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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I feel like the Home has a long way to go. Home automation in general seems like the biggest hurdle is going to be compatibility. Like I gotta buy lightbulbs and wireless sockets that are compatible with Android and/or Apple Home. And then some will be bastards and only work on Samsung's proprietary service.

I mean, if you're getting it for free from knowing someone at Google, then cheers. I'd take one in a heartbeat. But $100+ for what The Verge said is a Chromecast with speakers and a mic, http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/7/13549848/ifixit-teardown-google-home-same-chromecast. I'll wait it out a bit.

I'd rather go through a more convoluted method like turning the Nexus Player into a similar hub with a custom ROM or something like that. At $25, it has slowly turned into the best thing I ever bought at the price or similar. To give it Home features would cause me to break down like a Jew at how great a deal it was.
 

masta247

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The Pixel's reviews are a hit or miss. Somehow the big sites praise it, while the smaller ones are more reasonable and critical of it. Feels fishy, as I dont know how you can praise THAT design.

As far as the G5 is concerned, Im not the biggest fan. I have one from office, and to me it just doesnt feel that great. The modular jaw feels a little clunky, buttons on the back are not convenient and also I dont think I could go back to LCDs after using AMOLED and LG's software implementation is my least favorite. Its a matter of personal preference though as its not a bad phone. Just I feel like the G2 was amazing and the G3 was great, and LG has regressed since then.
 

Pittsey

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I have a thermostat. Once set I never touch it again.

Currently, Google Home doesn't do enough.
Doesn't open/close my garage door
Doesn't interact with light switches
Doesn't open/close curtains
Doesn't do much at all
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I have a thermostat. Once set I never touch it again.

Currently, Google Home doesn't do enough.
Doesn't open/close my garage door
Doesn't interact with light switches
Doesn't open/close curtains
Doesn't do much at all
Quit being lazy, nig.
 

Pittsey

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Quit being lazy, nig.

It's not about being lazy. You can do all of that from anywhere in the world.

Expecting a parcel? Guy turns up and rings your doorbell which sends and alert to your phone. You speak to him via your phone even though you're in a different country. Tell him to leave it in the garage. You open the door and watch him drop it into the garage on your IP cam. You close the door.

You can set the curtains close at certain times and turn the lights on. A far more effective burglar deterrent than an alarm.
 

THEV1LL4N

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It's not about being lazy. You can do all of that from anywhere in the world.

Expecting a parcel? Guy turns up and rings your doorbell which sends and alert to your phone. You speak to him via your phone even though you're in a different country. Tell him to leave it in the garage. You open the door and watch him drop it into the garage on your IP cam. You close the door.

You can set the curtains close at certain times and turn the lights on. A far more effective burglar deterrent than an alarm.

What system do you have for the curtains and lights? I've been after something that does this for quite some time now. Any useful info you can provide would be appreciated. Cheers.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
It's not about being lazy. You can do all of that from anywhere in the world.

Expecting a parcel? Guy turns up and rings your doorbell which sends and alert to your phone. You speak to him via your phone even though you're in a different country. Tell him to leave it in the garage. You open the door and watch him drop it into the garage on your IP cam. You close the door.

You can set the curtains close at certain times and turn the lights on. A far more effective burglar deterrent than an alarm.
I think when the tech becomes cheaper to adopt and easier to use, it'll be something worth looking into.

But your example seems oddly specific. Unless I'm ordering something $100+ to be delivered, it'll be fine on my doorstep. Or I should say, I'd be comfortable letting it sit on my door step for like an hour or two before picking it up.

Controlling lights is nice but from my weak understanding of home automation, a lot of companies have proprietary items and hubs. Maybe they're compatible with Android, Amazon, and Apple home automation, but I'm not too sure. WiFi LEDs are like $20 a pop. I imagine if you buy a Samsung bulb you'd need the Samsung hub which is nearly $100. Each subsequent bulb you want to control is another $100. Nest is another popular thing that can be tied to a hub. That's a $200+ device. I can't imagine controlling curtains. You're looking at nearly $1000 for a hub, Nest, and supported devices like lightbulbs and curtains.

