Whats the difference between American and over seas athletes.

[Story]

Yes, soccer is more draining then basketball.you mostly train in upper body in basketball where in soccer you mostly train in lower body which is legs,quads.. therefore lower body is more important then upper body cause you need healthy legs to walk before you take a shot in a basket. plus in soccer you cover more ground.

havent played much basketball have you?

in basketball you have 3 key areas we work out, triceps, our "core" which is your abdominal region, and your legs---or lower body.

quads are were all your explosiveness comes from (ie: jumping), along with your calves, ur ab region is essential for body control (read: taking a hit yet still finishing a play) and triceps are where your range in your jumpshot comes from.


BUT in terms of being in peak physical condition, soccer is the marathon against basketball's 50 yd dash. basketball is a game of short bursts, whereas a professional soccer player has to have the endurance to go for 90 minutes, nonstop. two totally different forms of conditioning, for two totally different sports
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[Bachaveli]

havent played much basketball have you?

in basketball you have 3 key areas we work out, triceps, our "core" which is your abdominal region, and your legs---or lower body.

quads are were all your explosiveness comes from (ie: jumping), along with your calves, ur ab region is essential for body control (read: taking a hit yet still finishing a play) and triceps are where your range in your jumpshot comes from.

i dont know why you really quoted me because i didnt diss basketball or say you dont work out in basketball.

in soccer you work out mostly in lower body as i repeat. everything from your butt to your toes. your legs and everything that has to do with running.you gotta have good staminia or endurance to be able to stay on the field for 90 minutes therefore you do a lot of running.you gotta have very good first reaction to the ball so you do a lot of suicide running too.you gotta have extremely strong quads to have strong shot.only part you train in upper body in soccer is shoulders to keep your defender and block away from you when it comes to physical play.

 

[Portgas D. Ace]

You run faster in Football then in basketball,

"FIFA rules state that a soccer field must be rectangular. It must be between 90 and 120 m (100 and 130 yd) long and between 45 and 90 m (50 and 100 yd) wide."

An NBA and official NCAA (college) court is 94 ft long and 50 ft wide
50 feet wide

NBA 31.302 yards long and 16.65 yards wide.
football 100 yards long and 50 wide

Try comparing those two now? football players work harder and run more, plus any idiot can tell you that soccer demands alot of talent.

 

[S O F I]

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Sorry man but you don't know shit.

On offense you stand around? No.

You make runs before you receive the ball & half the time those runs will amount to diddily squat.

But, even if it amounts to diddily squat, you still have time to rest, before making another run, no?

 

[S O F I]

You run faster in Football then in basketball,

"FIFA rules state that a soccer field must be rectangular. It must be between 90 and 120 m (100 and 130 yd) long and between 45 and 90 m (50 and 100 yd) wide."

An NBA and official NCAA (college) court is 94 ft long and 50 ft wide
50 feet wide

NBA 31.302 yards long and 16.65 yards wide.
football 100 yards long and 50 wide

Try comparing those two now? football players work harder and run more, plus any idiot can tell you that soccer demands alot of talent.

Football players may run more, but that doesn't mean they work harder than an NBA player, like Kobe Bryant for example. Dude is a workhorse. ANy idiot can tell you that basketball demands a lot of talent, maybe even more than soccer, when you think about it. Now, the size of the fields of basketball and soccer are irrelevant, due to the fact that it's a different type of sport.

 

[Bachaveli]

Football players may run more, but that doesn't mean they work harder than an NBA player, like Kobe Bryant for example. Dude is a workhorse. ANy idiot can tell you that basketball demands a lot of talent, maybe even more than soccer, when you think about it. Now, the size of the fields of basketball and soccer are irrelevant, due to the fact that it's a different type of sport.

man..i tell you again soccer players do more than NBA players.

just the abvious general fact about these two sports that soccer is been played by FOOT and basketball with HAND should explain which sport requires more work.

 

[Story]

soccer isnt all running for everyone, u wont find defenders past midfield, dont make it seem like everyone runs everywhere, i played both bball and basketball, both are physicaly demanding, but much different ways
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basketball takes more talent in my opinion, takes more coordination and such.

but it all depends on who you ask

soccer u simply kick the ball, like it or not, thats what you do

basketball u gotta control the ball, read a defense, keep the ball, not turn it over, make a play, shooting a 25 foot jumpshot is one of the hardest things to do, soccer is more physically demanding yes, but basketball requires more talent

if ur someone who can run fast, u can learn how to play soccer moderatly well, if you suck at basketball and have "white mans syndrome " you suck, and there isnt a thing you can do about it
period

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

soccer isnt all running for everyone, u wont find defenders past midfield,

Wrong.

dont make it seem like everyone runs everywhere

The goalkeeper ain't covering much grass but midfielders & full backs will cover a lot of ground as might the strikers. Centre-halfs don't cover too much, but still probably more than you think.

