The Iranian Suicide Bombers vs. The American Crusaders

#21
Jokerman said:
What is this idiot talking about? Most Iranians would welcome a US invasion; they like us. They hate their leaders. Anyway, Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again unless directly attacked. We have no extra troops and no money for it.
Try reading the article:

The Iranians, unlike the Iraqis, have always been willing to die for their country. In the Iran-Iraq War (1980-89) thousands of Iranians volunteered to charge across Iraqi minefields, knowing they were going to die. It scared the Hell out of the Iraqis. They threw everything at those crazy Persian suicide charges, even poison gas. And the Iranians just kept coming. If you want a more complete account of that war, read my column, "The War Nobody Watched" in eXile #178. The short version is simple: Iranians are brave, determined people. Don't mess with them.

Of course all the NeoCon crazies are peddling the old story that "once we invade, the people will rally to the cause of freedom."

Yeah. Just like they did in Iraq. If we couldn't get people on our side after deposing a monster like Saddam, what chance do you think we have of winning hearts and minds in Iran? The kids in Iran are pissed off at the way the old Mullahs won't let 'em rock and roll, but the idea that they'll support an American invasion because they're bored is totally insane. It's like imagining that the kids in Footloose would've backed a Soviet invasion of Nebraska because John Lithgow wouldn't let them hold school dances.

The argument between Mullahs and kids in Iran is a classic family fight. And you know what happens when some intruder crashes in on the middle of one of those: the whole family unites in about a millisecond and tears him apart.

The Iranians already hate us. They have since 1953, when the CIA staged a coup to get rid of a popular Lefty Prime Minister, Mossadeq. Way back in the 70s, when most of the world still kinda liked us, crowds in Tehran chanted "Marg bar Amrika," "Death to America."
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Maybe that's due to the fact that American civilians have never felt the pain of being occupied & those who have felt something close (the older generations of blacks that were severely oppressed) don't make up the armed forces & so what you're left with is an army who cannot relate to the enemy's feelings - a weakness.
It's got more to do with religion than anything else. If you could die honorably and be rewarded in the afterlife, and take a few of your enemies with you, wouldn't you?

It's not about being oppressed, otherwise these 'fierce warriors' would've pussed-out months ago.
 
#22
CoolWaterz said:
shut the fuck up. all you do is defend anything arab and post nothing more nothing less. Your opinion on anything subjective is taken with a grain of salt
Persians (Iranians) are not Arab; they don't even speak Arabic, they speak Farsi (Parsi).
 
#23
devils_advok8 said:
seems like I've touched a nerve.
nah i dont want war i dont want shit i just wanna enjoy my life. Fuck iran fuck it all man im gona die anyways why worry about IRAN before i do. I just think that Iran was agreater direct threat to my country than Iraq ever was. I also think Iranian are much more unhappy living under the ayatollah than iraqi's were living under sadaam. So i criticize my country just as much. FUck the world. let us all blow each other to hell because humans are the worst pieces of shit with the most developed brain of any species. Times like these, id rather be a dog. I feel nothing but contempt in my heart for human beings. like a war with iran or iraq or syria has makes any difference in what has been going on with humans since we were concieved. Humans are the most disgusting species on earth let us all blow each other into nonexistence. My dog has more compassion and a kinder heart than any human being. Im so drunk and i have nothing but contempt for my so called more evolved intellect.
 
#25
Dryhus said:
It's got more to do with religion than anything else. If you could die honorably and be rewarded in the afterlife, and take a few of your enemies with you, wouldn't you?

It's not about being oppressed, otherwise these 'fierce warriors' would've pussed-out months ago.
I would've mentioned the religious aspect, but didn't want to be drawn into an argument on the merits of Islam & Christianity - I recognize your point though.

But although religion is a major factor don't overlook oppression, there are numerous examples throughout history where oppression has led to people becoming toughened & whimsical about death.
 
#26
Jokerman said:
What is this idiot talking about? Most Iranians would welcome a US invasion; they like us. They hate their leaders. Anyway, Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again unless directly attacked. We have no extra troops and no money for it.
uh i must have been asleep when iraq attacked usa. you got a link? btw you must be smokin some shit if you think they would welcome an invasion
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#27
LL COOL PAC said:
uh i must have been asleep when iraq attacked usa.
You must also have been asleep when you read what I wrote and missed the word again: Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again...
 
#30
Jokerman said:
You must also have been asleep when you read what I wrote and missed the word again: Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again...
once is bad enough lol cuase you know breaking international law is generally a bad thing. the first rule of a strike is you cannot attack a country unless it is A DIRECT threat to you. hence the crock-pile of shit they force fed the americans regarding wmd
 
#31
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
^
Hahahahahah
why are you laughing? ever been to iran? exactly !
u'd be against the irany regime in no time

its ironic how all the arabs on the board speak good about countries like iran, iraq, saudi arabia... etc.
but they dont actually live there anymore (most likely their family escaped the horror or they are from a more liberal arab nation) - if they'd live there they wouldnt have the liberty to come to this board, to listen music or to have the lifestyle they're living now. if u wanna critize me on this point, just remember that if u were in iran and u'd criticize it could cost u ur head.
 
#32
^ how do you justify the fact that more people have died in iraq as a result of the american occupation than died under sadaam. admitedly there are alot of issues in the middle east but there is day to day life which is generally ok. you cannot argue with the fact that if iraq did not have oil it would not have been important enough for the usa to take notice- thats just a basic given fact
 
#35
Jokerman said:
You must also have been asleep when you read what I wrote and missed the word again: Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again...
As incredible as it sounds to the left-wingers, Jokerman speaks the truth.
 

Glockmatic

Well-Known Member
#38
according to the Bush Doctrine...

A policy of pre-emptive war, should the US or its allies be threatened by terrorists or by rogue states that are engaged in the production of weapons of mass destruction.
The right for the US to pursue unilateral military action when acceptable multi-lateral solutions cannot be found.
The policy that "United States has, and intends to keep, military strengths beyond challenge", indicating the US intends to take actions as necessary to continue its status as the world's sole military superpower.
A policy of actively promoting democracy and freedom in all regions of the world.
From what i've heard on the news, Iran and North Korea seem to be growing threats to the US.
 

Kareem

Active Member
#39
Glockmatic said:
according to the Bush Doctrine...









From what i've heard on the news, Iran and North Korea seem to be growing threats to the US.

nah only Iran until they discover oil in North Korea n the year 2532 when Geroge Bush Jr. the 90th takes office an resumes his families evil legacy
 
#40
feichen said:
why are you laughing? ever been to iran? exactly !
u'd be against the irany regime in no time

its ironic how all the arabs on the board speak good about countries like iran, iraq, saudi arabia... etc.
but they dont actually live there anymore (most likely their family escaped the horror or they are from a more liberal arab nation) - if they'd live there they wouldnt have the liberty to come to this board, to listen music or to have the lifestyle they're living now. if u wanna critize me on this point, just remember that if u were in iran and u'd criticize it could cost u ur head.
What am I laughing at? Erm, perhaps the fact that something really funny was posted.

In case you don't know, 'liberation' is America's standard reason behind which their true agenda hides.

I never said I was for or against those current in control of Iran which subsequently means almost everything you typed here is BULLSHIT!

If you want to speak your mind - speak it. But don't try & make out you are answering something that I said when in fact what you posted has no relevance.
 

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