It's cool if you're trying to be an early adopter but I'd rather hitch my wagon to this tech, or any tech, once it's become more popular. For price and compatibility reasons, both.
 

masta247

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Anandtech angered some Android fanboys on Reddit with their review of the Pixel.
Yeah, that's what I meant. The Anandtech test was very much on-point. You will see similar from GSMArena and any honest review website doing real testing of each device. I was very surprised by the positive reviews coming in from many news and review websites that don't even do testing. Hmm.

The Pixel isn't necessarily a terrible phone, just belongs to a few price ranges lower. It's a device designed for the mid range, but with a fast processor and decent camera (with issues). Comparing it to the Nexus series, it is worse for its time than the Nexus 5 was back in the days (the Nexus 5 was the first mainstream phone with the super-fast Snapdragon 800 processor, OIS on camera and wireless charging). The Nexus 5 was better than the Galaxy S4 - otherwise the best phone of that year (which also had much slower and less efficient Snapdragon 600 processor, no wireless charging or OIS and rest was the same). The Pixel has pretty much the same processor/performance as all this year's high range phones, including cheap Chinese phones that came earlier this year. It has nothing to offer over the Galaxy S7 or LG G5, for example, which came out much earlier and offer the same performance and camera qualities, more features and higher res screens (which is ridiculous especially since Google is trying to push its VR) and for lower prices and from more reliable manufacturers (sorry HTC, your top dogs went to work for your local competitors Xiaomi and Huaweii).

Both the Nexus 5 and the Pixel have sub-par battery life on batteries that are not replaceable and both don't have SD slots too.
The difference is the Pixel is less ground breaking for its time (if it is at all, other than being marketed as a Google device, as if the Nexus line wasn't), Google being asshole for the first time and trying to make up for it with timed exclusive apps like the Assistant (which otherwise they'd make available on all Google phones if it wasn't for trying to leverage it for the Pixel), it is uglier and the Nexus 5 was 299$/349$.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
When you say the Pixel is a mid range phone, what is keeping it from being a flagship? If it has the fast processor and great camera, the screen was pretty good too if I'm not wrong....so what's it missing that makes it a flagship and worth the price? You said the camera was "decent" but didn't a highly reputable camera testing site actually rate it at the top, at least for Android phones?

I agree that a phone from Google should not cost as much or more than an S7 or G5 or any other flagship. But I see that more as Google making a phone for its own product/OS. Why would they charge more than competitors?

Just asking. Because I too want a phone that blows me away every year but I couldn't tell you what features I actually wanted.

One feature that I'm sure everyone wants is longer battery life. And the Note 7 investigation seems to have netted a conclusion that the phone was too thin and that caused the battery to overheat because it didn't have room and yadda yadda yadda. Too much technical stuff beyond that for me. But it was the obsession with manufacturers or users with having a thin, light phone. And it seems we hit the point where maybe the battery tech is getting better, but still battery life is a big issue for users and maybe we can start increasing phone thickness a bit. If not for better battery life but so that our phones don't scorch our asses.

I really don't like what Google is doing with its software/apps. Allo/Duo is trash. Didn't try it, admittedly, but I think being a Hangouts user is a good enough background to know about Google's issues with fragmenting apps. Maps is straightforward and I have no complaints. I use GMail to check email and rarely respond so no issues with the UI in that regard. But messaging just sucks on Android. I use the Samsung Messaging app on my S7 for SMS and Hangouts for others. But it's still a clunky, laggy, POS. And Google hasn't fixed it for years. Meanwhile, iOS users have a rather clean, smooth experience with Hangouts. But they also have iMessage.

It's whatever. These are small qualms but they can turn into big ones. Like Google Play Services randomly going haywire and killing battery. There never seems to be a timely fix to those.

In other news, I've been running the Nougat beta on my S7 for almost a month now. Whenever it was first released, not sure when. Feels the same. They've flipped the UI around a bit but it's still TW. I do get some lag and hang ups in some apps, namely my Twitter app Tweetings. It definitely feels a tad slower too. And since these are carrier variants, I'm worried Sprint is going to let a sloppy beta become final and we'll be stuck with it. I loved my S7 on M. It's OK now, but I am getting a bit worried.
 

masta247

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When you say the Pixel is a mid range phone, what is keeping it from being a flagship? If it has the fast processor and great camera, the screen was pretty good too if I'm not wrong....so what's it missing that makes it a flagship and worth the price? You said the camera was "decent" but didn't a highly reputable camera testing site actually rate it at the top, at least for Android phones?



