God
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How can you ask how god, or the world is created, if you don't know what God is?
i say God is Emptyness, it's the only thing that existed before anything else, and the only thing that will be after everything is gone. Emptyness is what was there before you were born, and what happens after you die. it's the only thing that is no where and everywhere at the same time, the only thing that is not effected by time or space.
How was the world created? basically, the one thing common to everything in the world, living or not, is energy. So basically, we are all the same. Energy can be transformed into matter, and matter into energy. Energy can exist in emptyness. Creation is just the transformation of this energy from emptyness to matter...
it might sound that i m just tripping, but that's actualy based on eastern spirituality.
i say God is Emptyness, it's the only thing that existed before anything else, and the only thing that will be after everything is gone. Emptyness is what was there before you were born, and what happens after you die. it's the only thing that is no where and everywhere at the same time, the only thing that is not effected by time or space.
How was the world created? basically, the one thing common to everything in the world, living or not, is energy. So basically, we are all the same. Energy can be transformed into matter, and matter into energy. Energy can exist in emptyness. Creation is just the transformation of this energy from emptyness to matter...
it might sound that i m just tripping, but that's actualy based on eastern spirituality.
^kinda made me smile.
not because i think its stupid or anything, but in "gods army" for example, angel gabriel (christopher walken) basically says "hell is not that burning pit that youd imagine, its the emptiness, being banned from listening to god's voice". which i find very interesting. because to me, ending up in pure nothing is somehow scary.
not because i think its stupid or anything, but in "gods army" for example, angel gabriel (christopher walken) basically says "hell is not that burning pit that youd imagine, its the emptiness, being banned from listening to god's voice". which i find very interesting. because to me, ending up in pure nothing is somehow scary.
wtf
I wouldn't imagine that is easier. Without a "God" there are no answers to the specific question - the explanations are more complex and varied, the questions endless. Pinning it down to religion relieves the complexity because there is somewhat of an answer (right or wrong). Unless of course, people dont care to ask the question then it's a case of ignorance is bliss and that works for most of us.
For my part I believe we are limited by our scientific explanation of cause and effect - that is our interpretation of existence. Yet we are questioning something which I believe is beyond cause and effect - more complicated than that and therefore beyond our capacity to understand at this point in time. To be able to answer the question we would have to broaden our scope of perspective... it's like bending the spoon in the matrix, we have to first get to a point where we can say, there is no spoon. *rambling crap now* I'll shut up.
I wouldn't imagine that is easier. Without a "God" there are no answers to the specific question - the explanations are more complex and varied, the questions endless. Pinning it down to religion relieves the complexity because there is somewhat of an answer (right or wrong). Unless of course, people dont care to ask the question then it's a case of ignorance is bliss and that works for most of us.
For my part I believe we are limited by our scientific explanation of cause and effect - that is our interpretation of existence. Yet we are questioning something which I believe is beyond cause and effect - more complicated than that and therefore beyond our capacity to understand at this point in time. To be able to answer the question we would have to broaden our scope of perspective... it's like bending the spoon in the matrix, we have to first get to a point where we can say, there is no spoon. *rambling crap now* I'll shut up.
wtf
I kind of agree and disagree at the same time.
I agree that scope has a lot to do with it, Ill use mathematics as an example because its simple and applies to everything including cause and effect.
If you were to teach someone only ten numbers, 0 thru to 9, they would have no way to comprehend anything outside of those boundaries to begin with. How do you comprehend negative numbers, or 100, if all you know is 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9?
However, eventually you use what you have to understand and work out the rest. The number 100 can be explained as 4 lots of 5 lots of 5, which fits into the narrow scope.
I think in the same way we are, or will be, capable of understanding things like this in the future because we understand universal constants, we understand mathematics, which is the universal language, and everything relates to mathematics. Even God has to conform to mathematics, and anything that came before God has to as well.
So we have the tools, we have part of the puzzle, we just dont have the whole scope. But we can use our current scope to understand the greater scope.
Anyway, this is a rant now, so Ill stop it for now
I kind of agree and disagree at the same time.
I agree that scope has a lot to do with it, Ill use mathematics as an example because its simple and applies to everything including cause and effect.
If you were to teach someone only ten numbers, 0 thru to 9, they would have no way to comprehend anything outside of those boundaries to begin with. How do you comprehend negative numbers, or 100, if all you know is 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9?
However, eventually you use what you have to understand and work out the rest. The number 100 can be explained as 4 lots of 5 lots of 5, which fits into the narrow scope.
I think in the same way we are, or will be, capable of understanding things like this in the future because we understand universal constants, we understand mathematics, which is the universal language, and everything relates to mathematics. Even God has to conform to mathematics, and anything that came before God has to as well.
So we have the tools, we have part of the puzzle, we just dont have the whole scope. But we can use our current scope to understand the greater scope.
Anyway, this is a rant now, so Ill stop it for now
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