I have a 6 year old PC that blows the bawls off any apple. I replaced the processor, graphics card (twice) and ram, and hard drive. Invested 200-250$ since getting the computer. I sold old stuff and went to replace them for best performance/price things. It runs all games on max settings since 2006.
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I can't upgrade the GPU or CPU on my MBP. No one can on their notebooks.
You don't buy an Aston Martin to go rallying. You can buy six Imprezas for that price that'll do it much better. It just depends; do you want to go off-roading in an Impreza or do you want to cruise around in an Aston? You can off-road in an Aston or have the rigid shocks of a rally car tickle your anus in city driving, but at the end of the day they are two separate cars with separate uses. I don't understand why others don't understand this.
You don't buy an Aston Martin to go rallying. You can buy six Imprezas for that price that'll do it much better. It just depends; do you want to go off-roading in an Impreza or do you want to cruise around in an Aston? You can off-road in an Aston or have the rigid shocks of a rally car tickle your anus in city driving, but at the end of the day they are two separate cars with separate uses. I don't understand why others don't understand this.
Because I don't think you can compare computers to cars. It's not like you can't build an all around better thing than a Mac by yourself for much cheaper. Whatever your priorities are. You can run Mac OS on it if you wish too.
Yeah I was talking about desktops and also by "upgrade a Mac" I basically meant replacing it by a new model
Yeah I was talking about desktops and also by "upgrade a Mac" I basically meant replacing it by a new model
Thinkpads are the best laptops. A shame that they introduced the IdeaPad series that lower Lenovo's reliability rating. I've never heard of a serious problem with Thinkpads and the whole company I work for uses them, and I use 2 at home.
I have one older Thinkpad that is 7-8 years old now and I dropped it numerous times, I spilled drinks all over it and once when I was riding my bike my backpack went to shits and the laptop fell to the ground. Nothing happened to it.
Titanium cover and spillproof insides, bitches
oh and their trackpoint (pointing stick) is the best navigation method on a laptop, period. Passed GTA San Andreas, Call of duty 4 and C&C Generals using that little thing.
I have one older Thinkpad that is 7-8 years old now and I dropped it numerous times, I spilled drinks all over it and once when I was riding my bike my backpack went to shits and the laptop fell to the ground. Nothing happened to it.
Titanium cover and spillproof insides, bitches
oh and their trackpoint (pointing stick) is the best navigation method on a laptop, period. Passed GTA San Andreas, Call of duty 4 and C&C Generals using that little thing.
Lenovo/IBM seems to have had a pretty good track record in the past few years, in terms of reliability. They are behind Apple, though, if I remember correctly.
I'll put it to you this way. I can do what I want to do for much longer than anyone with a PC in my class. This includes netbooks. The only people that may have me beat are the ones rocking tablets. And that also, iPads. I still haven't used my tablet heavily during a full school day, so I can't say how it stacks up to using the internet, taking notes, and playing games, which is what I do during class. I have a feeling I'd be looking for an outlet by noon having used the tablet since 8:30 when classes started. That's where Android has lagged behind for the last three-plus years. I don't care if your Android phone handles graphics better than an iPhone. If I have to stay tethered to an outlet to keep the phone from dying, it's not worth it if I can't use the phone with no worries.
Even if you're next to an outlet all day, say in an office, why would I do that when there's an option where I don't have to?
All iOS needs is Android-like widgets. Everything else seems perfect to/for me.
Not all PCs can run as a Hackintosh, last I checked. And I'm there will be some hiccups along the way if you can. You certainly won't have the battery life of a Mac.
My MBP ran Windows flawlessly when I still had it. Then I needed extra room to download the Lion beta (this was a year ago) and so I just removed the whole Winblows partition and used it for Lion.
I used a classmate's Windows 7 PC (HP, I dunno what) and as soon as it started to hang as I clicked through the menus, I was reminded of the horror days of using Windows and having that happen to me. I had to tell another classmate, whose PC I used about two weeks ago, "I'm not sure what's wrong, but get this thing away from me because I may just throw it against the wall." That's why I'm probably not switching back to Winblows anytime soon. I haven't given Windows 8 a second thought.
