Little Skittle said:
america was born in 1776, therefore so were americans.
Native Americans were born before 1776 - they were true Americans. The 'Americans' that you speak of are either reasonably recent descendants of foreigners, or their ancestors date back to when the genocide occured (I'm pretty sure this will make up a notable portion of the populaton). Which are you?
Little Skittle said:
y would i love timothy mcveigh? he killed many innocent people including children...as did the people responsible for 9/11...
You said, & quote, 'I love America, and I love the people in it. does this mean I am blindly devoted to it?'
My answer is yes, & I ask of Timothy McVeigh as, if you are true to your 'patriot's' beliefs, then you should love him too. But you don't so your view of a 'patriot' is either twisted or you're not a 'patriot'.
Little Skittle said:
it was a wake up call and we are now stronger because of it...
Yeah, I already said it was a wake up call but like I said, it is one that's going unheeded as America continues to fuck around in the Middle East. Following 9/11 America's idea of unity may be stronger, but due to the policies that followed, America is now poorer in finance & rights & more hated than ever - if this equals stronger then you are correct.
Little Skittle said:
u cant generalize an entire nation of people
I would like you to specify where I 'generalized'? That said, there is nothing wrong with 'generalization' as long as it has some basis.
Little Skittle said:
another generalization "americas rape, murder.....". you act like every single american has committed those crimes. like every person in america deserves to die. i am not blinkered, ignorant, or a redneck, but i am a patriot. tell me....do i deserve to die for loving the country that i live in?
What the fuck? You do realize that America is a country don't you? So when I speak on America's past or present I am not saying you did that.
That said, America would like to be known as a democracy so it's actions are should reflect it's people's wishes. By mentioning some of America's actions, both past & present, I was infoming you why I have no love for America - a by-product of which is that I have little love for Americans who contribute to America's actions ie. those who support Bush etc.
Might I remind you I was only asked by you to defend how I can 'say this stuff' with a clear conscience because you got one of my comments twisted where you thought I was saying I was going to laugh when you died but what I had actually said was that I would pity you for your uselessness ie. helplessness & blindness etc.
As for you reiterating that you're a patriot, like I've already stated, either your idea of what constitutes a 'patriot' is wrong, or you are not a 'patriot' (by way of your own idea of a 'patriot')
Btw, my Osama comment showed your hypocrisy, my Arab comment showed your ignorance - congratulations you are an American!
Do
you deserve to die? I don't know you so I can't say when, where & how you deserve to die but answer a few questions for me & I may be able to give you an answer.
Please give reasons why;
1. Did you vote for Bush?
2. Do you support the war in Iraq?
3. As a follow-on of question 2, was America right to disregard the UN's wishes?
4. Do you recognize America's hypocrisy of the past & in the present? (eg. Cuba/Soviet Union/Turkey situation, the supression of free speech or the 'unknown' that is Guantanamo Bay)
5. Do you condone America's betrayal of their Iraqi allies in 1991?