Humans Beings are a Disease?

#21
Prophet G said:
From the Matrix:

very mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague.

I love this quote from the movie becuz i believe its true. Anyone agree that we humans are a disease?
I also love that scene, and agree with it, we are a Cancer of this planet and I have been saying that for 8 years or more.
 

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#22
Harry_potter said:
I also love that scene, and agree with it, we are a Cancer of this planet and I have been saying that for 8 years or more.

Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Rukas said:
I dont really agree.

I think we are worse. A disease does not attack itself, a flu cell does not naturally want to destroy another flu cell. Diseases are systematic and the cells work as a part of a whole. They do not try to out do one another and have no ulterior motive other than the survival of the whole, not each individual.. Humans are not like this, they are selfish and want what is best for them individually or in a small group (family, business, etc), not what is best for the whole.

Humanity is however, by definition, a parasite.

"An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host."

We really contribute nothing to the survival of the planet, in that, our existence does not benefit the planets survival in anyway. Now this is not necessarily a negative thing, as the same can be said for any living creature on earth, and in fact the same can be said for the planet in the context of the universe.
 

Rukas

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#23
Harry_potter said:
I also love that scene, and agree with it, we are a Cancer of this planet and I have been saying that for 8 years or more.

Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Rukas said:
I dont really agree.

I think we are worse. A disease does not attack itself, a flu cell does not naturally want to destroy another flu cell. Diseases are systematic and the cells work as a part of a whole. They do not try to out do one another and have no ulterior motive other than the survival of the whole, not each individual.. Humans are not like this, they are selfish and want what is best for them individually or in a small group (family, business, etc), not what is best for the whole.

Humanity is however, by definition, a parasite.

"An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host."

We really contribute nothing to the survival of the planet, in that, our existence does not benefit the planets survival in anyway. Now this is not necessarily a negative thing, as the same can be said for any living creature on earth, and in fact the same can be said for the planet in the context of the universe.
 
#24
Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Just because your opinion differs, you cant claim he's wrong. We move from one area to another, consume every natural resource.. trees, oil, pollute the place til everythings gone or destroyed then we move to another area and do the samething as we multiply.. what is a familiar disease such as? A virus. Since our origin is not explained, then we are indeed just an organism similiar to the virus because our funtions relate.
 
#25
Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Just because your opinion differs, you cant claim he's wrong. We move from one area to another, consume every natural resource.. trees, oil, pollute the place til everythings gone or destroyed then we move to another area and do the samething as we multiply.. what is a familiar disease such as? A virus. Since our origin is not explained, then we are indeed just an organism similiar to the virus because our funtions relate.
 

Rukas

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#26
Prophet G said:
Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Just because your opinion differs, you cant claim he's wrong. We move from one area to another, consume every natural resource.. trees, oil, pollute the place til everythings gone or destroyed then we move to another area and do the samething as we multiply.. what is a familiar disease such as? A virus. Since our origin is not explained, then we are indeed just an organism similiar to the virus because our funtions relate.
Oh please, would you Agent Smith wannabes stop it already. I swear, if the Matrix didn’t say it none of you would have either. It’s a good quote, it makes you think, it probably makes you feel wise or reflective on humanity, but ultimately it is wrong.

That’s not an opinion either, it’s a fact. It is wrong. Humanity is not a virus.

Humanity is not infectious. Humanity does not attack and take over other organisms. A virus does. You can not be non human and then become human from infection. A dog will never be human no matter what humans do to it. Virus cells take over healthy cells, humans do not. A virus is systematic and all cells work in unison, humanity does not.

Humanity is not a virus, no matter how many times you say it to seem enlightened, humanity simply does not fit the definition of a virus.

But, like I said, humanity does fit the definition of a parasite. But I guess that quote is less cooler because it wasn’t in a big budget blockbuster movie.

False blockbuster movie quote > truth.
 

Rukas

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#27
Prophet G said:
Then youve been wrong for 8 years.

Just because your opinion differs, you cant claim he's wrong. We move from one area to another, consume every natural resource.. trees, oil, pollute the place til everythings gone or destroyed then we move to another area and do the samething as we multiply.. what is a familiar disease such as? A virus. Since our origin is not explained, then we are indeed just an organism similiar to the virus because our funtions relate.
Oh please, would you Agent Smith wannabes stop it already. I swear, if the Matrix didn’t say it none of you would have either. It’s a good quote, it makes you think, it probably makes you feel wise or reflective on humanity, but ultimately it is wrong.

That’s not an opinion either, it’s a fact. It is wrong. Humanity is not a virus.

Humanity is not infectious. Humanity does not attack and take over other organisms. A virus does. You can not be non human and then become human from infection. A dog will never be human no matter what humans do to it. Virus cells take over healthy cells, humans do not. A virus is systematic and all cells work in unison, humanity does not.

Humanity is not a virus, no matter how many times you say it to seem enlightened, humanity simply does not fit the definition of a virus.