I agree that a phone from Google should not cost as much or more than an S7 or G5 or any other flagship. But I see that more as Google making a phone for its own product/OS. Why would they charge more than competitors?

Frankly the pricing of Pixel by Google was a huge shocker to me. My guess is HTC's process (manufacturing or something else) is outdated and expensive, at least that can be seen on their other phones too. HTC are struggling to compete on price within any of their markets. On top of that I'm sure Google had to slap a huge margin so the costs wouldn't eat their marketing spendings (which are surely huge - trying to push the idea that it's the first phone by Google and all that). That ends up in the most overpriced mainstream device in Android's history and they probably thought they can get away with it since the iPhone costs the same and looks alike, without comparing themselves to the actual Android competition.

What I meant by a "mid range" design with high-range processor and camera are exactly that. The design, bezel sizes, display (same as the Galaxy S4), battery life, storage etc. are all very much like a mid-range phone. When you hold it in hand and forget about its pricing bias, it also feels like a mid-range phone. It's not a phone designed to be all around high-end, they just slapped in a processor and camera that are. Then again, the processor is struggling to perform like it does on other makers' phones due to poor internal and thermal design as well as poor software optimization on Google's part this time and there are the ongoing quality issues with the camera : http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...g-more-camera-issues-and-this-time-it-s-worse

In other news, I've been running the Nougat beta on my S7 for almost a month now. Whenever it was first released, not sure when. Feels the same. They've flipped the UI around a bit but it's still TW. I do get some lag and hang ups in some apps, namely my Twitter app Tweetings. It definitely feels a tad slower too. And since these are carrier variants, I'm worried Sprint is going to let a sloppy beta become final and we'll be stuck with it. I loved my S7 on M. It's OK now, but I am getting a bit worried.
That's another problem for all manufacturers except.. devices running Windows which don't suffer from this due to how universal they are.
Because the software is tailored to a specific device, you have to spend a given amount of time to take that software and actually tailor it to it. You will notice that with each subsequent software release they are less and less optimized to run on a given device. Manufacturers are extra careful with the software that comes with the device that hits the market because of reviews, because word of mouth etc. A year later? They have a new device to focus on and the older one gets similar features (while it's still supported) but not as much attention. You will see that on Android, iOS and any other mobile platform, the subsequent releases will feel like they are slowing the device down, even if the hardware is capable of running them equally well or even better.

That's why sometimes I wish Android was more like Windows - you wouldn't have to rely on your manufacturer to push a new release (and they stop after 2 years usually) and on its quality (which deteriorates after a few first updates). That became a part of manufacturers' product lifecycle management strategy, after seeing how the PC market is stalling because a 10 year old computer can run the newest Windows nicely (although they are trying to fix that by imposing limitations to new OSes getting updates only on newer processors, lol). I hate artificial limitations personally, and they are doing it to sell more newer devices by forcing people to upgrade to a device that technically isn't as much more awesome as they make it feel.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
And I think that's where the benefits of rooting your device come in after a year or two on the same device. Because those new features do run just fine on older hardware or the hardware can be tweaked like by overclocking or something.

I don't plan on rooting my S7 ever because of both Android and Samsung Pay. Both are getting a lot more usage by me in recent months. Samsung Pay was always my preferred method of payment and Android Pay is starting to show in apps for places like Panera Bread along with discounts on purchases. I value that too much but at the same time I'm sure Android will head in a direction that makes even the S7's hardware feel sluggish at some point. The beta right now I'm sure is sluggish because of bugs but Android 8 and 9, 2-3 years from now, might really bring the S7 to a crawl.

I too wish Android became universal and these custom UIs other OEMs install become available through the Play Store or something as a custom launcher or something. But then I doubt a lot of the users would download it and developing these UIs by OEMs may become fruitless. But at the same time there are TouchWiz features that I really like and do use. If a custom launcher can give me a Touchwiz look if I wanted to, that'd be awesome. And if I valued faster OS updates, I'd just use stock Android and wait for Samsung to update TW to be compatible with the next OS version.

I don't know how much sense that makes for an OEM but it'll help with the defragmentation of the OS a lot.

