look at the results in the poll LOL!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/05/poll-will-you-be-getting-an-iphone-4s/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/05/poll-will-you-be-getting-an-iphone-4s/
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I think these figures matter more. Ones that are backed up with orders, not intents to order: http://www.beatweek.com/news/9593-i...rs-close-at-half-million-sales-now-1-2-weeks/
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...d-separate-event/story-fn7j19iv-1226161748735
http://mashable.com/2011/10/08/iphone-4s-pre-order-sold-out/
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...d-separate-event/story-fn7j19iv-1226161748735
http://mashable.com/2011/10/08/iphone-4s-pre-order-sold-out/
Exactly. If the world thought solely about what was practical, we'd all drive Honda Accords and Camrys. They're cheap and good on gas. That would save people a lot of money. The speed limit on highways is between 55 and 75, so why buy a supercar that hits 200 when you can't even go that fast? Why have leather seats when you don't sit there rubbing it as you drive to enjoy its texture? Why not buy $9 jeans at Wal Mart instead of the $120 ones from those other stores (I don't know the names, I don't shop there)?
It's because people have choices and they, guess what, choose, to buy what they think look/feels/tastes/sounds good.
It's because people have choices and they, guess what, choose, to buy what they think look/feels/tastes/sounds good.
I don't think that the comparison is good. Iphone wouldn't really be the faster car or 120$ jeans compared to Wal Mart jeans because it's not technically better, its build qualtiy is not higher, nor gives you more possibilities or comfort. Actually it gives none of these.
It's a very unique situation actually. More like pop music imho. It's more "accessible" to everyone maybe? I don't know how to explain it. It's just something that people want no matter what, without really knowing why. To me the mechanism is similar to voting for the most popular political party in multi-party systems. Most people don't even read their program (only some do) yet they don't consider other choices because they feel like their choice is good. So they automatically assume that it's the good choice for them, a safe choice.
To me Iphone's phenomena is like Leibenstein's bandwagon effect meets pop music.
It's a very unique situation actually. More like pop music imho. It's more "accessible" to everyone maybe? I don't know how to explain it. It's just something that people want no matter what, without really knowing why. To me the mechanism is similar to voting for the most popular political party in multi-party systems. Most people don't even read their program (only some do) yet they don't consider other choices because they feel like their choice is good. So they automatically assume that it's the good choice for them, a safe choice.
To me Iphone's phenomena is like Leibenstein's bandwagon effect meets pop music.
You're missing the point. People go after the iPhone for looks and/or to meet the status quo. The same reason someone would go for an Aston Martin or a Ferrari. They might not be practical, but people want them for the looks.
iPhone users may not know what Android even has to offer and so they still go for the iPhone for the looks and all. And they're allowed to, because they have the choice to do so.
iPhone users may not know what Android even has to offer and so they still go for the iPhone for the looks and all. And they're allowed to, because they have the choice to do so.
Do you think that the Iphone 4S looks better than new Android alternatives? Because I don't think so, and I don't think that people think so. The thing is that they will go for it before even looking at other phones. Sometimes it's like people are even afraid to look at other phones because they are afraid to see that there are alternatives that would require them to think and sacrifice their time to make a decision, possibly undermining their current opinions which is what people hate. They are fine enough with Iphones anyway.
Iphone 4/4S these days looks like an old Honda compared to the likes of Xperia Arc, new Samsung and LG phones or even HTC or Motorola Phones. It really looks old and below average now.
I'm not super-satisfied with my Arc but placing it near the Iphone 4 really makes the Iphone 4 look like a very outdated device, and that's what Iphone owners told me when I was in Canada.
I can see positives in Iphones and iOS now, but I don't think that most people go for them for legit reasons.
It's more like "Hey, my contract ends so I have to buy a new Iphone" without even thinking about the decision.
If people were to think about it they wouldn't upgrade from Iphone 4 to 4S, because there's no point other than better camera. Dual core cpu is not needed. iOS requires significantly less processing power than Android which doesn't even need dual cores yet and it will probably make the battery die faster.
