In Nas' latest CD and clothing line he openly criticizes Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods...Tiger Woods is walking holding hands with his white wife (obviously in a negative context) and Kobe is shining a white man's shoes...My question is why?...Why do black people criticize other black people for assimilating in American society?...Political figures are seen as "uncle toms" and people who arent "real" are openly criticized as being white-washed, etc...You never see this in the same frequency with any other race, especially in America...Why black people, why?
Why Do Black People Want Other Black People To Fail?
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I dont think its about failing, i think its more to do with appeasing or assymilating into a society or system of governemnt that once was the cause of so much oppression towards "their" peoples. To ease their suffering some decided to change the system, wheras others opposed it. Some of those who tried changing the system had become so assymilated that they became instrumental in the oppression of others, hence the term uncle tom, house nigger.
At the top is still the white man, and no matter how hard u assymilate that is never going to change. Times may have changed, people may have changed but the memory lives on.
As for Nas, I dont doubt he feels this way but he is simply using it to raise awareness of the prodcts he is selling by being controversial and drawing attention to it. In the end they all sold out.
At the top is still the white man, and no matter how hard u assymilate that is never going to change. Times may have changed, people may have changed but the memory lives on.
As for Nas, I dont doubt he feels this way but he is simply using it to raise awareness of the prodcts he is selling by being controversial and drawing attention to it. In the end they all sold out.
It's because the political leaders left are frauds who boycott chicken and make t.v shows, while they create false causes to fight for. Black People don't have any political representation being that nobody offers a political consequence for ex: We need this or else we'll......
Selling out is a major issue in our community because we are still not properly focused on gaining control over our own communities as far as building our own schools, hospitals, businesses and etc. For ex: This is exactly what the Cuban community is doing down here in Florida. They are becoming properly organized. Every race outside of the White race does this it's just that black people have been held down by little things such as Slavery, Denial of Rights, Crack, Assasination, Colonization and such.
We were close to winning when The Panthers and Malcolm were around but they're all dead and shit so the attitude is fuck it cause muthafuckas love it, especially white people.
Black people dont want other black people to fail, please stop that pathetic why black people why? Like your really concerned and your not just being cynical.
Like they say there were two kinds of slaves there was the house negro and the field negro the house negro they lived in the house, with master.And if you came to the house negro and said lets run away, lets escape,lets seperate that house negro would say man you crazy.That house negro loved his master but that field negro remember,they were in the majority and they hated the master.
In other words we enjoy it when we see a Puff Daddy or Master P, Samuel L. Jackson or a Denzel Washington make it. It's obvious they are representations of our community they stay true to who they are as far racially and displaying certain morals that we live by. When it's somebody like Tiger Woods, or Cuba Gooding jr. We just take a pass because it's obvious they are not good representations of us. They are well mannered and well spoken but yuou can tell they've compromised themselves to fit the stereotypical image the higher ups would like us to have.
Selling out is a major issue in our community because we are still not properly focused on gaining control over our own communities as far as building our own schools, hospitals, businesses and etc. For ex: This is exactly what the Cuban community is doing down here in Florida. They are becoming properly organized. Every race outside of the White race does this it's just that black people have been held down by little things such as Slavery, Denial of Rights, Crack, Assasination, Colonization and such.
We were close to winning when The Panthers and Malcolm were around but they're all dead and shit so the attitude is fuck it cause muthafuckas love it, especially white people.
Black people dont want other black people to fail, please stop that pathetic why black people why? Like your really concerned and your not just being cynical.
Like they say there were two kinds of slaves there was the house negro and the field negro the house negro they lived in the house, with master.And if you came to the house negro and said lets run away, lets escape,lets seperate that house negro would say man you crazy.That house negro loved his master but that field negro remember,they were in the majority and they hated the master.