I get now what you're saying about the Pixel. Haven't used it still but you're saying the build quality leaves a lot to be desired despite having a top notch screen, camera, and chipset.

Would you consider the S7 to be "premium" feeling? What's the most premium phone to hold? I'm guessing you'll say a Sony device I've never heard of. :p
 

masta247

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Would you consider the S7 to be "premium" feeling? What's the most premium phone to hold? I'm guessing you'll say a Sony device I've never heard of. :p

Haha, actually I think the Xiaomi Mi Mix. It's by far the most innovative and best looking/feeling phone on the market now. The reviewers have all the same things to say about it, it's great and completely outshines the Pixel. Too bad its availability is limited, and personally it's a little too big for me. I also like Samsung's gear VR and AMOLED screens, so if the S8 is similar (and rumors has it it will be) then I will probably get it.

The S7 feels more premium than the Pixel and I think it's a better phone than the Pixel. As far as Sony goes, they fell off since they killed their Z series.
 

masta247

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Also a tech side note that doesn't relate to Android but was just a "holy fuck" moment - AMD just finished their live event where they showcased their new Zen and Ryzen processors which are coming out early 2017 and I'm left amazed. I knew they were going to be exciting but I didn't know they're going to freaking beat Intel's fastest processor ever made AND at lower power consumption AND make it available to the mainstream. Intel was making ~5% improvements yearly for each of their architectures for the past 5 years or so. AMD doubled theirs and severely beat Intel. That's history right there.

Then, when I thought it can't get any better they did a surprise reveal of their new Vega graphics card that did over 60fps at 4K maxed out on Doom and the new Star Wars game, beating Nvidia's fastest card by more than 10%, which I would never think was possible this year considering how much of a leap the GTX1080 and Titan X Pascal already were for Nvidia.

In case that didn't sink in, AMD completely wiped the floor by showing their new processors to be the fastest and most power efficient in the world beating the giant - Intel. Then on a "by the way" note they did the same with graphics cards beating Nvidia. That is a historical moment for technology and huge, huge kudos to AMD. AMD was historically an underdog, working on a tenth of Intel's budget or less, doing both CPUs and GPUs, often losing to Intel's and Nvidia's asshole and unfair business tactics when they had a competitive or superior product. AMD was almost pushed towards bankruptcy by Intel and Nvidia, even when they were having better and cheaper products. I was hoping something great would come to them for their great work for pure technological progress over the years but wow, that exceeded my expectations. I just hope they won't get blocked out of hardware deals, which historically happened before, so I'd like to spread some awareness, in case you see the big hardware manufacturers still using exclusively Intel and Nvidia parts next year - AMD will have the better products and at lower prices.

On an additional note. There is a deeply underrated human being called Jim Keller. He's the person who started with AMD and have been responsible for more breakthroughs in computer technology than anyone else in history. He worked for AMD on their earlier processors that beat Intel back in the days, he worked for Apple where he set foundation to Apple's mobile processors that are now the fastest on the mobile scene, and now he works for Tesla where God knows what he will do, but it will surely be exciting and also for cause I couldn't be happier about.
Everything he touches becomes a technological breakthrough and while the world mourns the Steve Jobses, I believe people like Jim Keller should get more appreciation as it's the people like him that push our world forward and contribute greatly not by doing well in the current social system (by doing better at selling nice products) but by enabling true innovation and progress in critical fields to human growth regardless of how we shape our social/business systems.
The reason I mention him here is because before he went to work for Tesla, he briefly returned to AMD to work and lay foundation to the aforementioned AMD Zen processor showed today.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Haha, actually I think the Xiaomi Mi Mix. It's by far the most innovative and best looking/feeling phone on the market now. The reviewers have all the same things to say about it, it's great and completely outshines the Pixel. Too bad its availability is limited, and personally it's a little too big for me. I also like Samsung's gear VR and AMOLED screens, so if the S8 is similar (and rumors has it it will be) then I will probably get it.

The S7 feels more premium than the Pixel and I think it's a better phone than the Pixel. As far as Sony goes, they fell off since they killed their Z series.
Wow, that really is a pretty phone. I have Xiaomi/1More brand headphones. The Pistons. And I love them. That was my first experience with Xiaomi and then shortly afterward the Mi Box was announced and then released a few months later. That looks nice too.

