Auschwitz

[The.Menace]

There is a difference between "school can't teach you everything" and just ignorin this time in history class. Of couse somewhere self teachin starts but you have to know about the existence of a certain topic before you could start findin out more about it. And again. why wouldn't you talk in class about all these events? What do they teach? I'd really like to know that. What do they teach in history class that is so much more important that there ain't no time to talk about WWII?

 

[Rukas]

* 5.6–6.1 million Jews
* 3.5–6 million Slavic civilians
* 2.5–4 million POWs
* 1–1.5 million political dissidents
* 200 000–800 000 Roma & Sinti
* 200 000–300 000 handicapped
* 10 000–250 000 homosexuals
* 2 000 Jehovah's Witnesses

http://www.world-war-2.info/holocaust/

Ermmm.... Eleven million people were killed inthe Holocaust. Five million of these were non-Jewish. Three million were Polish Christians and Catholics.

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/poland.htm

Hitler:
"[Kill] without pity or mercy, all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need".

Heinrich Himmler:
"All Poles will disappear from the world.... It is essential that the great German people should consider it as its major task to destroy all Poles."

The Polish loss is the real forgotten Holocaust. Everytime Holywood or anyone makes a movie or anything bout the Holocaust its Jews this and Jews that. Not suprising considering that Jews run Holywood, they use the shit to their advantage for pity, and never make a mention of the other people that lost their lives, we used for slave labour, etc etc.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

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Talking on Hollywood & how they 'miss' things out. I always find it disgusting that they portray America as the 'heroes' who saved the day when not only were America in the war for selfish reasons, they didn't join until very late on & before then it had been Poles & French & the rest of the European countries who had been laying their lives down to, at times, only slow the Nazi war machine.

The ill-equipped who marched to their deaths for their country should not be forgotten & should be more celeberated than the financially driven Johnny-come-lately who was supplying the facists in the first place & who always had the means to stop them.

No matter how many Eastern Europeans, French, British, Scandanavians, Belgians, Dutch etc. died, one casket draped in the American flag seems to automatically make America the martyr.

 

[Illuminattile]

There is a difference between "school can't teach you everything" and just ignorin this time in history class. Of couse somewhere self teachin starts but you have to know about the existence of a certain topic before you could start findin out more about it. And again. why wouldn't you talk in class about all these events? What do they teach? I'd really like to know that. What do they teach in history class that is so much more important that there ain't no time to talk about WWII?

Obviously they teach WWII, but they can't spend all their time on it and thus can't go into complete detail on it.

There's a lot of history to teach.

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

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Talking on Hollywood & how they 'miss' things out. I always find it disgusting that they portray America as the 'heroes' who saved the day when not only were America in the war for selfish reasons, they didn't join until very late on & before then it had been Poles & French & the rest of the European countries who had been laying their lives down to, at times, only slow the Nazi war machine.

The ill-equipped who marched to their deaths for their country should not be forgotten & should be more celeberated than the financially driven Johnny-come-lately who was supplying the facists in the first place & who always had the means to stop them.

No matter how many Eastern Europeans, French, British, Scandanavians, Belgians, Dutch etc. died, one casket draped in the American flag seems to automatically make America the martyr.

I agree ! i love the way tom hanks wins the war !!!

 

[The.Menace]

Obviously they teach WWII, but they can't spend all their time on it and thus can't go into complete detail on it.

There's a lot of history to teach.

i never was taught about this at school , maybe it was a too horiffic a thing to be taught , and like i said didnt know bout it till i read the article in the paper

Obviously they don't, at least not everywhere. Of course you can't go very deep but come on. A couple of guys here say they weren't teached about this in school and that's just wrong, I can't believe that.

 

[tupacmansion]

I am honestly saddened by what happenened in Auschwits and by the deaths of so many innocent people. But I feel that various Jews are attempting to take advantage of this day. They are trying to legitimise the massacres that are taking place in Palestine. I was listening to the radio the other day and all the presenter was saying is that "we can't let this happen again, we need a homeland, we need to protect that homeland by any means neccesary"
fair enough he did't say it directly, but hes implying that its orite to kill innocent people as long as its done by the poor Israelis.