In other words we enjoy it when we see a Puff Daddy or Master P, Samuel L. Jackson or a Denzel Washington make it. It's obvious they are representations of our community they stay true to who they are as far racially and displaying certain morals that we live by. When it's somebody like Tiger Woods, or Cuba Gooding jr. We just take a pass because it's obvious they are not good representations of us. They are well mannered and well spoken but yuou can tell they've compromised themselves to fit the stereotypical image the higher ups would like us to have.
i no what you meen when you talk about the blac population
the way that america treated us years back was fucking discusting they took all the wealth from the africans and took all of there money and then transported them to america to be in slavery but the british was even worser they some times yous to beat the africans to death if they did not do it right thats why now the africans are poor because of the british and americans taking there money poverty is so bad there i cant believe what a wicked wourld that we live in this needs to stop now if you get my point holla back
babyface
the way that america treated us years back was fucking discusting they took all the wealth from the africans and took all of there money and then transported them to america to be in slavery but the british was even worser they some times yous to beat the africans to death if they did not do it right thats why now the africans are poor because of the british and americans taking there money poverty is so bad there i cant believe what a wicked wourld that we live in this needs to stop now if you get my point holla back
babyface
That's exactly what I meant when I talked about separation. The focus shouldn't be on building up black communities or white communities or Cuban communities, but building up an integrated community.
What has Tiger Woods compromised? What has Cuba Gooding Jr. compromised? Just because they don't act like a stereotype, like 99% of rappers do, doesn't mean they've conformed to someone elses standards. Is being well-mannered and well-spoken not a good image to have? Can you explain what it is you don't like about them?
What has Tiger Woods compromised? What has Cuba Gooding Jr. compromised? Just because they don't act like a stereotype, like 99% of rappers do, doesn't mean they've conformed to someone elses standards. Is being well-mannered and well-spoken not a good image to have? Can you explain what it is you don't like about them?
Tiger Woods hasn't compromised nothing.
I don't think Cuba Gooding Jr. has either.
If Kortez is black, isn't he an example of what this thread is about - black people putting other black people down.
Anyways, jealously & envy are prevalent in all races & circles but I accept what has been said here as sometimes being particularly true in the case of black people.
There is also a group mentality in societies, so if someone does something exceptional, or at least different from the rest of their circle, there is a chance they become alienated. As the majority of black people are not 'living large', it's only natural, in the current climate of society, that they will get hated on.
All those who aided the proliferation of slavery should burn in hell eternally but still, how little you know......
I don't think Cuba Gooding Jr. has either.
If Kortez is black, isn't he an example of what this thread is about - black people putting other black people down.
Anyways, jealously & envy are prevalent in all races & circles but I accept what has been said here as sometimes being particularly true in the case of black people.
There is also a group mentality in societies, so if someone does something exceptional, or at least different from the rest of their circle, there is a chance they become alienated. As the majority of black people are not 'living large', it's only natural, in the current climate of society, that they will get hated on.
All those who aided the proliferation of slavery should burn in hell eternally but still, how little you know......
stop acting like you know what they went through.. its over nowif you want it, got get it, and dont let anyone tell you that you cant have it, and stop blaming others.
i dont give a shit about the term "sell out" to me, guys like kobe, tiger, rappers, etc etc, and ANY african american for that matter that gets paid, is doing what they need to do, fuck that selling out bs. so what, i dont sell out and i gotta live like shit, fuck that, do what it takes to get paid.
you dont owe anyone where you can from anything, people who live life like that are pussys. no one owes you shit, go get your own. i agree those who make it famous should in fact go back and give a little something to the community, but becaue they dont, doesnt make them a sell out, cause smeone moves out of the ghetto, doesnt make them a sellout.
bunch of lazy motherfuckers
bunch of lazy motherfuckers
Well for one it's easy to just speak. You're just speaking. To be a part of the struggle and speak, now thats different. Understanding would be involved rather than just information. What you're trying to live up to is at the moment an unrealistic ideal. That ideal is that we can all live integrated and peacefully which I'm sorry to inform you just does not work.