Too bad I'm on Sprint and locked into CDMA. Also the US phone market is retarded so the market for new, unlocked phones isn't all that great so getting the OnePlus or Xiaomi phones is a pipe dream for most and impossible for me on CDMA.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Also a tech side note that doesn't relate to Android but was just a "holy fuck" moment - AMD just finished their live event where they showcased their new Zen and Rezen processors which are coming out early 2017 and I'm left amazed. I knew they were going to be exciting but I didn't know they're going to freaking beat Intel's fastest processor ever made AND at lower power consumption AND make it available to the mainstream. Intel was making ~5% improvements yearly for each of their architectures for the past 5 years or so. AMD doubled theirs and severely beat Intel. That's history right there.

Then, when I thought it can't get any better they did a surprise reveal of their new Vega graphics card that did over 60fps at 4K maxed out on Doom and the new Star Wars game, beating Nvidia's fastest card by more than 10%, which I would never think was possible this year considering how much of a leap the GTX1080 and Titan X Pascal already were for Nvidia.

In case that didn't sink in, AMD completely wiped the floor by showing their new processors to be the fastest and most power efficient in the world beating the giant - Intel. Then on a "by the way" note they did the same with graphics cards beating Nvidia. That is a historical moment for technology and huge, huge kudos to AMD. AMD was historically an underdog, working on a tenth of Intel's budget or less, doing both CPUs and GPUs, often losing to Intel's and Nvidia's asshole and unfair business tactics when they had a competitive or superior product. AMD was almost pushed towards bankruptcy by Intel and Nvidia, even when they were having better and cheaper products. I was hoping something great would come to them for their great work for pure technological progress over the years but wow, that exceeded my expectations. I just hope they won't get blocked out of hardware deals, which historically happened before, so I'd like to spread some awareness, in case you see the big hardware manufacturers still using exclusively Intel and Nvidia parts next year - AMD will have the better products and at lower prices.

On an additional note. There is a deeply underrated human being called Jim Keller. He's the person who started with AMD and have been responsible for more breakthroughs in computer technology than anyone else in history. He worked for AMD on their earlier processors that beat Intel back in the days, he worked for Apple where he set foundation to Apple's mobile processors that are now the fastest on the mobile scene, and now he works for Tesla where God knows what he will do, but it will surely be exciting and also for cause I couldn't be happier about.
Everything he touches becomes a technological breakthrough and while the world mourns the Steve Jobses, I believe people like Jim Keller should get more appreciation as it's the people like him that push our world forward and contribute greatly not by doing well in the current social system (by doing better at selling nice products) but by enabling true innovation and progress in critical fields to human growth regardless of how we shape our social/business systems.
The reason I mention him here is because before he went to work for Tesla, he briefly returned to AMD to work and lay foundation to the aforementioned AMD Zen processor showed today.
Has Apple ever used an AMD CPU? I think they do use AMD GPUs, either in the past or even currently. My MBP has an Nvidia. But I always wondered what happened to AMD, at least in Apple products. I think they still make chips for PCs. Was Apple being almost exclusive with Intel and Nvidia and that kind of hurt AMD? I've read about AMD being pushed out by illegal practices by Intel and I too heard they were considered the underdog to Intel in spite of having superior products.

Since my main experience is with Apple computers in recent years and I've only recently started paying attention to PCs again, I know the latest MBPs released were a buzz kill for many reasons. No Kaby Lake CPUs, which some people said wasn't even meant for a "professional" machine like the MBP because it was low voltage and more for efficiency rather than powerhouses. If Apple has convinced the world that there are only 3 processors out there (i3, i5, i7), then does AMD stand a chance to get back into Apple machines and convince others otherwise?
 

masta247

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Wow, that really is a pretty phone. I have Xiaomi/1More brand headphones. The Pistons. And I love them. That was my first experience with Xiaomi and then shortly afterward the Mi Box was announced and then released a few months later. That looks nice too.

Too bad I'm on Sprint and locked into CDMA. Also the US phone market is retarded so the market for new, unlocked phones isn't all that great so getting the OnePlus or Xiaomi phones is a pipe dream for most and impossible for me on CDMA.

I know, right.