But, like I said, humanity does fit the definition of a parasite. But I guess that quote is less cooler because it wasn’t in a big budget blockbuster movie.

False blockbuster movie quote > truth.
 
#28
Rukas said:
Oh please, would you Agent Smith wannabes stop it already. I swear, if the Matrix didn’t say it none of you would have either. It’s a good quote, it makes you think, it probably makes you feel wise or reflective on humanity, but ultimately it is wrong.

.
I read no further, your arrogance clouds all “wisdom”
And essentially calling me a liar :rolleyes::thumb:
 
#29
Rukas said:
Oh please, would you Agent Smith wannabes stop it already. I swear, if the Matrix didn’t say it none of you would have either. It’s a good quote, it makes you think, it probably makes you feel wise or reflective on humanity, but ultimately it is wrong.

.
I read no further, your arrogance clouds all “wisdom”
And essentially calling me a liar :rolleyes::thumb:
 
#30
Were talkin symbolically, not that humans are JUST like a virus. Our funtions are similar of a virus. We do not know our purpose in life, it is not defined. A virus has one function. To survive. In order to do so, it must consume that area it is created in then multiply and move onto another area. Is that not how we humans live? Our basic purpose in life is survival.

This isn't about who said the quote or what movie its from.. it's truth.
 
#31
Were talkin symbolically, not that humans are JUST like a virus. Our funtions are similar of a virus. We do not know our purpose in life, it is not defined. A virus has one function. To survive. In order to do so, it must consume that area it is created in then multiply and move onto another area. Is that not how we humans live? Our basic purpose in life is survival.

This isn't about who said the quote or what movie its from.. it's truth.
 

Rukas

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#36
Prophet G said:
Were talkin symbolically, not that humans are JUST like a virus. Our funtions are similar of a virus. We do not know our purpose in life, it is not defined. A virus has one function. To survive. In order to do so, it must consume that area it is created in then multiply and move onto another area. Is that not how we humans live? Our basic purpose in life is survival.

This isn't about who said the quote or what movie its from.. it's truth.

No you never said symbolically, you said, and this thread says, human beings are a virus. Harry Potter specifically said "we are a Cancer of this planet." No one in here said, symbolically we are this or symbolically we are that. Everyone is making statements that humanity is a virus, disease, or a cancer.

What Im telling you is that those statements are wrong. No, human beings are not a virus.

Sure we share some similarities but we also share similarities with fungus, that does not make us fungi does it? No.

Humanity is not a disease, the symbolism is flawed.

Humanity is a parasite if anything.

Harry_potter said:
I read no further, your arrogance clouds all “wisdom”
And essentially calling me a liar :rolleyes::thumb:
You call me arrogant yet you wont even read a post that disproves your argument?

And I didnt call you a liar, I said you were wrong. That is totally different.

Harry_potter said:
I just now read his post fully, and if he is serious and not just trying to stir the pot. Then SMH :(
What the fuck is SMH?
 

Rukas

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#37
Prophet G said:
Were talkin symbolically, not that humans are JUST like a virus. Our funtions are similar of a virus. We do not know our purpose in life, it is not defined. A virus has one function. To survive. In order to do so, it must consume that area it is created in then multiply and move onto another area. Is that not how we humans live? Our basic purpose in life is survival.

This isn't about who said the quote or what movie its from.. it's truth.

No you never said symbolically, you said, and this thread says, human beings are a virus. Harry Potter specifically said "we are a Cancer of this planet." No one in here said, symbolically we are this or symbolically we are that. Everyone is making statements that humanity is a virus, disease, or a cancer.

What Im telling you is that those statements are wrong. No, human beings are not a virus.

Sure we share some similarities but we also share similarities with fungus, that does not make us fungi does it? No.

Humanity is not a disease, the symbolism is flawed.

Humanity is a parasite if anything.

Harry_potter said:
I read no further, your arrogance clouds all “wisdom”
And essentially calling me a liar :rolleyes::thumb:
You call me arrogant yet you wont even read a post that disproves your argument?

And I didnt call you a liar, I said you were wrong. That is totally different.

Harry_potter said:
I just now read his post fully, and if he is serious and not just trying to stir the pot. Then SMH :(
What the fuck is SMH?
 
#38
For you to take our words literally amuses me.

it was not literal when Agent smith spoke them either, It is a philosophical metaphor

And you did imply that I was a liar, you said that if the matrix did not say it none of us would have either?

I am sure that comparison has been around for decades.

keep looking for that seven headed dragon.
 
#39
For you to take our words literally amuses me.

it was not literal when Agent smith spoke them either, It is a philosophical metaphor

And you did imply that I was a liar, you said that if the matrix did not say it none of us would have either?

I am sure that comparison has been around for decades.

keep looking for that seven headed dragon.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#40
How is my saying had the Matrix not said it none of you would have either label you a liar in any way?

How does posting someone a movie said make them a liar?

Its quite obvious the majority of the posts in here were literal.
 

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