Your conclusion on God's existence

W210 said:
If people were going to make up a god, why make up such a demanding God like the one we have. If man were to make a god chances are it would be ok to lie and cheat on your wife sometimes or whatever, because that is what man desires. People are sinful, God is the polar opposite, it doesnt make sense that man would create a God that would send them to hell, does it.
ur right, it doesnt make sense, but wut r u sayin, that ther is proof god exists? that these people didnt make him, but actually met him? ummm i don think so. God is no more real good old santy clause IMO.
 
Saint33 said:
ur right, it doesnt make sense, but wut r u sayin, that ther is proof god exists? that these people didnt make him, but actually met him? ummm i don think so. God is no more real good old santy clause IMO.
Well I guess there is no physical proof to either prove or disprove the existence of God. But I know he exists, I have absolutely no doubt.
 
Glockmatic said:
its the same reason why our countries laws are so strict, to keep the people in order. All of the worlds religions had/have gods that punish those who go against him/her.

What kind of order do you think that the huge group of people that wrote the bible, thousands of years ago, wanted all of mankind to adhere too?? That doesnt make sense.
 
Glockmatic said:
Once again, there is proof of the age of the earth, you just ignore them
If there is apparently the entire scientific community chooses to ignore, because there is no proof, period. you just choose to ignore this


Glockmatic said:
A common ancestor yes, but not an elephant that came from seaweed
actually how do we know??


Glockmatic said:
Oh, so thats why we're taught math and english. Science class teaches what we know through science. Teachers don't teach the nitrogen cycle or gravity by saying "God does it, class dismissed", they explain it by what we know by experiments and tests.

Teaching the nitrogen cycle or gravity is a far cry from evolution, it shouldnt even be considered science. How much info on evolution is collected using the scientific method?

Glockmatic said:
I like educated religious people who accept modern ideas. I like people who can read the bible and not take it literally
Modern Ideas such as...??? And I believe the bible is to be taken literally. What makes you think it isnt


Glockmatic said:
You have the ideals of an evangelists
Ill take that as a compliment.
 

Glockmatic

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W210 said:
If there is apparently the entire scientific community chooses to ignore, because there is no proof, period. you just choose to ignore this
There are no scientific debate on the age of the earth, only young earth creationists bring refutable arguments to the table that hold no ground. If you think that scientists can't be trusted, then stop using medicines and technology please

actually how do we know??
Most scientists believe that life started as one-cell organisms. I'm not a pro at biology, so i'm not even going to try to explain the whole DNA thing.


Teaching the nitrogen cycle or gravity is a far cry from evolution, it shouldnt even be considered science. How much info on evolution is collected using the scientific method?
Its almost impossible to test evolution using the scientific method since it can take thousands to millions of years to happen.

Modern Ideas such as...??? And I believe the bible is to be taken literally. What makes you think it isnt
Modern ideas such as the age of the earth for one. If you want to take the bible literally then you better start stoning gays, non-believers, brides who are not virgins on their wedding night, false prophets, people who work on the sabbath and rape victims.

Ill take that as a compliment.
Enjoy it, because they're holding back the US in the stem-cell research field while other countries are forging ahead
 

Glockmatic

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W210 said:
Do i what? Do I want people to not kill people? Of course, but i didn't need a person saying that god did not want me to kill someone, there are man-made laws dictating so, and they don't need to say that god made those laws. In the past leaders would claim themselves to be gods in order to lead the people, so i'm not suprised if a group of people would make up rules and say a mighty god had created it.

You are pretty much sumarizing the entire Bible into just the ten commandments which is impossible.
Because they're the basic rules laid out.
 

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Glockmatic said:
Its almost impossible to test evolution using the scientific method since it can take thousands to millions of years to happen.
You know the good old Religious argument "Gods works in mysterious ways" used to answer tough questions regarding God etc? Well Evolution has one to and you just used it along with many people on this site and the majority of pro-evolution websites. "We can't see it happen because it takes millions of years for it to happen". Its just about a cop-out as the religious answer if not more.
 

Glockmatic

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TecK NeeX said:
You know the good old Religious argument "Gods works in mysterious ways" used to answer tough questions regarding God etc? Well Evolution has one to and you just used it along with many people on this site and the majority of pro-evolution websites. "We can't see it happen because it takes millions of years for it to happen". Its just about a cop-out as the religious answer if not more.
well i'll doubt evolution if you'll doubt the existance of god
 

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Glockmatic said:
well i'll doubt evolution if you'll doubt the existance of god
Why must we doubt it because we can't see it? My point with that post was not to disprove evolution, Just that its a faith kinda system
 

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Glockmatic said:
Then why do you not believe in evolution? If it requires faith like religion why is it wrong while your religion is correct?
Just cause its a faith that does not mean I have to believe in it now do I? By that reasoning I'd have to believe in all different faiths and not just Evolution, dont I? I'll give you a short answer to your question though.. lets see its impossible for it to happen by chance and coincidence alone?
 

Glockmatic

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its impossible for it to happen by chance and coincidence yet its possible for us to be formed complete with clay by an omnipotent being that appeared out of nowhere? Btw evolution does not rule out a god
 

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Glockmatic said:
its impossible for it to happen by chance and coincidence yet its possible for us to be formed complete with clay by an omnipotent being that appeared out of nowhere? Btw evolution does not rule out a god
Yes its possible for a creator to create, its not possible for something to create itself. Thats logic. The purpose of Evolution was to counter God and creationism, anyone who tells you otherwise knows fuck all. Evolutionists work night and day every day to come up with an absurd theory after another to explain the origin of the first cell without devine intervention.
 

Glockmatic

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Where does it say that god doesn't exist? It does not counter a god, it counters your god. If a person believes in evolution and doesn't believe in a god its their opinion, but the theory of evolution does not say there is no god
 

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^ I'm being real and you're not. When I talk about Evolution I talk about Darwinian Evolution not a "persons opinion of Evolution". It does not just counter my 'God' it counters all Gods since all known Gods created the millions of different species. This God that used evolution to bring about all the different species is an unknown God
 

Glockmatic

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Nowhere in darwinian evolution does it say god/gods do not exist. Perhaps its a god that doesn't care about humans and hasn't sent anyone to earth to command us, just a theory though
 
Glockmatic said:
There are no scientific debate on the age of the earth, only young earth creationists bring refutable arguments to the table that hold no ground. If you think that scientists can't be trusted, then stop using medicines and technology please

I dont know where in the world you are getting your info from, but you are way off, from my understanding the opposite is true, there are evidences of a young earth that have not been explained away. And I never said all scientists cant be trusted, hell there are probably creation scientists that cant be trusted. Im not an idiot.



Glockmatic said:
Most scientists believe that life started as one-cell organisms. I'm not a pro at biology, so i'm not even going to try to explain the whole DNA thing.
"Believe" but not know



Glockmatic said:
Its almost impossible to test evolution using the scientific method since it can take thousands to millions of years to happen.

So how can it be a proven scientific fact then??



Glockmatic said:
Modern ideas such as the age of the earth for one. If you want to take the bible literally then you better start stoning gays, non-believers, brides who are not virgins on their wedding night, false prophets, people who work on the sabbath and rape victims.

The bible never ever in one sentence tells anyone to stone someone else. The bible historically records this happening, it doesnt condone it.


Glockmatic said:
Enjoy it, because they're holding back the US in the stem-cell research field while other countries are forging ahead

Evangelists??
 

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