This photo shows how far Google has gone backwards with the Pixel XL in terms of the bezel size and simply wasted space on the phone (and the XL has still slightly smaller bezels in relation to phone's size compared to the regular Pixel!) . The photos are to scale, and you can see the display sizes and phone dimensions on it. The phones are all very close in size, with the Nexus 6 being overall just a wee bit bigger that the other two considering their total cubature. The Mi Mix looks slightly bigger than the Pixel XL but makes up for it by being thinner, it's the heaviest but packs a 4400mAh battery.



And comparison with the regular Pixel, which is even worse :

 

masta247

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I've read about AMD being pushed out by illegal practices by Intel and I too heard they were considered the underdog to Intel in spite of having superior products.(...)

The problem is with Intel having deals with manufacturers so they receive discounts in exchange for agreeing to use only Intel processors. If you're Dell, Lenovo or whoever else who builds computers and you don't agree to it, Intel makes your life hell by increasing prices. You lose the competitive edge because everyone else agreed to Intel's exclusivity and so they pay less than you for the same processors. So you have to increase your devices' price to compensate and your customers go to competition who have the cheaper processors and as a result cheaper computers.
In the end all major manufacturers go for the deal. Not being able to use AMD is not as much of a problem for them anyway, as customers know and trust the Intel processors because of Intel's marketing budget and signing the deal means having them for cheaper, while the alternative is going AMD-only which is the less popular option due to the market situation caused by this process in the first place, so we have an endless loop.
To answer about Apple, they have a long-term agreement with Intel since they switched from IBM's Power PC so whether they'd go for AMD depends on when it ends and what are the terms exactly, but Apple are quite close with Intel. In the global scale of things, Apple don't actually sell THAT many computers so it doesn't hurt AMD more than Lenovo, Asus or Dell since AMD get paid by the amount of processors shipped.

Since it's illegal to cut a competitor off completely from a given market, most of those agreements are written in a way that results in not applying to low range computers, so you see shitty, cheap laptops from major manufacturers running AMD processors occasionally which additionally creates association that AMD = cheap and shitty.
So AMD gets a major kick in the balls nr. 1 and can't do anything about it - it is in an endless loop of eating leftovers after Intel that are not good for how AMD is perceived but it needs those leftovers to survive.

See, 10 years ago AMD was still the uncontested processing king, yet Intel had most of computer manufacturers in its grasp (unfair business practices such as the agreements). So 8 years ago AMD adjusted their strategy by starting to focus and provide better value in the lower end so their processors are consistently chosen over Intel there (as mentioned that was the only place they could be chosen apart from enthusiast market of home computer builders). It backfired as since then the review sites have been criticizing AMD for not making good "performance" processors over the last years and thus not being competitive with Intel on performance, only on price. So AMD now after 8 years is changing that with ZEN that was showcased on today's event, thus my excitement, especially as they showed that they can still actually make better processors than Intel by making one and delivering it to the market and for a lower price too.
The risk is that despite having the better product, they might be killed off by the business side of things and Intel's unfair practices. I hope some manufacturers will stick with AMD this time and that would shake things up a little bit, because both AMD and customers in general deserve that. Even if for some reason you don't like AMD, real and fair competition is always good for the end users.

Kick in the balls nr 2 - benchmarks and several popular CPU intensive PC software is optimized for Intel processors, even if in general most software is not, it will run equally well on AMD and Intel processors because both are made to x86-64 spec, yet as soon as someone creates new benchmark Intel will be first to find a way to "contribute" its proprietary "patches". That's why AMD presents their benchmarks running various Open Source programs - everyone can see the code so they're fair and AMD knows they are not Intel optimized. Sadly, reviewers don't go that far, there's a general bias towards Intel amongst major tech sites. Since Anandtech started writing trash about AMD processors, suddenly you could see their site being covered with Intel ads and give-aways, and it is ever since then.
Curiously, the aforementioned x86-64 spec was, as a matter of fact invented by AMD in the first place so Intel pays yearly license fees to AMD just to be able to make 64-bit PC processors, lol. So Intel needs AMD, but at the same time Intel is constantly losing law suits and paying money to AMD for unfair competitive practices, yet they consider it worth it - they need AMD to exist, but not grow big enough to pose real competitive risk.