 

[The.Menace]

But I feel that various Jews are attempting to take advantage of this day

I agree, even if this is a damn small path to go u know. But I agree. It was terrible what happend to the Jews people but you can't use this forever as an excuse. It's like this these times. If you say something negativ about Israel, any form of critic comment, they'll just call you a Nazi and you lost. That simple.

 

[Glockmatic]

i find the "Never Again" motto they used was suppose to mean "Never Again (for white people)". Darfur anyone?

 

[tupacmansion]

I agree, even if this is a damn small path to go u know. But I agree. It was terrible what happend to the Jews people but you can't use this forever as an excuse. It's like this these times. If you say something negativ about Israel, any form of critic comment, they'll just call you a Nazi and you lost. That simple.

This radio presenter was like " Im scared as a jew living in the UK, I wanna go to America where im safe ". He was tryin to say that the UK media is biased against the jews. Thats bullshit. Also he continued the conversation by saying " most muslim women who wear hijaabs are oppresed and they have taken islam to the extreme". Maybe it was their own choice. I mean no one says that nuns are oppressed when the dress up in theis christian gear. Also orthodox Jews dress up differently. Thats fully accepted, b'coz they aint muslim. I think people shud just allow everyone to live their own lives, aslong as they don't intefere with anyone elses business.

 

[Morris]

Everytime Holywood or anyone makes a movie or anything bout the Holocaust its Jews this and Jews that. Not suprising considering that Jews run Holywood, they use the shit to their advantage for pity, and never make a mention of the other people that lost their lives, we used for slave labour, etc etc.

What a total crock of shit. I bet you can't even list one example of a "Jew made" program about the Holocaust that doesn't mention the exact number of deaths or the fact that gypsies and handicapped people etc. were also part of the Holocaust?

And what exactly do these Hollywood Jews hope to accomplish with other people's pity anyway?

Talking on Hollywood & how they 'miss' things out. I always find it disgusting that they portray America as the 'heroes' who saved the day

You're mad that American movies glorify American soldiers in World War II? Are you serious? You don't want this country to make movies glorifying their veterans? I think it's fair to assume that England and Russia make World War II movies about British and Russian troops all the time.

If you want a comprehensive World War II movie, the damn thing would be a marathon.

when not only were America in the war for selfish reasons, they didn't join until very late on & before then it had been Poles & French & the rest of the European countries who had been laying their lives down to, at times, only slow the Nazi war machine.

The United States officially joined the war in 1941, and the war (which started in 39) ended in 45. I wouldn't say that was a late entry. Besides, the United States assisted the Allies from the very beginning. American pilots flew in the RAF during the 1940 Battle of Britain.

And since the United States was the only nation to face a 2 front war except for Germany throughout World War II, I think efforts to dismiss its war effort are completely farcical.

The ill-equipped who marched to their deaths for their country should not be forgotten & should be more celeberated than the financially driven Johnny-come-lately who was supplying the facists in the first place & who always had the means to stop them.

I have no idea where you got the idea that the United States or any Allied nation (except for the Soviets) supplied the fascists.

And I definitely don't understand why you think anybody had the means to stop them. Germany had the strongest military on the planet: it required the entire efforts of the Soviets and Brits and over 250,000 Americans to fight the Germans for 6 years to force their surrender.

No matter how many Eastern Europeans, French, British, Scandanavians, Belgians, Dutch etc. died, one casket draped in the American flag seems to automatically make America the martyr.

If you don't want American based movies to glorify Americans, the only thing you can do is move. But then you'll get sick of British based movies glorifying the Brits too.

 

[Morris]

If you say something negativ about Israel, any form of critic comment, they'll just call you a Nazi and you lost. That simple.

How many times have you been called a Nazi in this forum when you post something negative about Israel?

This radio presenter was like " Im scared as a jew living in the UK, I wanna go to America where im safe ". He was tryin to say that the UK media is biased against the jews. Thats bullshit.

Outlets like the BBC do present clear biases against Israel. Also, there has been a general increase in the number of anti-Semitic based assaults throughout Europe in the 21st century. The media shares a lot of blame for that.

