are black people owed reparations????

are black people owed reparations???

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#23
if the need for reparations is that critical i ,personally, would also like to see it comin from the africans (in africa) that pillaged our ancestors on the slave ship in the first place. and as someone else mentioned before their are the native americans and other minorites that were also enslaved. the above example shows you can't just pin this towards blacks folks. in other words this is an assload of money we're talkin bout. and a whole lot of finger pointin to do.

personally, i'd rather have martin luther kings dream come to life, for all of us. that's the only reparation i want. fuck a check. shit, it's not like the man asked for much.


buuuuuuut, since that's not going to happen anytime soon, i'm gonna leave the decision up to them. i don't give a fuck, it's their conscious bothering them, not mine.
 

_carmi

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#24
no. why should they have reparation when other races didnt get it? if we wanna get reparation to every crime we did, the list will be long.

it happened. now its abolished. dont live in the past.
 
#26
I voted yes but it's impossible for something like this to ever happen. Btw, I'm listening 'The Black Market' right now and I heard this...

One hand wash the other, both wash the face
Now real recognize real, homey stay in your place
What about the, revolutionaries given they lives
My souls on ice, it's like I got, blood in my eye
The price of freedom is bleeding, I ain't comitting no treason
Why they hate my black skin, god, give me a reason
My mother said I'm an angel, and then say I'm a monster
I grew up in the hood environment, lived amongst the thugs
And killas, the gangstas, the streets, they feel us
Ain't nothin' realer than the feeling, when you loving yourself
Just be a man, take a stand, don't be beggin' for help, help
My regulation is building my black nation
I'm running out of my patience, you owe us some reparations

Guns blowin', blood flowin', I ain't tryin' to be waiting
Out of control, sellin' our souls to Satan
Fakin' Satans fatin', Larry Davis
Tragedy Khadafi verse in song 'Audobon Ballroom'.
 

VENOMOUS

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#27
marc said:
Which is scandalous.

No, there shouldnt be any reperations. Did German soldiers get reperations after being held for up to 10 years in Russian prison/death camps? No. Did Muslims get reperations from Christianity because of the Crusades? No.

There is no thing such as collective guilt! Why should I pay for reparations for victims of the 3rd Reich? My family was decimated because of the regime too. My relatives were blacklisted because they were part of the trade union or democratic parties.
Then why should US Americans pay for slavery? It would only be a valid arguement if there were slaves still alive.
so y do indians have reservevation. or when the japs atttack pearl harbor and americans started incarcerating japs in america they where reimburst to some degree.Every action has a reaction.
 

Glockmatic

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#29
VENOMOUS said:
so y do indians have reservevation. or when the japs atttack pearl harbor and americans started incarcerating japs in america they where reimburst to some degree.Every action has a reaction.
indians have reservations because the americans/canadians took all their land and the only treatys that still stand are ones where the indians have their own pieces of land. Most of the reservations are in third world conditions, not quite reparations.
 
#30
Glockmatic said:
indians have reservations because the americans/canadians took all their land and the only treatys that still stand are ones where the indians have their own pieces of land. Most of the reservations are in third world conditions, not quite reparations.
Very true. have you ever been to an Indian reservation? a lot, not all but most, are in horrible conditions, barely livable. i'd hardly call that proper reparations.

And as for people mentioning that other races were enslaved, you bring up a valid point. there is one difference tho: as far as i know, none of those other races were promised or even offered any kind of reparations. however the US government, upon the abolishment of slavery, promised the released slaves 40 acres and a mule. they never got that, which is why a lot of them are still to this day demanding that that debt be repaid.

However, with all that being said, i don't think that this generation of citizens should be responsible for their ancestors' actions, therefore i dont think reparations should be made, let alone "owed" to black people
 

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#31
u always have to pay 4 the sinz of your fathers.Thats just the way it is.If my ancestors did some fucked up shit that fucked up generations of a particular race.Id try everything in my power 2 atone 4 my fore fathers sins.
 
#35
Glockmatic said:
indians have reservations because the americans/canadians took all their land and the only treatys that still stand are ones where the indians have their own pieces of land. Most of the reservations are in third world conditions, not quite reparations.
most of the reservations or anything owned by indians look like gold in manitoba ( well all that i have seen and ive seen alot). so i think they got a good deal here and hate it everytime i hear them asking for more.
 

Glockmatic

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#36
cdawg86 said:
most of the reservations or anything owned by indians look like gold in manitoba ( well all that i have seen and ive seen alot). so i think they got a good deal here and hate it everytime i hear them asking for more.
Well in Ontario they're third world conditions. Highest suicide rates in ontario are in reservations. High poverty rate, poor education and cases of bad water supplies contaminated all affect the reservations here.
 

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#37
beReal said:
It would only be a valid arguement if there were slaves still alive.

^^
Most important argument.
So ur telling me If you were a slave and you died 4 whatever reason But at the same time the goverment made a concious decision to award slaves 40 acres and a muel as a form of reperations.Your telling me, your next of kin isnt entitled 2 their inheritence?Wheter it be your mother or your great great great grandchildren?slavery and segerations wasnt all that long ago either.
 

The.Menace

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#38
Te US are all pro reparationsif it's about germany and jews, when it comes to blacks or native americans, noone wants to even hear about reparations...... eigther they simply don't care about coloured people or it's just a different story as soon as you had to pay yourself....

It would only be a valid arguement if there were slaves still alive.
true, slaves are dead, but it's proven and valid that the black community still suffers under the consequences of slavery and racism in america....
 
#39
no, because todays generation of people were not enslaved. If you wanna give reparations to black people, then dig em up.


The.Menace said:
true, slaves are dead, but it's proven and valid that the black community still suffers under the consequences of slavery and racism in america....


thats their fault.
 

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#40
that doesnt matter though if the slaves werent alive 2 get it, then their offsprings are entitle to get it simple and plain.Everything we do now wether its go 2 war or send a bitch out 2 space your our children has to pay 4 it anyway.Its always been like that.And true enough its people fault whats going on in the black community but maybe if blacks where given a fair shot years ago we wouldnt be on this bullshit we on now.Every action has a reaction.So there 4 pay the fuck up or help in sometype of way let a nigga get a free college education or something.Personaly i feel nobody owes me nothing.But still and all the same its all about doing whats right.
 
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