At this point Intel's quarterly marketing budget is bigger than AMD's total yearly revenue. Intel owns property, has government deals, big ad campaigns and deals with all device manufacturers. AMD after years of struggling against that had to sell even their fab business (basically their whole manufacturing infrastructure). They almost went bankrupt, so as a last resort move sold it to Global Foundries in return for covering the debt, but also in exchange for exclusive manufacturing agreement with them that includes high manufacturing prices and payment of yearly penalties for every processor they ordered to be manufactured at a different factory. Since Global Foundries started doing shit at manufacturing and being slow at adapting new manufacturing processes, this year AMD sold a quarter of its shares to Global Foundry to get out of the deal and get a better one allowing them to use quality plants more freely.
Additionally, in 2009 AMD sold their whole mobile division including the Adreno GPU and ARM processors to Qualcomm, now you might know those products under the "Snapdragon" brand. AMD had achieved more than Intel or Nvidia in the mobile space and had to give it away.

Hard to say those things since I currently get paid by Intel, but I very strongly dislike their business practices. AMD is the company embracing tech progress and making great products against all odds, and odds were always very much against them. It's the true underdog.


In the GPU world Nvidia is pretty much the same as Intel in CPU, plus they are making all tech proprietary, charging insane margins for their use (G-sync) even if AMD makes counterparts free (yet they are less popular due to less marketing or being disabled on Nvidia products).
Nvidia also pays off video game studios to add Nvidia specific optimizations and features that don't run on AMD cards (Gameworks, "the way it's meant to be played", physx). For comparison, AMD adds their features that are equals or sometimes betters over Nvidia for free and they can be used on any hardware, they never make their stuff proprietary.
As an addition, AMD cards have been actually significantly stronger and cheaper than Nvidia's, yet frequently ran games slower relative to their power due to Nvidia optimizations in games that Nvidia doesn't let others in on. AMD cards are actually used in processing farms due to their higher sheer performance.

A cute little example : AMD made a nice tech called Freesync that syncs the GPU with monitor's refresh rate to prevent tearing and to increase perceivable smoothness by synchronizing the monitor refreshes with frames displayed by the GPU in real time (basically to make it more natural - 1fps = 1hz).
AMD made it Open Source and offered it to become part of the Display Port Standard, which the DP committee gladly included, so now anyone can use it free of charge, as long as you have recent Display Port ports. It doesn't add a cent to the cost of a PC or a monitor, a great idea that the PC community appreciated.
Nvidia responded by developing G-Sync, which does exactly the same yet for monitor manufacturers to use it, they have to add 300$ to the price of their monitor, just for the license fee. Oh, and of course it can only be used with Nvidia cards.
But to prevent the additional 300$ spending to be ridiculous considering there are Freensync monitor that are otherwise exactly the same, do the same work and yet are 300$ cheaper, Nvidia disabled Freesync functionality on their cards (even though it's part of the Display Port spec and doesn't require anything to run it).
To make it sink in, Freesync would work on Nvidia cards if Nvidia didn't go through the effort to outright disable it on their cards, just so Nvidia card owners have to pay the huge extra for a G-sync monitor instead. What's more? Intel chose not to enable Freesync on their integrated GPUs too not to piss off their partner Nvidia, even though Intel has no counterpart to that tech whatsoever. Plus AMD is a competitor to both Intel and Nvidia (because AMD makes both CPUs and GPUs) so Intel didn't want to appear like it is "siding with a competitor" even if it adds value and doesn't cost them a cent.

To see how ridiculous it is think that AMD made their tech free, open source and part of a standard for a cable that everyone uses, it adds value, doesn't come with any negatives and is frankly very cool yet everyone disabled it on their GPUs but AMD.

If you think something was over-dramatic here, it is not, it is really how it is and I am sure there would be more to add if I had access to more than the public information anyone can easily find (the legal decisions, technologies, specs, official statements, employee essays etc.).
If you go to teh internets of the PC geeks, people are hating how our technological progress can be blocked by unfair practices everyone knows about, with Intel and Nvidia being actually rewarded for their bullshit.
Also, this is the founder of Linux saying "fuck you, Nvidia" at a public conference :

I am very glad that we have AMD as the underdog making amazing tech and I hope they manage to break through that bullshit.
 

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