America - your country is fucked

[masta247]

Well if people still fought with sticks, I'd agree.


In the age of carpet bombing and bunker busters, not so much.

Again if it comes to China I believe that they are military superior to the US or at least their forces are comparable, not even counting their 10k or so tanks.
Even comparing their navy and air units with oh so great American they are not any worse in quantity (usually exceeding American) or much in quality (with their 4th generation air units fe.)
It's also worth mentioning their top-notch cyberwarfare units, space warfare systems or missile systems with about 160 icbm silos (with nukes too) and 150 irbms all around China.
Also, we know that they possess great amounts of chemical weapons and we don't really know the type or amount since they do not belong to the Australia Group (monitoring development and export of chemical weapons).
Since 1st October 2009 we also know that they have some damn cool cruise missiles with stellar navigation systems.
The worst thing is we have no idea what they in fact have except of what has been confirmed.
oh and "According to the Pentagon, China is currently developing kinetic-energy weapons, high-powered lasers, high-powered microwave weapons, particle-beam weapons, and electromagnetic pulse weapons with its increase of military fundings"

So in fact they are not "fighting with sticks".

Indian military is also sooo underrated with the second biggest army (after China), shitloads of great aircrafts including new Su-30 and strategic nuclear bombers (3 thousand military aircrafts in total), again nuclear intercontinental missiles, great anti-missile program, and 5th world's largest navy (which is a lot considering that they don't have to worry that much about naval warfare).

China and India combined would probably shit on world's military power, let alone America.

However it would be stupid for China to do anything with it at the moment or in the nearest future. They are still too poor.
It they nuked the shit out of the US - so what then? They could say bye bye to their money and have half of the world against them.

 

[Sebastian]

china and india combined would probably shit on world's military power, let alone america.

gtfo!!

 

[masta247]

gtfo!!

okay that might be too much lol.
I wrote that soon after I woke up without thinking too much.
However other things were rather on point.

 

[Duke]

Again if it comes to China I believe that they are military superior to the US or at least their forces are comparable, not even counting their 10k or so tanks.
Even comparing their navy and air units with oh so great American they are not any worse in quantity (usually exceeding American) or much in quality (with their 4th generation air units fe.)
It's also worth mentioning their top-notch cyberwarfare units, space warfare systems or missile systems with about 160 icbm silos (with nukes too) and 150 irbms all around China.
Also, we know that they possess great amounts of chemical weapons and we don't really know the type or amount since they do not belong to the Australia Group (monitoring development and export of chemical weapons).
Since 1st October 2009 we also know that they have some damn cool cruise missiles with stellar navigation systems.
The worst thing is we have no idea what they in fact have except of what has been confirmed.
oh and "According to the Pentagon, China is currently developing kinetic-energy weapons, high-powered lasers, high-powered microwave weapons, particle-beam weapons, and electromagnetic pulse weapons with its increase of military fundings"

So in fact they are not "fighting with sticks".

Indian military is also sooo underrated with the second biggest army (after China), shitloads of great aircrafts including new Su-30 and strategic nuclear bombers (3 thousand military aircrafts in total), again nuclear intercontinental missiles, great anti-missile program, and 5th world's largest navy (which is a lot considering that they don't have to worry that much about naval warfare).

China and India combined would probably shit on world's military power, let alone America.

However it would be stupid for China to do anything with it at the moment or in the nearest future. They are still too poor.
It they nuked the shit out of the US - so what then? They could say bye bye to their money and have half of the world against them.

China and India still heavily rely on quantity. Sure, they have some top of the line stuff, but only in small amounts. India only has about a hundred Flanker variants. Even China does not operate a high amount of 27/30's.

Same with ground armour, same with helicopters. India has T-90's, yes, only a few hundred. China operates a handful of T-80's, but most is still older material.


Just for comparison, China operates about 300 Flanker variants (27's, 30's and license built J-11's). India has about the same amount of Flankers. The USAF operates 700 active F-16's alone.

It will take another decade or two before China or India would be able to "take" the US in an all-out war.

 

[Glockmatic]

The US military is always 10 years ahead of every country in terms in weapons technology, their defense budget secures that. China has ZERO aircraft carriers while the US has 11. Carriers are key to securing air superiority, a major advantage in warfare.

If the US is invaded they'll just use an EMP...just like in Modern Warfare 2 duhhhhh

 

[Flipmo]

Don't forget the UAVs!

 

[Preach]

Their debt is out of this world, and to pay it off they may have to "print more money" which would ultimately flood the market, drive up inflation etc etc

Actually, whenever a dollar is printed, it is also added to the debt. Due to the nature of interest, the money owed will always exceed the money in circulation. America can never pay back its debt. On the contrary, without its debt, the dollar wouldn't work.

The debt keeps growing exponentially and as long as the population grows at a similar pace, there will always be enough debt takers to maintain the current system.

 

[Preach]

My country as well as many others are doing good recently.
The fact that America and a few western countries are doing bad doesn't mean that the whole world is doing bad and that they are "fucked". Sure obviously it's not a good sign though.

Economy is intricate to the point where one country's economy doesn't really paint a very realistic perspective. I assume Poland like Norway relies heavily on import. You may have some natural resources in your land, but I'm assuming they are scarce. The fact that you are doing good may suggest you have good importing deals that presumably are the result of someone else's economy being good.

 

[masta247]

Economy is intricate to the point where one country's economy doesn't really paint a very realistic perspective. I assume Poland like Norway relies heavily on import. You may have some natural resources in your land, but I'm assuming they are scarce. The fact that you are doing good may suggest you have good importing deals that presumably are the result of someone else's economy being good.

Not at all. Poland is almost self-efficient as a country, we have most of the needed natural resources, we export a lot of food. We might not have enough gas and we don't have oil but we have most other things required to be independent.
Our country import-export ratio is around 50:50.
We're a large exporter actually.

 

[7 Syns]

Although they predict that in the next 50 years India, China & Brazil will eventually be the next super nations of the world. One would be a fool to deny America's position heading into the future. They, regardless of all the idiots that live there, still have a lot of intelligent people focused on progressing the country as a whole forward.

One a completely irrelevant note, good work on Australia's behalf in securing major diplomatic ties with India, China, USA, UK and Japan over the past decade. For an isolated island, this weird and unusual place will hold a lot of weight in the future of the world in the coming decades.