What it really comes down to is tactics. Depending on which formation the team is playing & what role a player has been assigned they may cover the whole pitch. Case in example, Steven Gerrard when he's gifted somewhat of a free role.

basketball takes more talent in my opinion, takes more coordination and such.

Fair enough. Your opinion.

soccer u simply kick the ball, like it or not, thats what you do

OK, I can see you've watched & played a lot of football.

basketball u gotta control the ball, read a defense, keep the ball, not turn it over, make a play, shooting a 25 foot jumpshot is one of the hardest things to do, soccer is more physically demanding yes, but basketball requires more talent

Control the ball? Yes.
Read the defence? Yes.
Keep possession? Yes.
25 yard shots? Yeah, they're hard.

Remind me again, why you need more talent to play basketball?

Is it because you constantly use your hands in everyday life & thus, have already developed great control & precision over how they interact with objects?

if ur someone who can run fast, u can learn how to play soccer moderatly well

Wrong.

if you suck at basketball and have "white mans syndrome " you suck, and there isnt a thing you can do about it

Wrong. Practice makes perfect.

Matter of fact, this statement of yours contradicts what you said about basketball revolving around talent. There are those who are naturally gifted in certain areas but, if basketball is a game of talent then surely anyone can become good given time?

 

[2Pax]

Any sport you move more than in baseball.

Baseball is to me the laziest sport out there. lol

No I think 'Darts' takes that title, the biggest distance they have to move is like 2 metres to pick their darts out from the board.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

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2Pax are you out of your fucking mind??!!!

To be a darts player mean years of conditioning your mind & body.

Their endurance - under the influence of blood in their system - is incredible.

Do not knock darts players.

Do you know how much training they put in down their local?

Bow down to the superb human specimens that are darts players.

 

[Bachaveli]

Is it because you constantly use your hands in everyday life & thus, have already developed great control & precision over how they interact with objects?

thats what i been trying to tell.

in basketball you play with hands therefore you have more feel and sense to where the ball is and how to deal with the ball since you constantly use your hands everyday and do a lot of things with em.

but in soccer you dont have that benefit or that help because you dont use legs to feel the object and things as much as you do with your hands everyday therefore it takes more for soccer players to get use to and learn soccer skills.so,therefore that leads to more training abviously.

 

[Story]

Wrong.



The goalkeeper ain't covering much grass but midfielders & full backs will cover a lot of ground as might the strikers. Centre-halfs don't cover too much, but still probably more than you think.

What it really comes down to is tactics. Depending on which formation the team is playing & what role a player has been assigned they may cover the whole pitch. Case in example, Steven Gerrard when he's gifted somewhat of a free role.



Fair enough. Your opinion.



OK, I can see you've watched & played a lot of football.



Control the ball? Yes.
Read the defence? Yes.
Keep possession? Yes.
25 yard shots? Yeah, they're hard.

Remind me again, why you need more talent to play basketball?

Is it because you constantly use your hands in everyday life & thus, have already developed great control & precision over how they interact with objects?



Wrong.



Wrong. Practice makes perfect.

Matter of fact, this statement of yours contradicts what you said about basketball revolving around talent. There are those who are naturally gifted in certain areas but, if basketball is a game of talent then surely anyone can become good given time?

who says im wrong you?

ive played plenty of soccer and have a few professional players in my family, not every covers the whole field, dont deny that, but i did say, that in terms of cardiovascular and peak physical condition, soccer players are in better shape.

BUT basketball involves more talent period.

this is my opinion.

you have your own, but dont tell me im wrong, because i can easily say, well all a soccer player does is run, kick a ball,

notice how i said,in my opinion.

because in my other opinion, soccer isnt a sport, its an activity where for 90 minutes essentially nothing happens and u get a goal here and there. basketball requires more "god" given ability, anyone can become a decent soccer player (keep in mind im not talking pro), but im going to tell you what, if you fucking suck at hoops, u suck, and u arent going to get very good, as a matter of fact, u wont get good

basically im saying basketball requires more NATURAL talent, and a more gifted athlete. in my opinion of course

unlike you im not saying this is fact, this is my opinon. dont sit around sayin WRONG, because my friend. im not wrong or right

 

[Zero Cool]

because in my other opinion, soccer isnt a sport, its an activity where for 90 minutes essentially nothing happens and u get a goal here and there. basketball requires more "god" given ability, anyone can become a decent soccer player (keep in mind im not talking pro), but im going to tell you what, if you fucking suck at hoops, u suck, and u arent going to get any better than your natural ability will allow. soccer, anyone can learn to do.

