The Iranian Suicide Bombers vs. The American Crusaders

#1
http://www.exile.ru/2005-January-27/war_nerd.html

An excerpt:

Iran is scarier than Iraq in every way you can name. First of all, it's physically way bigger, three times the size of Iraq. The population is 65 million, nearly three times as many as Iraq. The Iranians are young, too. Their birthrate is way down now, around 2 kids per woman, but back in the Khomeini years it was one of the highest in the world. So right now, the Iranian population has a demographic profile that's a military planner's dream: not too many little kids to take care of, but a huge pool of fighting-age men -- about 18 million.


"Go War!" Bush the Yale cheerleader

And it won't be just young, fit men fighting us. Thanks to the invention of the suicide car bomb, guerrilla commanders will have someplace to send 70 year old volunteers: down to the garage to pick up a Plymouth packed full of fertilizer bomb. You don't have to be young to put the pedal to the metal.

The insurgents' DMV test will be real simple: "OK, Grandpa, can you make out the silhouette of a Bradley or Humvee, and aim your car at it?" Do that and you pass. They hand you the keys, and you get a quick, painless martyr's exit. Everybody will want to get in on the fun: Grandpa, Grandma, even the cripples, with specially adapted pedals so they can chin-pilot their car bombs into our patrols.

The suicide car bomb is a good example of why I don't worship hardware like most war fans do. These cars are actually no-tech guided surface-to-surface cruise missiles--and damn effective. We've found that out the hard way. All it takes is a driver who's willing to die for the pleasure of killing the enemy. Put him (or her) in an old jalopy stuffed with fertilizer and detonators and you've got a highly accurate, fire-and-forget missile.

They're especially deadly in urban warfare, because they're perfectly camouflaged till they actually blow up. And all for the price of a used car and a few bags of Miracle Gro.

Our cruise missiles are real showpieces, ultra hi-tech. They can be launched from subs, surface ships, planes and ground launchers. They can guide themselves over hundreds of miles, they cost millions apiece (usually hundreds of times as much as the huts or sheds we aim them at)--but they're useless to us in Iraq, whereas the suicide car-bomb cruise missiles are hurting us every single day.

It's the software inside people's heads that wins wars nowadays. You hardware freaks are going to have to face that fact one of these days. And it's this brain-software that we're hopeless at programming. Iraq has proved pretty clearly we don't have a clue how to use the Middle-Eastern brain OS. In fact, we've actually done the impossible: reprogrammed the miserable, cowardly Iraqis into fierce warriors.

Remember Gulf War I? Remember those pitiful fags crawling up to our soldiers to surrender on their hands and knees, sobbing like babies? Two years of occupation by Bush's morons has turned those cowards into fearless kamikazes in Oldsmobiles.

So just imagine what the Iranians, the original Islamic suicide squads, will do when we invade. There'll be traffic jams, ten-mile backups, outside every US base, thousands of car bombers honking and changing lanes trying to get to the front of the line and make that final commute to Paradise. It'll be like the San Diego freeway on a Monday morning, except the fenderbenders will be a little more serious.
I think the war nerd offers some interesting insight on what could possibly happen if the US does invade Iran. Read the rest in the link above.
 

CalcuoCuchicheo

Little Miss Vixen
#3
When people talk about suicide bombers it makes me wonder what America has being doing all these years.

I mean, the Japs showed a long time ago that America had no idea how to deal with a suicidal enemy. And yet still, they cannot deal with it & if they try to fuck with Iran there will be oceans of blood to prove it.

I would expect more of the American military seeing as they are meant to be extremely advanced. Then again, war is a primitive game. Also, a lot American society is so geared towards materialism that you cannot expect their soldiers to understand the mentality of one who is willing to give up his life for a cause. Maybe that's due to the fact that American civilians have never felt the pain of being occupied & those who have felt something close (the older generations of blacks that were severely oppressed) don't make up the armed forces & so what you're left with is an army who cannot relate to the enemy's feelings - a weakness.

Anyways, I'll just end by saying, if the American Armed Forces enter Iran, I believe that few will leave & the bodybag count will be equally low unless the Americans draft a new regiment.... maybe the 'body part' collectors.....
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#5
What is this idiot talking about? Most Iranians would welcome a US invasion; they like us. They hate their leaders. Anyway, Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again unless directly attacked. We have no extra troops and no money for it.
 

CalcuoCuchicheo

Little Miss Vixen
#6
In his most recent offering, Commissar Blankley opines that investigative reporter Seymour Hersh committed "espionage" by publishing a detailed expose of the Bush administration’s plans and preparations for war with Iran. According to Hersh, the administration has been conducting pre-war covert operations inside Iran. Those operations allegedly are being carried out through the Pentagon, rather than by the CIA, in order to avoid congressional oversight. Citing anonymous defense and intelligence sources, Hersh predicts that as many as ten nations might be on the list of possible U.S. military targets.

