexus attempts and even if the hardware wasn't there, I was a fan of what they represented and the incredible value for money. I can't justify getting a Pixel just because I liked the company behind it and faster updates, yet these are the only points the Pixels score for me.

The hardware is behind literally all other major Android makers, including much cheaper devices. The design is outdated, and they clearly weren't able to fix what they got with HTC leftovers, or even move forward from there. They aren't even offering decent hardware OR software support - your updates come quicker, but you aren't getting them for long either despite getting a crazy overpriced phone straight from Google. At this point, Apple is offering far better support, far superior hardware and.. better value for money. I can't believe I'd ever say that, but I'd much rather get an iPhone than any of the Pixels released so far.

On the Android side of the fence, there are excellent Huawei phones (the P30 Pro being the Android to beat imho), excellent Xiaomi phones, the Galaxy S10, soon the S11. They're all much better than the Pixel 4. Heck, even Oppo makes better phones than Google does these days, and they're half the price.
 
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Jokerman

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I just got an iPhone 11 pro...until the next Galaxy comes out. Can't believe I would ever get an Apple. But it's almost perfect. Hide the lenses, make it as light and narrow as the S10, lower the price and it would be perfect. The camera system is the best, the battery's incredible, and I like the security choices Apple gives you. So far I'm happy.
 

masta247

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I just got an iPhone 11 pro...until the next Galaxy comes out. Can't believe I would ever get an Apple. But it's almost perfect. Hide the lenses, make it as light and narrow as the S10, lower the price and it would be perfect. The camera system is the best, the battery's incredible, and I like the security choices Apple gives you. So far I'm happy.
The 11 is a great phone indeed. I personally don't like their design, and the camera system isn't better than the P30 or even the S10 on the Android side, which are the best smartphone cameras to beat at the moment. I am not a fan of Apple's image processing in particular, which looks somewhat muted in comparison. Especially if you play with Samsung's Pro mode, which really allows you to take much better pictures. The performance and battery life on the 11 are the best you can get though, which is great, really.

I never had as many good things to say about iPhones as I do now, but they've come a long way technologically - they have almost caught up in all regards while offering leading performance. The main complaints I have are related to how out of this world the price has gotten, the somewhat dated-looking design with weird phobia-inducing camera cutouts, and actually the cameras and photo processing itself - they are actually still using small camera sensors that haven't gotten larger since the iPhone 8 - at this point they are merely half the size of what Huawei use in their flagship phones, which dominate smartphone photo comparisons at the moment. I still have to give them some minus points for killing the headphone jack and making a killing on storage.
 
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THEV1LL4N

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Thoughts on this - I'm getting a further 10% off Black Friday prices at Samsung's official website.

Samsung Galaxy S10 128GB on Samsung.com = £799.
Samsung Galaxy S10 128GB on Amazon = £639.99 (currently). Can get the International version for £579 from lesser known sellers.
Samsung Galaxy S10 128GB on Samsung.com = I can get this for £584 right now.


Samsung Galaxy Note 10 256GB on Samsung.com = £869
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 256GB on Amazon = £772.95 (currently, and cheaper than what I can get it for from Samsung)

Samsung Galaxy S10e 128GB on Samsung.com = £669
Samsung Galaxy S10e 128GB on Amazon = £669
Samsung Galaxy S10e 128GB on Samsung.com = I can get this for £602.10 (at this price, the S10 wins)

Samsung Galaxy A90 5G (Samsung.com) = £669
Samsung Galaxy A90 5G (Samsung.com) = I can get this for £602.10

Samsung Galaxy A80 (Samsung.com) = £579
Samsung Galaxy A80 (Amazon) = £579
Samsung Galaxy A80 (Samsung.com) = I can get this for £431

Samsung Galaxy A70 (Samsung.com) = £369
Samsung Galaxy A70 (Amazon) = £319
Samsung Galaxy A70 (Samsung.com) = I can get this for £296


Thoughts?
 

masta247

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Xiaomi power banks are generally excellent - amongst the best there are. I had one back in the days (USB-A though) and it was the best power bank I ever had. Back in the days when competition had cheap, plastic power banks that worked as they pleased, Xiaomi already made large (5000mAh, 10000mAh etc.), slim power banks with LED indicators, pretty and durable aluminum bodies and that worked exactly as you'd expect. They also used the highest grade batteries from Samsung and LG, and cost sometimes half of what much worse Sony or Samsung power banks would cost (that would often use cheap no-name batteries).