Not simply because of racism but because of cultural differences and morals that are not up for compromising. Things such as the foods we eat,types of clothes we wear, the kinds of barbers or salons we go to and etc.
In reality theres a problem when the inhabitants of an area are populated by one group of people( Blacks, Spanish, Asian) and the administraitor of all the goods /businesses (Mcdonalds,Ford Dealerships,Walgreeens,K-Mart) are outside of that group and live outside of the community it creates a problem. The problem created is that the money that should stay within that community travels outside of that community, primarily to where the Administraitor lives. Thus the Community that the administraitors are occupying gets sucked dry because the money that they are spending in their neighborhoods gets carried and used outside of that community. To put it plain and simple they get robbed for not knowing how to do themselves.
As far as the whole Cuba Gooding Jr. Tiger Woods Scenario I never said that I didn't like them, I never gave that kind of opinion. What I did say was they are not a good representation of us. Denzel Washington and Samuel L. Jackson are great examples of proper representation and they are well mannered and well spoken.
The difference with Tiger Woods and a Cuba Gooding Jr. is their image. This is something that you have to be black to understand because it's innate. Only we know what we're talking about. I can try to explain it to you but I doubt you'll understand. For instance....
I couldn't Imagine seeing Cuba Gooding Jr. at my Barber shop just talking as one of the guys, I couldn't see Tiger woods at the Jamaican food store in my hood getting some jerk chicken and goat. At the same time I can see Denzel or a Samuel L. Jackson there because they remind me of people within my community. They remind me of uncles or cousins. Thats not something I get from a Cuba Gooding Jr. or a Tiger Woods.
Thats the best I can describe it to you.
Not simply because of racism but because of cultural differences and morals that are not up for compromising. Things such as the foods we eat,types of clothes we wear, the kinds of barbers or salons we go to and etc.
In reality theres a problem when the inhabitants of an area are populated by one group of people( Blacks, Spanish, Asian) and the administraitor of all the goods /businesses (Mcdonalds,Ford Dealerships,Walgreeens,K-Mart) are outside of that group and live outside of the community it creates a problem. The problem created is that the money that should stay within that community travels outside of that community, primarily to where the Administraitor lives. Thus the Community that the administraitors are occupying gets sucked dry because the money that they are spending in their neighborhoods gets carried and used outside of that community. To put it plain and simple they get robbed for not knowing how to do themselves.
As far as the whole Cuba Gooding Jr. Tiger Woods Scenario I never said that I didn't like them, I never gave that kind of opinion. What I did say was they are not a good representation of us. Denzel Washington and Samuel L. Jackson are great examples of proper representation and they are well mannered and well spoken.
The difference with Tiger Woods and a Cuba Gooding Jr. is their image. This is something that you have to be black to understand because it's innate. Only we know what we're talking about. I can try to explain it to you but I doubt you'll understand. For instance....
I couldn't Imagine seeing Cuba Gooding Jr. at my Barber shop just talking as one of the guys, I couldn't see Tiger woods at the Jamaican food store in my hood getting some jerk chicken and goat. At the same time I can see Denzel or a Samuel L. Jackson there because they remind me of people within my community. They remind me of uncles or cousins. Thats not something I get from a Cuba Gooding Jr. or a Tiger Woods.
Thats the best I can describe it to you.
Yes "slavery" is over, but the effect of slavery still exists today. Every leader for the Black community has been the victim of brutal attacks used to discredit their cause, now I suppose those leaders for "the man" (any man not just White) that are used to fool the Black community or can plainly be seen to fall for the traps set by "the man" get discredited by the people. Not that this is true for all Black leaders subject to ridicule from the people, sometimes its just a matter of sensativity.
How is it different when a White person is called a wigger for taking on the image/stereotype of Blacks?
How is it different when a White person is called a wigger for taking on the image/stereotype of Blacks?
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