Iphone 4/4S these days looks like an old Honda compared to the likes of Xperia Arc, new Samsung and LG phones or even HTC or Motorola Phones. It really looks old and below average now.
I'm not super-satisfied with my Arc but placing it near the Iphone 4 really makes the Iphone 4 look like a very outdated device, and that's what Iphone owners told me when I was in Canada.
I can see positives in Iphones and iOS now, but I don't think that most people go for them for legit reasons.
It's more like "Hey, my contract ends so I have to buy a new Iphone" without even thinking about the decision.
If people were to think about it they wouldn't upgrade from Iphone 4 to 4S, because there's no point other than better camera. Dual core cpu is not needed. iOS requires significantly less processing power than Android which doesn't even need dual cores yet and it will probably make the battery die faster.
No, and that's why I don't own one. But this is all subjective.
With more and more businesses dropping RIM-centered services for iOS ones, what dipshit would knowingly buy an Android phone and expect it to work seamlessly? With that point, it's obvious that society is more iOS-friendly than Android-friendly, with most apps and services being developed and/or advertised for the iPhone or iPad vs. Android. There's another selling point for iOS for someone that does a little bit of research. Have you used Google Wallet yet? No. Because it's available for one phone and no business is going to adopt it for Android before adopting whatever iOS will come out with, admittedly, after Android does.
With more and more businesses dropping RIM-centered services for iOS ones, what dipshit would knowingly buy an Android phone and expect it to work seamlessly? With that point, it's obvious that society is more iOS-friendly than Android-friendly, with most apps and services being developed and/or advertised for the iPhone or iPad vs. Android. There's another selling point for iOS for someone that does a little bit of research. Have you used Google Wallet yet? No. Because it's available for one phone and no business is going to adopt it for Android before adopting whatever iOS will come out with, admittedly, after Android does.
Yeah that's why I said that I can see positives in iOS too, but most people don't even care about them. I think that most Iphone users don't go for pro apps, a lot of them probably don't download apps at all.
But actually most things that I see released for iOS are also released for Android. Windows Phone, RIM, Bada etc. are obviously in a much worse position though.
But actually most things that I see released for iOS are also released for Android. Windows Phone, RIM, Bada etc. are obviously in a much worse position though.
Do you have numbers that support "most iPhone users don't download apps at all?" I find that incredibly hard to believe.
There are apps released for Symbian and still for webOS. That doesn't mean they're not irrelevant.
You make an interesting point about contracts ending and the same OS being bought. How many people dumped their Android phones for the iPhone 4 when it came out for Verizon? How many more will do the same on Sprint? If we're talking numbers here, the iPhone was on one carrier in the US and it still outsold Android devices. Android "caught up," or so they say, and so Sprint added VZW this Spring and now Sprint for the 4S.
Whatever the reason is behind the iPhones success, it seems no one here will acknowledge it because of their allegiance to Android. And "acknowledging" it doesn't mean realizing an iPhone is more desirable than an Android device. It's not acknowledging Apple does something right (you understand, some others don't) and that iPhone sales are merely "fashion trends" but Android's misleading "3000% growth!!" numbers meant Android was on the rise. Apple's success is because of "stupid people" but Android's success is because manufacturers using it don't copy Apple's designs or leak important information, like contacts, because of security flaws. This is the kind of denial Apple is looking at.
There are apps released for Symbian and still for webOS. That doesn't mean they're not irrelevant.
You make an interesting point about contracts ending and the same OS being bought. How many people dumped their Android phones for the iPhone 4 when it came out for Verizon? How many more will do the same on Sprint? If we're talking numbers here, the iPhone was on one carrier in the US and it still outsold Android devices. Android "caught up," or so they say, and so Sprint added VZW this Spring and now Sprint for the 4S.