I'm not sure how things are now, but if anything Xiaomi is now even further ahead of the game in terms of quality of their products. Just google for reviews of the specific model you are looking at to find out whether it's not a bad apple. Generally, I feel like I can buy any Xiaomi product and count that it'll be top-notch quality though.
 
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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Masta, if I'm not mistaken, you lived in South Korea for a bit for work, right?

How was the company Coway? I just read that its presence is huge in Korea, even bigger than Samsungs.

We bought a few air purifiers from them recently as it was rated as the best for its price and performance by pretty much every review site. We ordered the simple one, the Coway Mighty and its been pretty good for us. It's barely been a week, though, and we've seen an improvement in air quality but reliability was the question because reviewers really don't really talk about that.

Now we have a Coway Air Mega 400 on the way, one of the larger, 1700+ sq. ft units, and that is pretty well-reviewed as far as purifiers for large air spaces are concerned.

Just curious since it's not quite a "tech" company, but I read it was as large of a company as Samsung, which is pretty damn impressive.

We plan on keeping the big one at home, at least on one floor and maybe a second Air Mega 400 for the top floor and taking the smaller, Mighty ones to the clinic for the waiting room and exam rooms, especially with the weather getting colder and flu season in full swing.

We looked at Dyson's purifiers, especially the 3 in 1 purifier, fan, and heater, but they didn't garner favorable reviews. Performance and reliability was abysmal, especially for the $600+ price tag. Which is strange because their vacuums get some of the highest marks and we own three of them. But they do look nice lol.

Anyway, bottom line, Coway: any experience or thoughts on the company?


Also, I've been putting off updating to Android 10 on my S10+. I'll wait for a 10.1 update or something so if there's any phone-breaking bugs, I can wait those out. The itch is there but since the Nougat update on my S7, I haven't been as anxious to update my phone as much anymore. 9 seems just fine for me and I really don't want to disturb whatever good omens it has that gives me 7 hours of SOT with LTE on and using 1 GB of LTE data. I go two days without charging this thing and I have a feeling my S10 is just waiting for me to change something so it can give itself permission to nosedive to sub-3 hour SOT like my S7 did lol

But it's been like that with all my devices and updating them. I no longer care about macOS or iOS updates, either. Catalina on macOS seems really nice and all my programs I use on my Mac are 64 bit, so no compatibility issues there. I just don't want to deal with possibly bugs that ruin things in other ways.

I think it was a Mojave update that absolutely fucked DOTA up for me. I consistently get 100+fps on ultra settings in 1080p with my eGPU but one Mojave update crippled it back down to just above 60 fps. It was like that for 2 or 3 months and I was getting upset at my eGPU thinking it was taking a shit within one year of use. Then an update came out and it shot back up to 100+ again. So now I really hold out on updates since Apple keeps its security updates separate from the "regular" updates to the OS.

Same stuff with iOS. I used to get around 9 hours of SOT on my iPad Pro 10.5. In the last six months or so, with iOS 13 and its betas, it took a nose dive and still hasn't recovered. I may need to do a fresh install of iOS on it since my iPad hasn't been "clean" since I got May 2018. Doubt it fixes anything, but I'll try anyway.

And as part of Black Friday early deals, we finally got a decent deal on a Ring Pro doorbell. It was $180 for the Pro, a Chime, and a "free" Alexa Echo 5. So now we will have an Alexa and a Google Assistant household lol. That is going to confuse the shit out of my parents who now have finally gotten the hang of using the "OK, Google" command throughout our house to deal with lighting and get weather info or even make phone calls. I think we'll just be using the Alexa device for the screen, which will show video from the camera. I'm not about to waste another year trying to teach them to use Alexa to order stuff from Amazon or something using their voice.
 
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masta247

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Anyway, bottom line, Coway: any experience or thoughts on the company?
I came across their devices in Korea, where they seem to make air and water purifiers, vacuum cleaners and occasionally simple home electronics.

They're definitely nowhere comparable in size with actual big conglomerates like Samsung. I thought they're relatively small, sort of like Hamilton Beach of their industry, and in Korea. They don't seem to even have a Wikipedia page, lol. I never thought they're great or bad, they're just there, and they seemed legitimate definitely with plenty of presence around hotels, offices, etc.
That said I don't have much experience with air purifiers. The only one I bought was the apparently best apartment-sized one that's made by Xiaomi, whatever it's called, that I got for my mom. I saw that it topped all online rankings and got that one.

