Terri Schiavo Dies

Duke

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#21
Minardi said:
Im actually really mad as im writing this, not about her dying, but the way she died makes me mad.

Its sad without a doubt that she died, but i respect her husbands decision, however the way she died makes no sense for me...

They can kill murderers humane on deathrow, but starve a person to death without them really knowing wether or not this person can think and feel pain...
True. But could you even begin to imagine the horrible, horrible theaters that would be made in the whole US if someone even mentioned giving the poor woman a shot to die. Hahah, all hell would break loose.
 
#22
Plus put yourself in the position of the person who would have to administer the injection....i wouldnt want that on my mind!

I hate the way she died, but i do think it was the only way in which she should have been left to die.
peace
MX!
 
#23
one mc on dj said:
Look you fucking punk you didn't have to say what my understanding of this situation is asshole..Im so sick of posting in here cuz everytime I just state my fucking opinion there is 1 lil fucker that has got to outsmart me or some 1 else..oh yeah great :thumb: Look we don't have to agree just let it go if you think this and that I am ok with that..Shit...The reason I am saying this is cuz I don't wanna fuck this thread up too much when I kinda already know we are not going to agree so I'll save you some waiting time by telling you that I will leave this thread even a lil bit pissed but I am cool with that.......


peace

I have to agree. This board is filled with people who try too hard to sound smart, it's so obvious. That's why I rarely post here anymore. There are so many other boards that have more maturing acting people on there site. You're not fooling anyone people, you're 18 years old with no college experience and flip burgers for a living :)
 

Glockmatic

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#24
Minardi said:
Im actually really mad as im writing this, not about her dying, but the way she died makes me mad.

Its sad without a doubt that she died, but i respect her husbands decision, however the way she died makes no sense for me...

They can kill murderers humane on deathrow, but starve a person to death without them really knowing wether or not this person can think and feel pain...
she was bulimic, its the way she would've wanted to go
 
#26
MX Red said:
Plus put yourself in the position of the person who would have to administer the injection....i wouldnt want that on my mind!

I hate the way she died, but i do think it was the only way in which she should have been left to die.
peace
MX!
Wouldn't you feel the same guilt if you had to remove her feeding tube? If they'd given her an injection, at least the doctor would have known she'd have a (relatively) quick and painless death free from suffering.
 

Glockmatic

Well-Known Member
#27
removing her feeding tube allowed nature to take its course.

Pain? Pain is a sensation for the conscious, and cancer patients who were starved to death said that they were in a state of euphoria towards the end.
 
#30
this shit is going too far, i heard on the news they're gonna be going to court about whether they bury her or cremate her remains........each side is too selfish to just let her rest in peace
 
#31
Illuminattile said:
Wouldn't you feel the same guilt if you had to remove her feeding tube? If they'd given her an injection, at least the doctor would have known she'd have a (relatively) quick and painless death free from suffering.
Exactly, and if they can give prisoners these injections done by doctors why not give it to someone who has been forced to die slow over 14 days by the judge...
 
#32
Duke said:
True. But could you even begin to imagine the horrible, horrible theaters that would be made in the whole US if someone even mentioned giving the poor woman a shot to die. Hahah, all hell would break loose.
yeah now they have a case where a woman has been starved to death.

even animals get threated better, i never heard about dogs getting starved to death because they couldnt tell wether they wanted to live with a thorn in thier paw or not... they just give the injection... (i know this looks like a stupid examble, but it does show a point)
 
#33
Btw i was almost put in a situation like this when my father layed on his deathbed, about if we wanted to pull the plug or not, luckily he survived like 3 months more after that, and later died naturally, but he was in a position where he couldnt answer, and later told me about how he overheard the doctors speaking about it from his bed (when we thought he was far away), and he didnt want to die like that.

what i wanna say by this is if people havent specified what they want CLEARLY, then dont do nothing, or atleast do it in a humane way... How the fuck can a person who doesnt even see the womans family control her life?? to me thats the US court system in a nutshell.
 