 

[Dryhus]

The Polish loss is the real forgotten Holocaust. Everytime Holywood or anyone makes a movie or anything bout the Holocaust its Jews this and Jews that. Not suprising considering that Jews run Holywood, they use the shit to their advantage for pity, and never make a mention of the other people that lost their lives, we used for slave labour, etc etc.

I understand that millions of Slavs lost their lives in the Holocaust, but claiming that the Jews run Hollywood is absurd. I think it's more accurate to say that American Jews are very prominent in the entertainment industry. Jews are overrepresented in most aspects of American culture: It's called hard work.

I'm sure you knew that already, though. Besides, if Jews actually ran Hollywood Mel Gibson wouldn't be half as rich as he is now.

 

[The.Menace]

How many times have you been called a Nazi in this forum when you post something negative about Israel?

When did I say that it happens in here? In fact it never happend to me but let me explain....
Believe me or not, in Europe this is so a sensetive topic that jews sometimes take advantage of it playin the "Nazi card". Like if a politican says that germany payed enough money now for the crimes that happend, jews just call him a nazi without any discussion about the topic and cause everybody is so scared you know, it's a simple way to win....of like someone else said before, they take the events of the past as legimentation for all their actions against Palestina. This is for me "playin the nazi card".

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

Besides, the United States assisted the Allies from the very beginning. American pilots flew in the RAF during the 1940 Battle of Britain

'Assisted'? Yeah, I suppose they did but you convientely left out that the Allies paid for this assistance & paid heavily. America wasn't doing anything that didn't benefit them.

As for the American pilots who flew in the Battle of Britain, I will salute them as men of true heart who fought for righteous reasons.

And since the United States was the only nation to face a 2 front war except for Germany throughout World War II, I think efforts to dismiss its war effort are completely farcical.

Yeah, because America was on the frontline & it's civilians were getting slaughtered. Fact is, America flattens then sends in troops & I was praising those who knew they would die if they didn't flee but still stood regardless, just to slow down the Nazis.

I have no idea where you got the idea that the United States or any Allied nation (except for the Soviets) supplied the fascists.

America was doing business with Germany right up until they joined the war. An act was passed to stop American businesses trading with Germany, I think it's name was something imaginative like the 'Trading With The Enemy Act'

it required the entire efforts of the Soviets and Brits and over 250,000 Americans to fight the Germans for 6 years to force their surrender.

Remind me again, how many soldiers did America have at it's disposal & how much equipment did it have that it could have given to the Allies rather hindering the Alleis war effort by asking for payment?

Also, America wasn't fighting for six years.

If you don't want American based movies to glorify Americans, the only thing you can do is move. But then you'll get sick of British based movies glorifying the Brits too.

I live in Britain & while I choose to avoid these Hollywood movies, American propaganda sickens me nonetheless.

 

[tupacmansion]

Outlets like the BBC do present clear biases against Israel. Also, there has been a general increase in the number of anti-Semitic based assaults throughout Europe in the 21st century. The media shares a lot of blame for that.

What about the increase in anti-isamic assaults etc.. I personaly believe that it is alot worse than anti-semitism. Yet that is barely reported.

 

[The.Menace]

What about the increase in anti-isamic assaults etc.. I personaly believe that it is alot worse than anti-semitism. Yet that is barely reported.

worse? I don't think so. wrong? Yeah.

 

[Illuminattile]

worse? I don't think so. wrong? Yeah.

I think by 'worse' he meant more widespread.

 

[tupacmansion]

worse? I don't think so. wrong? Yeah.

By worse I mean that they occur more often, but they never seem to make the news. However anything related to jews always hits the headlines. This could be due to the fact that jews more or less run the media.

 

[feichen]

i still know people who are waiting for their money (and they are just repaying the money of the golden teeth, jewels and clothes that were stolen from the jews).

you say not everybody knew about the camps, but how can you not smell the bodies being burned? how can u not notice that all of a sudden all the jews in a city are gone? they DID know, because everybody collaborated (otherwise they could've been next)

thats why in germany nowadays you cant say the sentance: "Wir haben es nicht gewissen" (we didn't know)