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Pittsey

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So....

The new Ipad isn't compatible with the 4G network in the UK. Yet Apple are still selling "4G capable tablets" tp UK consumers......
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
So....

The new Ipad isn't compatible with the 4G network in the UK. Yet Apple are still selling "4G capable tablets" tp UK consumers......
I think Germany won a lawsuit against them which allowed them to return it or get a rebate. I dunno. It was a month ago.
 

masta247

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Ipad 2 > Ipad 3 (New Ipad) unless you're really desperate to have the high-res display because it's the only important thing that comes with the New Ipad, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks that don't make it worth it imho.
 

Pittsey

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Ipad 2 > Ipad 3 (New Ipad) unless you're really desperate to have the high-res display because it's the only important thing that comes with the New Ipad, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks that don't make it worth it imho.
Yes. But if I buy an Ipad 3rd generation (That's how cool people say it) everyone will know how successful I am as I can raise £300 and people will know I am a fashionista. If I get an ipad 2 people will laugh at my pauper-ness.

Just kidding. :)

But... Yeah.... Once an ipad2 hits £250, I am in. And when ATV3 is jailbroken I am picking one of those up to play with too. Not because has a good OS on it, it doesn't. But because you can stick XBMC on it, once jailbroken. And I don't want to playing 720p, so it needs to be the ATV3.

I think I may then decide to sell my cheap advent Vega tablet. As the ipad will be for my son. And I have the Transformer prime. Which I rarely use anyway.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Ipad 2 > Ipad 3 (New Ipad) unless you're really desperate to have the high-res display because it's the only important thing that comes with the New Ipad, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks that don't make it worth it imho.
What're the drawbacks? I didn't pay much attention to electronics at all this semester, so when it was announced and released, I just assumed it was the next best thing.
 

masta247

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What're the drawbacks? I didn't pay much attention to electronics at all this semester, so when it was announced and released, I just assumed it was the next best thing.
It's thicker, heavier, the battery doesn't last as long (despite being almost twice as big)
and of course there are THE issues: It gets uncomfortably hot under load and doesn't charge while in use.

http://www.ijailbreak.com/ipad/the-new-ipad-charging-issues/
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/893766-consumer-group-warns-apples-new-ipad-uncomfortably-hot

All you get in exchange is a bigger resolution screen (double the pixel density) and higher res camera. The CPU is the same, the GPU is tweaked because of higher display resolution, to reach the frame rates of Ipad 2 in games.

The Ipad 2 is a better tablet. 1024x768 resolution is really good enough for a 9.7 inch screen and imho the panel itself was better. It was the typical Apple-ish IPS from LG that gave it the Apple feel with cold colors etc. The same as Apple computer displays.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I see. Not charing while plugged in during use is a huge drawback. I could not live with that. With no quad-core, it seems like it was the iPad 2S.
 

Pittsey

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The funniest thing about the advert is when they go on about the resolution of the screen. But then show it playing films and using programs that don't actually support the extra resolution. It's a gimic. Maybe in a year or 2 when the resolution is supported it'll be worth it. But then there will be a new ipad and all the trendy users will have dumped this one.
 

masta247

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I think as far as this guy made great points for Android vs iOS on phones, this is great watch for anyone considering a tablet. Just like I totally agreed with his phone videos, I also agree with this:


Browse to 4:30 which is when Ipad's pros begin. That's why I think Ipad might be a better tablet after all.
 

masta247

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The biggest point is that there are few apps optimized for Android tablets and even those optimized for Tegra 3 tablets run much smoother and faster on an Ipad. This guy shows them side by side and the difference is huge. Also, web browsing feels better on an Ipad because websites are often Ipad optimized and its better aspect ratio and smoother browser help too.

Of course the guy also said that Ipad 3 is less cool to use than the Ipad2, the UI is outdated and boring, that the notification system sucks etc. etc. Basically apart from apps and browsing Ipad is not too great..It's just that most people use tablets exactly for apps and web browsing and that's where the Ipad does much better.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
The biggest point is that there are few apps optimized for Android tablets and even those optimized for Tegra 3 tablets run much smoother and faster on an Ipad. This guy shows them side by side and the difference is huge. Also, web browsing feels better on an Ipad because websites are often Ipad optimized and its better aspect ratio and smoother browser help too.

Of course the guy also said that Ipad 3 is less cool to use than the Ipad2, the UI is outdated and boring, that the notification system sucks etc. etc. Basically apart from apps and browsing Ipad is not too great..It's just that most people use tablets exactly for apps and web browsing and that's where the Ipad does much better.
I think iOS values adding features to iOS more so than switching the UI. How much has OS X changed in the past three, four years? I mean, it's not a good or bad way, it's just their business model. Consumer should decide if they want the features OSX has to offer or if they fall sucker to Windows' constant UI changes from Vista to 7 to 8. I prefer OSX's cleaner, more organized look whether it be the desktop or the menu system. And I haven't found Window's search function to be as good and intuitive as OSX's Spotlight feature, which not only opens applications for me, but has a dictionary within the search (useful when reading either school books or articles online with words I don't know), and individual files such as music. Imagine searching for the song you want to hear, using a shortcut and then typing in the song name and it playing right away. I don't think I can do that natively on Windows.

When it comes to the mobile OS, it's the exact opposite. I feel like Android is more intuitive to search through, I think it's better integrated than iOS. I don't like notifications in iOS. I miss having a smartphone because of how I could see emails and texts all in one place. I know it's more of a chore in iOS 5. I do like the feel of the iPad over most other Android tablets. My TP doesn't count since it's a makeshift Android device. It feels rather clunky and hollow. The iPad feels solid. And I still feel that iOS has a stronger dev scene than Android. I think most blogs would agree that more quality apps are on iOS than Android, or that at least iOS gets them first and they tend to get big there before making their way to Android.

Where Android has the upperhand in hardware, I think iOS has it in software. Sure, it eventually makes it to Android, but I still find holding the iPad and using it to be a bit easier to use when actually using the app. When I use my tablet like I would my laptop, then I feel Android outshines it.
 

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