#34
I'm glad she died

Dont get it twisted tho, im not sayin "I'm glad she died cuz she's sufferin so much, she doesn't want to live", I'm just glad cuz I'm a sick person :)
 
#36
Minardi said:
Btw i was almost put in a situation like this when my father layed on his deathbed, about if we wanted to pull the plug or not, luckily he survived like 3 months more after that, and later died naturally, but he was in a position where he couldnt answer, and later told me about how he overheard the doctors speaking about it from his bed (when we thought he was far away), and he didnt want to die like that.

what i wanna say by this is if people havent specified what they want CLEARLY, then dont do nothing, or atleast do it in a humane way... How the fuck can a person who doesnt even see the womans family control her life?? to me thats the US court system in a nutshell.
But how many people specify, in writing, whether or not they'd want to be sustained by life support or a feeding tube or whatever? The courts determined that it was her wish to die. I'm not saying they were right to come to that conclusion or not, but that's where the contention should lie. It shouldn't be "it's unethical" or "it's evil" or "it's blasphemous" or anything like that. You have to determine whether or not she would want to live in the condition she was in, and the courts deicided that the evidence suggsted not.
 
#37
Zero Cool said:
As I've said I'm not entirely convinced that he did to kill her off for his own gain as I haven't been able to examine his side but from what I've seen so far:

1) Schiavo now has a common law wife and two children, with Terri continuing to live for an undefined period of time Schiavo would, both legally and morally, still be with two different women. This obviously caused tension and probably contributed on Schiavo's willingness to fight for Terri's "wishes" with her parents to the bitter end.

2) Apparently on Terri's death Schiavo recieves a substantial insurance down payment.

3) Claims have been made that Schiavo was an abusive husband and it was domestic violence which contributed to Terri's original heart attack.

I do not know the full facts of the case and don't want to judge Michael Schiavo until I do. But, the fact that he refused to allow the parents take care of Terri anon with no cost to himself and that he refused to let them be present during her final hours combined with the aforementioned claims against him make me wonder as to Michael Schiavo's real agenda in this case.

Agreed 100%.
I just don't see how he could stand there and say he loves this woman, was given over a million dollars to provide care for her, and spent not one red cent on doing so. IMO, it's a money thing with him. Had he given up his rights as her guardian, he would have lost the money given to him, to care for her, in a lawsuit as well as possibly losing the million plus dollar insurance policy. Now thanks to Terri's struggle and death, he, his new wife, and kids are living large. It's a damn shame how this man can call himself her husband and say how much he loves her yet he let her starve to death, all the while he's playing house with his new family. This infuriates me beyond belief. I'm not even gonna get into what all I think is going on with him because I'll get off on a tandem and never stop. I just think he could have at least had the common courtesy to let her family be with her as she took her last breath. Had it been me, there wouldn't have been an exchange of words like her brother did, I would've just beat his ass and called it a day. If I went to jail, oh well, least I would've had that satisfaction.
I hope she haunts his ass til his dying day. :mad:

RIP Terri :(
 

Glockmatic

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#39
Luv4Pac4Ever said:
Agreed 100%.
I just don't see how he could stand there and say he loves this woman, was given over a million dollars to provide care for her, and spent not one red cent on doing so. IMO, it's a money thing with him. Had he given up his rights as her guardian, he would have lost the money given to him, to care for her, in a lawsuit as well as possibly losing the million plus dollar insurance policy. Now thanks to Terri's struggle and death, he, his new wife, and kids are living large. It's a damn shame how this man can call himself her husband and say how much he loves her yet he let her starve to death, all the while he's playing house with his new family. This infuriates me beyond belief. I'm not even gonna get into what all I think is going on with him because I'll get off on a tandem and never stop. I just think he could have at least had the common courtesy to let her family be with her as she took her last breath. Had it been me, there wouldn't have been an exchange of words like her brother did, I would've just beat his ass and called it a day. If I went to jail, oh well, least I would've had that satisfaction.
I hope she haunts his ass til his dying day. :mad:

RIP Terri :(
$700,000 has been used for care, lawyers, and expert medical witnesses, to say he did nothing for her is complete bullshit. He studied to be a nurse to take care of her and was almost given a restraining order at a nursing home because he wanted to take care of her that much.

On Larry King, Michael said there is no life insurance, there is only $50,000 in her estate and he won't get a dime from that.

Cancer patients lose interest in eating near the end of their life, but we don't pump chemicals into them to kill them faster. Its a natural way to go, cancer patients also say that there is no pain towards the end, theres only euphoria.
 
#40
Glockmatic said:
Cancer patients lose interest in eating near the end of their life, but we don't pump chemicals into them to kill them faster. Its a natural way to go, cancer patients also say that there is no pain towards the end, theres only euphoria.
But if they wanted to die quickly and painlessly, do they not retain that right? I'm not saying Schiavo wanted/didn't want to die naturally. Her family implied that it was a terrible death ("you could see it in her eyes" type stuff), but then again, they would say that.
 

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