Put simply that's crap. I used to be absloute rubbish at basketball but over the period of a year I played and practised hard and I consider myself to be quite good. A certain degree is natural talent but with practice anyone can become a good basketball player just like anyone can become a good soccer player. Soccer is far more than an activity where for 90 minutes nothing happens. If it was it wouldn't be the most popular sport in the world hands down. Soccer is a sport with a high degree of talent involved, if you ever saw Pele or Maradonna in full flight you would realise that.

 

[Bachaveli]

ive played plenty of soccer and have a few professional players in my family

because in my other opinion, soccer isnt a sport, its an activity where for 90 minutes essentially nothing happens and u get a goal here and there. anyone can become a decent soccer player

Man..why do i feel theres a need to diss you?

first, having played PLENTY of soccer and having few proffesional players in your family and having said 'soccer isnt a sport, its an activity' by same person will only make you blow your mind off.

No disrespect although...i feel theres a need to but that tells a lot about you and your 'proffesional players' in your family that you played plenty of soccer and yet think its not a sport? and you have proffesional players in family and im assuming if you have this kind of observation at soccer that its not a sport then i dont see any reason why your proffesional family players wouldnt agree on you.

boy you dont know what you talking about.

 

[Story]

Put simply that's crap. I used to be absloute rubbish at basketball but over the period of a year I played and practised hard and I consider myself to be quite good. A certain degree is natural talent but with practice anyone can become a good basketball player just like anyone can become a good soccer player. Soccer is far more than an activity where for 90 minutes nothing happens. If it was it wouldn't be the most popular sport in the world hands down. Soccer is a sport with a high degree of talent involved, if you ever saw Pele or Madonna in full flight you would realise that.

soccer isnt the most popular sport here in america, for your information, look i said its my opinion, you think your good, thats fantastic, and its diego maradona, not madonna.

 

[Zero Cool]

soccer isnt the most popular sport here in america, for your information, look i said its my opinion, you think your good, thats fantastic, and its diego maradona, not madonna.

Excuse my grammatical mistake. By being flippant do you expect to enhance your viewpoint? Tell me, have you ever seen greats such as Marco van Basten, Garincha, Franz Beckenbauer or Gerd Muller in action? If so I doubt you'd be so quick to call soccer a "talentless" sport. As much as they like to ignore it the U.S. is only a small part of the jigsaw that makes up the world we live in. Pound for pound soccer is the most liked, most watched and most supported sport in that world, if it was as boring as you describe I doubt it would have reached that pinnacle. Most American "sports" are made for TV dross. The NFL being a premium example. Maybe that's why the rest of the world doesn't take them seriously.

 

[Bachaveli]

soccer isnt the most popular sport here in america, for your information.

he didnt say it was. he said this.

Soccer is far more than an activity where for 90 minutes nothing happens. If it was it wouldn't be the most popular sport in the world hands down.

meaning soccer is most popular sport in the world.

look i said its my opinion.

you can have your opinion on anything no doubt but when you say this..

ive played plenty of soccer and have a few professional players in my family

because in my other opinion, soccer isnt a sport, its an activity where for 90 minutes essentially nothing happens and u get a goal here and there. anyone can become a decent soccer player

it only makes you look like you dont know nothing about soccer so therefore your opinion really doesnt make sense nor it does make any difference.

 

[Story]

he didnt say it was. he said this.



meaning soccer is most popular sport in the world.




you can have your opinion on anything no doubt but when you say this..






it only makes you look like you dont know nothing about soccer so therefore your opinion really doesnt make sense nor it does make any difference.

again its my opinion that soccer is boring to watch, and boring to play, and takes great physical conditioning, but minimal talent


my opinon, if you dont like it, guess what, i dont really care

 

[Bachaveli]

again its my opinion that soccer is boring to watch, and boring to play, and takes great physical conditioning, but minimal talent


my opinon, if you dont like it, guess what, i dont really care

oh you can have that opinion although rest of the world disagrees you including myself.

but you didnt say that in previous post that soccer was boring to watch and play and that it was your opinion. you said this..

because in my other opinion, soccer isnt a sport, its an activity where for 90 minutes essentially nothing happens and u get a goal here and there. anyone can become a decent soccer player

and thats what i was disagreing on you.

 

[Story]

oh you can have that opinion although rest of the world disagrees you including myself.

but you didnt say that in previous post that soccer was boring to watch and play and that it was your opinion. you said this..



and thats what i was disagreing on you.

im sure the WHOLE WORLD AGREES WITH YOU