Whatever the reason is behind the iPhones success, it seems no one here will acknowledge it because of their allegiance to Android. And "acknowledging" it doesn't mean realizing an iPhone is more desirable than an Android device. It's not acknowledging Apple does something right (you understand, some others don't) and that iPhone sales are merely "fashion trends" but Android's misleading "3000% growth!!" numbers meant Android was on the rise. Apple's success is because of "stupid people" but Android's success is because manufacturers using it don't copy Apple's designs or leak important information, like contacts, because of security flaws. This is the kind of denial Apple is looking at.
Gizmodo runs a weekly "best of android" and "best of iPhone" apps series. Most of the time, I find myself wishing that the apps for the iPhone are found on Android. Often, they're not, and I hate the fact that it appears that largely, the artistic community keeps shunning Android. It goes the same for pretty much every print magazine out there. It's always, "iPhone and iPad" apps first, then Android...maybe. My local community bank here in Seattle that I use, which is the Boeing Employees Credit Union, has a mobile app for iPhones but not for Android. I've come across other examples too. It might be true that Android has more "free" apps but to this day, I still think the App Store trumps the Android Market, in terms of app design, UI, and functionality.
I want this app on fucking Android, fuck: http://gizmodo.com/5847598/producer-makes-insane-real time-beats-with-new-imaschine-app
I mean, there has to be a reason, why, even with all these numbers showing that more people have Android phones than iPhones, it doesn't seem to be reflected in what app developers choose to develop for. It's important to note that I don't mean games here. I don't give a fuck about what games what store has because my balls dropped a long time ago.
I want this app on fucking Android, fuck: http://gizmodo.com/5847598/producer-makes-insane-real time-beats-with-new-imaschine-app
I mean, there has to be a reason, why, even with all these numbers showing that more people have Android phones than iPhones, it doesn't seem to be reflected in what app developers choose to develop for. It's important to note that I don't mean games here. I don't give a fuck about what games what store has because my balls dropped a long time ago.
Coonie: I think that it exists with Android too. Actually smartphones became so popular that people who have no rational explanation of getting them.. actually buy them. However from my experience with Android those are usually low end smartphones. My university teacher at one of my business classes was a complete tech noob and had an HTC Wildfire. She had hard time doing basic tasks with it. I'm sure there are more people like that. It's just that with Android at least they don't pay for the most expensive phone on the market.
Sofi: I think that the Android Market is dominated by crappy apps but if it comes to app availability for example here the situation looks like this: There are many apps for Android that are not being released for Iphones because we have a huge Android developer community and there's that huge hype now that everyone should program mobile apps for Android. I think that the mobile app market is headed that way.
I know that the situation is a bit different in America. Sometimes I see apps from there that are iOS exclusive but it doesn't happen often. When I was in Canada while usually there were iOS AND Android apps for everything I saw some things having "an Iphone app" and no Android version, even for important services. That was strange considering Android's popularity and I agree that it sucks but I think it applies only to some apps. Like I said, most apps are released both for iOS and Android. Other platforms are in a much worse situation though and it's also why it'll be very hard for a new platform to emerge.
Sofi: I think that the Android Market is dominated by crappy apps but if it comes to app availability for example here the situation looks like this: There are many apps for Android that are not being released for Iphones because we have a huge Android developer community and there's that huge hype now that everyone should program mobile apps for Android. I think that the mobile app market is headed that way.
I know that the situation is a bit different in America. Sometimes I see apps from there that are iOS exclusive but it doesn't happen often. When I was in Canada while usually there were iOS AND Android apps for everything I saw some things having "an Iphone app" and no Android version, even for important services. That was strange considering Android's popularity and I agree that it sucks but I think it applies only to some apps. Like I said, most apps are released both for iOS and Android. Other platforms are in a much worse situation though and it's also why it'll be very hard for a new platform to emerge.
Iphone 4s benchmarks and camera samples are very good, they beat Galaxy S2 at the moment. Not that you need a processor like this for iOS but benchmark results are very nice. A shame they didn't do anything with the design and screen size. It's like a good hardware packed inside of an outdated shell.
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_4s_browser_benchmark_and_camera_sample_leaks-news-3257.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_4s_browser_benchmark_and_camera_sample_leaks-news-3257.php
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