Edit: it was an older version of this one: https://www.amazon.com/Purifier-Display-Formaldehyde-Sterilization-Cleaning/dp/B07M7ZCHFJ
It looks like it's nowhere as popular in the US, as you guys don't have Xiaomi stores there.
Also, I've been putting off updating to Android 10 on my S10+. I'll wait for a 10.1 update or something so if there's any phone-breaking bugs, I can wait those out. The itch is there but since the Nougat update on my S7, I haven't been as anxious to update my phone as much anymore. 9 seems just fine for me and I really don't want to disturb whatever good omens it has that gives me 7 hours of SOT with LTE on and using 1 GB of LTE data. I go two days without charging this thing and I have a feeling my S10 is just waiting for me to change something so it can give itself permission to nosedive to sub-3 hour SOT like my S7 did lol
Yeah, I feel like that about most software updates in general unless I have an issue and I look forward to it being fixed. If everything is working great, people actually waiting on software updates that bring almost no useful features but likely slow down the devices or otherwise mess them up are confusing me.
My experience with my old S4,, S6 and Ipad Air is that they were all silky smooth on the software they launched with. While at those times updates brought much more to the game than they do now, none of those devices was remotely as usable with the final software build that they supported as they were with their original software builds. The iPad Air at least went a really long way in terms of features, as it went through most major milestones for iOS - that thing was supported for over 6 years, and the final iOS release that it runs works better than the prior two, so they left it on a relatively good note.

My current S8 was absolutely flawless on Nougat, still did good with Oreo, but Pie clearly regressed on performance and introduced issues (like launching camera app cleaning most other apps from RAM, sometimes not saving pictures taken when the device is locked, etc.). I wish I could revert to Oreo, and it's not because Pie is that bad, but because the phone just worked flawlessly with Nougat and Oreo, and Pie brought nothing that's worth having to deal with the downsides. The amount of scrutiny the software that comes with the device receives is uncomparable to that for what the small update teams produce, especially if it's an older device that is no longer sold or reviewed. There's no way it's going to work as well as the launch build did.
 
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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I found the article stating it was on the same level as Samsung here: https://breathequality.com/airmega-400s-review/#a4

Under the customer service section.

And yeah, Xiaomi has no presence here. I think people with the Xiaomi phones in the US bought them internationally, and not even from Amazon but from sites like AliBaba or something. I don't think resellers here are very trusted for Chinese products. Even some of the vape equipment, I'd get from FastTech before Amazon or something. Funny enough, I did use eBay for a glass replacement on one of my units lol. It was fine and fit well but nothing beyond that. Coils and other stuff, I'd get the stuff labeled "authentic" on FastTech before going eBay or anywhere else.


And yeah, agreed about the features of the latest Android iterations. iOS features in the past few updates have been more exciting than what Android has brought. I still upgrade iOS versions with no worries but I do wait for an x.1 version beforehand. People on Reddit love being guinea pigs for the betas and launch day official releases so their complaints 15 minutes after using a new upgraded OS is always fun to read through. And an indicator on whether to upgrade or not.

I'm currently laughing at the idiots on the S10 sub who would've slit their mothers' throats for an invite via the Samsung Members app to the beta and now are complaining about HDR issues with the camera and certain features being gone from the Pie days. At least they have a good change of scenery. Before they were complaining about the minute difference in performance the Exynos models had over the SD variant, including the camera performance and getting Night Mode.

As for this new purifier we got, this thing has some grunt. Standing next to it, you can feel it fighting with your lungs to suck the air from around it lol. I think this is what we needed with the cooking that goes on in our house as well as our dog who is shedding for the winter. We got it in black, so it looks pretty subtle with the rest of the house. Opted for the non-WiFi model since it'll be on all the time on Smart mode, so no need to fiddle with that. And it's only compatible with Alexa, which is strange. You'd think they'd include Google Assistant and leave out Apple's Homekit but it seems like they're butt-buddies with Amazon all of a sudden. Dyson is the same way where it is only compatible with Alexa, as far as I know.