Many neo-conservative (or, more accurately put, neo-Trotskyite) commentators have dismissed Hersh’s account as ideologically inspired speculation. The Pentagon has done likewise. But Blankley suggests, in all seriousness, that the veteran reporter – who compiled an impressive track record with a recent string of scoops regarding Abu Ghraib and related outrages – should be arraigned, and face possible execution, as an enemy spy.

Blankley’s suggestion fits perfectly into his long-established Soviet-style worldview, in which the people are accountable to the state, rather than the reverse. If what Hersh wrote is accurate – and Blankley appears to believe that it is – then trying him for espionage would tacitly recognize that the Bush administration regards the U.S. people as the enemy from whom such information must be hidden.


Just for you Jokerman. It appears there are many who believe Bush does plan to invade Iran. Not saying he is going to just that, maybe you don't know what America is planning any more than Dryhus.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#7
Like I said, unless directly invaded or provoked. I'm sure we have contingency plans to invade Canada, Mexico and Great Britian. If not, we need to have them.
 

CalcuoCuchicheo

Little Miss Vixen
#8
American paranoia.....I wonder how much it costs the taxpayer a year?

And don't say that it's worth it to give the American people confidence in their safety, because 9/11 happened, & I'm pretty sure most Americans fear another attack of it's kind. And if you don't fear it - you should.

The crazy Christians are telling the truth for once when they scream, 'Judgement Day is coming!' It is, only Judgement Day won't be televised - it'll be live.

Just like those fireballs in the sky, 704 years to the day after Stirling Bridge.....
 
#9
Jokerman said:
What is this idiot talking about? Most Iranians would welcome a US invasion; they like us. They hate their leaders. Anyway, Bush has no intentions of invading anyone again unless directly attacked. We have no extra troops and no money for it.
Jokerman, you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
#11
^how about you ask any Irani on this board (who lives in Iran) if he liked the US or anything that had to do with it?It amazes me where some people here get their info from.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#12
Young Iranians are dressing like the West, they are illegally putting up satellite dishes on their houses so they can watch American TV, and they are surfing the US internet. They like what they see and they are angry they don't have those things. Guess who they blame? Their leaders. They have no sympathy for the founders of the revolution. Twenty-five years of fundamentalist restrictions have driven them into the best would-be US citizens in the Middle East. We don't have to invade; they will eventually do it for us. They are our al-Queda network.

I just hope Syria goes totally Islamic too. In time, that'll be another win for the US.


Here's an interesting read:

Conversation With Khomeini

The ayatollah's grandson calls for a U.S. invasion of Iran.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2089329
 
#20
Jokerman said:
I just hope Syria goes totally Islamic too. In time, that'll be another win for the US.
A couple of years after Patriot Act v10 is passed im sure the good people of the USA will revolt and rename it the Islamic Republic of United States, IRUS for short:0

TBH i would not be surprised by anything that the Bush administarion does. I wouldnt be surpised if there were concentration camps,(guantanamo comes to mind) where prisoners are tortured and killed (abu ghraib) or if muslims had to wear an yello crsent on their clothing, wait a minute that wont be necessary, all their phones are tapped, postage and their emails and internet activites are all scanned. When entering the country they are questioned searched harrassed in some cases, deported to an arab country for torture. And with the fine media organisations such as FOcks propogating the idealogy of the furher even our beloved Adolf will be turning green in his grave. Bush is suceeding where he failed.

As for Iran, although people may think that the US army may be overstretching, thesame things were said after Aghanistan when rumours of Iraq started flying about. People said it was too soon, that they hadnt finished the job in Afghanistan, that they couldnt afford it, not enough troops etc etc. They wont be facing a rag tag army like the taliban. Well we all know what happened after that.

Iran is a differnet cup of tea from Iraq. Firstly they dont have a leader like saddam, and despite what some may think is quite liberal towards the treatments of its own peoples. Depsite this there is unrest amongst the younger generations who would like to see a capitalistic state where religion and politcis are sperated. Irans army will probably not turn like Iraqs did, however younger Iranians may see it as an opportunity to overthrow the governemnt and turn against the army itself by assisting the americans. A friend of mines who fled from Iran told me the reason he left was because he had to do military service which he didnt want to do. So a lot of youngsters will have military training of some sort.

In my opinin Bush can go ahead and invade iran if he likes, and continue his crusade. Because the bigger the crusade the biger the resistance. And one day it will lead to the downfall of the US. I just hope Im around to smoke a blunt that day.
 

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