Fitna

Glockmatic

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What are you trying to argue with this? She lives in hell on Earth. Funny how Wiki doesnt mention the parts in her interview about Why she sent her sons to martyrdom. Shes right in saying Muslims should be very careful in killing innocent people, In her situation she feels that no isreali is innocent, when half of them live and occupy their land, humiliating them at the same time. Thats debateable
You're overlooking the fact of her son killing a bunch of STUDENTS who were STUDYING and she was celebrated that afterwards. She finds all jews as enemies and wants the islamic banner to be raised over jerusalem.

There were many backlashes against German civilians after the nazi era. Just like there were many japanese civilians butchered and murdered after the bombing of pearl harbour. You're living in denial. off the top of my head, I can recall hearing about a dozen innocent sikhs or hindus that were shot and killed just for looking like a person of Middle Eastern background after 911.
Dozens vs thousands dead in iraq alone. In 2007 there were 21 deaths from suicide bombers a day and 39 from gunfire/executions in Iraq.

Why do you mention 'sura 9 verse 5' and not the verses the come before and after? You should be open minded about this and read the entire Sura and quit with googling anti-Islamic sites.

This Sura speaks about the pagans that declared war on this new faith 'Islam' and wanted the head of the Prophet(p)

Shall i quote them for you?

[9:4] If the idol worshipers sign a peace treaty with you, and do not violate it, nor band together with others against you, you shall fulfill your treaty. GOD loves the righteous.

[9:6] If one of the idol worshipers sought safe passage with you, you shall grant him safe passage, so that he can hear the word of GOD, then send him back to his place of security. That is because they are people who do not know.

[9:7] How can the idol worshipers demand any pledge from GOD and from His messenger? Exempted are those who have signed a peace treaty with you at the Sacred Masjid. If they honor and uphold such a treaty, you shall uphold it as well. GOD loves the righteous.

Notice how these verses Speak of PEACE TREATIES

But if they refuse to make peace these following verses came down.

[9:12] If they violate their oaths after pledging to keep their covenants, and attack your religion, you may fight the leaders of paganism - you are no longer bound by your covenant with them - that they may refrain.

[9:13] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them?

SELF DEFENCE, thats all this Sura talks about. I dont know how that can be misintrepreted, It honestly cant, These extremists dont follow this blindly and attack people just for the hell of it. They're being provoked into doing what they do. It justifies self defence against islreali agression not necessarily by suicide bombings.
It justifies self defense against Israeli MILITARY, not school kids or bakers. Shooting Qassum rockets blindly into a civilian population is not self defense. Blowing yourself up in a bus full of people going to school or work is not self defense. Going into a theatre and holding people hostage is not self defense.

Yah i wouldnt doubt it, Not among Muslims though.... Not going to deny that lots of muslims dont follow the religion, no one is perfect.
You never know, a lot of young Iranian's seem to be less religious. We'll just have to see.
 

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