But props to Amazon for getting their smart home stuff in to every home. I remember how Siri was the first assistant out there, at least on a wide-scale, and people knew the name "Siri" while being oblivious to the Google Assistant. Plenty of memes about Siri. Now Alexa is the focus of memes with the whole "Alexa, play _____" where you mention a song to describe the mood or emotion of something. I don't know about in the EU or even Asia, but Fire sticks are pretty popular. If anyone has a dedicated streaming device, it's most likely a Fire device. On sites with tech deals, most of the people mention getting their smart devices, as well as IFTTT, connected with those devices. Which isn't to say they don't use Assistant but I get the impression they use Assistant on their phones when they want to control something with their phone, but in the house they opt for Alexa-equipped devices and are looking for appliances and other smart devices that are compatible with Alexa.

Ring is another big brand, owned by Amazon, and it seems like a 50/50 split between Nest and Ring alarm systems, cameras, doorbells, etc. Any one else leftover is using a Wyze cam or some obscure camera brand with a custom set up that requires some experience with networking and getting everything to play nice and remain connected. So a tiny majority. But Amazon has its foot in people's houses via the Ring route, as well.

I doubt we switch from using our Assistant devices (phones, 3 Minis) and just to Alexa when the Echo Show 5 gets here, but something tells me Amazon is so vested in getting their devices in to every home, that their user experience with their devices is a prime focus of theirs. They want to make sure every thing is integrated properly and users aren't forced to dig in to the settings and troubleshooting if something doesn't work. We have some issues with Assistant devices not responding all the time or simply being kicked off the network and failing to make connections. It could be our network but no other device has this issue, be it our Ring alarm base station, Nest thermostats, or computers, tablets, phones, etc. Just the Mini devices.

I can't remember if I asked before but have you thought about a mesh network? Orbi, Google, etc.? We may need one since our house is becoming "smarter" with more devices and those devices are starting to be outside our house and not just inside and near our E4200 Linksys router. I think one of our TP Link lightbulbs outside is unable to get a reliable connection and gets knocked offline from time to time. And with the addition of a door bell soon, connection quality might be an issue then. And if we go the Ring outdoor camera route in the future, that's just one more thing.

It compounds the issue because our setup is so retarded but is required to stay this way. Our modem has to be in the basement because the wiring is such that voice from Xfinity is not available from any other coaxial port in our house but the one in our basement. That modem is a router/modem combo, which I disabled the router for because of shit coverage. So it has a 100 foot ethernet cable running from the modem, across the basement and up the stairs to the ground floor. Then it takes a trip directly vertically about 15 feet along the stairwell to the top floor landing, where I have placed the router to cover the first and second floor adequately. And it does cover our rooms everywhere just fine but a few reasons make me want to upgrade. One, is to get rid of this retarded set up which involves a 100ft ethernet cable. The second, our router is 8 years old now. Maybe older. It still broadcasts in N-wireless but we are so beyond that now, it's time to get an AC router. And second, it would likely improve coverage outdoors for smart lights and cameras, something that is already an issue for us now and probably will only get worse with more devices added.

I've seen reviews say that Orbi and Eero are both good and to stay away from the crap that Google puts out. But it seems time for us to get with the ages on the router front because now our home security may depend on it, be it the alarm system or security cameras or security lighting.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
One thing I will say about Alexa so far, the UI is so much better than Google Home. In typical Google fashion, you're left figuring out what the fuck you can even do with it, like command and services compatible with it. Amazon has put everything right there in the menu and there's even a slip of paper with about 50 different commands services you can use.

One thing I didn't know until about two weeks ago was that Alexa is not limited to just Amazon devices. I never see the app on the front page of the Play Store, and I can understand why, but there is an Alexa Android app and it can even take the place of the Assistant.

I used to see so many deals from Amazon that required the use of Alexa and automatically wrote it off thinking that it required having an Echo or Fire device. Turns out it just required having the Alexa app installed.

Props to Google for basically handing out these Minis for free to get them in the homes of people like who sat it as a few bucks saved and had a "eh, why not commit to Google Home." It worked. We'll see how Alexa is in the long run but so far I'm really impressed and also feel like I was using a half-ass product with Google Home devices and the Home app on my phone.
 

Casey

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My experience has been the total opposite.

I have an Echo Dot and it's practically useless. It never knows the answer to anything. If I want to make it do something I have to search through their dumb-ass annoying list of "skills" to find something to enable.

Whereas, the various Google Homes I have (Home, Mini, Max and Hub) all just work perfectly more often that not - especially with super robust Phillips Hue and Nest integrations. And if I'm out and about with just my phone, or with my Pixel Buds, the commands through Assistant are all the same.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
My experience has been the total opposite.

I have an Echo Dot and it's practically useless. It never knows the answer to anything. If I want to make it do something I have to search through their dumb-ass annoying list of "skills" to find something to enable.

Whereas, the various Google Homes I have (Home, Mini, Max and Hub) all just work perfectly more often that not - especially with super robust Phillips Hue and Nest integrations. And if I'm out and about with just my phone, or with my Pixel Buds, the commands through Assistant are all the same.

Yeah, after spending some time with it, manually adding some of the "Skills" is annoying. I guess I'm singing a different tune after spending a full day with it. A Skill needs to be downloaded and then you sign in with an account.

I wanted to link Spotify to it but I had to download it as the Skill and then was prompted to sign in. Google Home does have it in the audio settings by default, along with Deezer and some other stuff. This was annoying on Alexa.

I am still enamored with finally having a screen. It's certainly not the best screen on a smart speaker, or whatever we call it, but still it's nice to get weather and other stuff shown visually when you ask for it. I assume the Home non-Minis (whichever ones have the screen) are similar in that sense.

It was a free device, so not complaining. The big benefit was having something connected to our Ring security alarm and doorbell camera, and it will do just fine for that. I don't think Google Home allows for Ring camera feeds to show up on their screens. It does support the Nest Cam, obviously, but that's not the route we took for security.

A sidenote, a version of our air purifier was Alexa compatible lol. Not sure if I mentioned that before but it can be connected to WiFi and takes Alexa commands to set timers or set fan speeds but was $100 more.

I'd ask Casey about mesh networking but I'm pretty sure he runs a Google WiFi, if he does have a mesh network lol. And I haven't read good things about that.

But I'm also trying to read up and see if these things are glorified range extenders. I don't think they are but some are saying that a range extender could be the best option for most people, and even those run in to problems. Our issue is simply to keep smart devices far from the router still connected to the internet so that they can respond to triggers from either timers set from their company's apps or via IFTTT. We have one bastard bulb that connects when the switch is flipped on but at some point after that it disconnects. So the light remains on indefinitely and it doesn't seem to reconnect. IFTTT gives a failure message, as is protocol, when it can't reach a device after multiple attempts. The bulb also is unable to be recognized in the Kasa app, so it's not just an IFTTT problem.

Oh well. We'll see what the tech budget is for Black Friday and maybe see if a mesh kit goes on sale and is necessary. It's certainly necessary at the clinic but I'll likely go the Ubiquiti Access Point route for that. The need there is truly about maintaining connection speed as we run sleep studies that use quite a bit of data and it's all stored in the cloud. Can't compromise on that.

I heard the first ad for the Pixel 4 on the radio today. It wasn't even a Google ad or an ad from a carrier but it was one of those ads from the radio station where the host just reads a script endorsing the product. The whole "I own a Pixel 4 and I love it!" Does he really though? They touted the features of the camera and Night Sight, which Google has mastered, but that was all that was mentioned. And the generic "a beautiful "blank-inch" screen. It was just interesting because I've never heard this station do an ad for a phone before, be it this or the iPhone. It's usually a carrier like VZW advertising getting a free shitty LG device with a new contract, or something. But this guy actually said he loved his Pixel 4 lol. Maybe the internet complains too much but I think the general consensus is that it's a rip off for the price.

I actually have a few photos via Samsung's Night Mode that I took when we had some family from the UK visit us and we took a boat tour in our fucking city

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZbR4h1LvbbJvxV3f7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DUPWy1ovPCPr9ziR8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2qu9w2BW9d6fQWia7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ux5SyDFa2Wcrht1k9

Ignore that it's Trump Tower, but it was a well-lit down-river shot, I had to take it, although I supposed it's meant more for low-light situations and not simply pictures at night.
 
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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
The S10 got beta 4 today. So tempting but I just have to keep reminding myself of all the issues I've had with betas before to stop myself.

I think the final, stable release is due out in December. And I should probably wait after its release to avoid those inevitable bugs too.

In other news, Android Auto was a godsend on a long drive I had to make recently. It's been a godsend before but as AA has gotten better over time, including the new UI, it's getting to be a proper assistant that can do more stuff on the fly while driving than before. Had to make a few stops on the way in an unfamiliar but moderate sized town and instead of having to change navigation destination from the original one, I was able to keep the final destination in tact and just speak out the stops I needed to make as I made each one.

And while it's no new feature, I definitely appreciated the marking of speed traps by cops on the side of the highway on a 2 hours drive. It wasn't just shown on the map but was relayed by voice to me by Maps well before hitting those traps.
 

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