I'll put it to you this way. I can do what I want to do for much longer than anyone with a PC in my class. This includes netbooks. The only people that may have me beat are the ones rocking tablets. And that also, iPads. I still haven't used my tablet heavily during a full school day, so I can't say how it stacks up to using the internet, taking notes, and playing games, which is what I do during class. I have a feeling I'd be looking for an outlet by noon having used the tablet since 8:30 when classes started. That's where Android has lagged behind for the last three-plus years. I don't care if your Android phone handles graphics better than an iPhone. If I have to stay tethered to an outlet to keep the phone from dying, it's not worth it if I can't use the phone with no worries.
Even if you're next to an outlet all day, say in an office, why would I do that when there's an option where I don't have to?
All iOS needs is Android-like widgets. Everything else seems perfect to/for me.
Not all PCs can run as a Hackintosh, last I checked. And I'm there will be some hiccups along the way if you can. You certainly won't have the battery life of a Mac.
My MBP ran Windows flawlessly when I still had it. Then I needed extra room to download the Lion beta (this was a year ago) and so I just removed the whole Winblows partition and used it for Lion.
I used a classmate's Windows 7 PC (HP, I dunno what) and as soon as it started to hang as I clicked through the menus, I was reminded of the horror days of using Windows and having that happen to me. I had to tell another classmate, whose PC I used about two weeks ago, "I'm not sure what's wrong, but get this thing away from me because I may just throw it against the wall." That's why I'm probably not switching back to Winblows anytime soon. I haven't given Windows 8 a second thought.
You're talking about laptopts, and I was talking about desktop computers (until my mention of Thinkpads).
Now if it comes to laptops:
My 7-8 year old Thinkpad still works and is about as fast as the first Macbook Air.
Lenovo's a little less reliable than Apple only because of their Ideapad series, which are basically their most popular series of fast sub-500$ laptops.
Their Thinkpads are indestructible though, and it's not about lately - they have always been, since the times it was still IBM. Their reliability dropped a few years ago - again, because of Ideapads.
Now if it comes to battery life there are better laptops than Apple. There are Lenovo, Dell, Asus models that will offer you 9 hours of web browsing - especially business ultraportables. Windows 7 offers slightly superior battery management too.
I don't want to discuss the Mac vs PC issue all over again, I just posted the picture for teh lulz
BUT, it's a fact that there's always a better "PC" solution, no matter your priorities (unless it's "I want a Mac because they're cool").
On a side note I remember when the first Macbook Air came out and at the very same time Lenovo came up with their X300, which was lighter and was only slightly thicker yet packed a dvd burner, 3 2.0 usb ports, trackpoint, gig ethernet, wimax, built in gps, 3g module, fingerprint scaner, encryption module and a led keyboard backlight. Oh, better performance and superior battery life too.
The only thing Macbook Air did better was the design - it was thinner in the front making it appear all around thinner. In reality it was 4 mm thinner, and the appearance was deceiving.
To me this demonstrates the difference between Apple and the PC world.
This was a comparison:
Now if it comes to laptops:
My 7-8 year old Thinkpad still works and is about as fast as the first Macbook Air.
Lenovo's a little less reliable than Apple only because of their Ideapad series, which are basically their most popular series of fast sub-500$ laptops.
Their Thinkpads are indestructible though, and it's not about lately - they have always been, since the times it was still IBM. Their reliability dropped a few years ago - again, because of Ideapads.
Now if it comes to battery life there are better laptops than Apple. There are Lenovo, Dell, Asus models that will offer you 9 hours of web browsing - especially business ultraportables. Windows 7 offers slightly superior battery management too.
I don't want to discuss the Mac vs PC issue all over again, I just posted the picture for teh lulz
BUT, it's a fact that there's always a better "PC" solution, no matter your priorities (unless it's "I want a Mac because they're cool").
On a side note I remember when the first Macbook Air came out and at the very same time Lenovo came up with their X300, which was lighter and was only slightly thicker yet packed a dvd burner, 3 2.0 usb ports, trackpoint, gig ethernet, wimax, built in gps, 3g module, fingerprint scaner, encryption module and a led keyboard backlight. Oh, better performance and superior battery life too.
The only thing Macbook Air did better was the design - it was thinner in the front making it appear all around thinner. In reality it was 4 mm thinner, and the appearance was deceiving.
To me this demonstrates the difference between Apple and the PC world.
This was a comparison:
Your 2005 notebook is as fast as a late 2007/early 2008 MBA? I mean, is it really a comparison given that the MBA was designed for portability and, therefore, performance took a hit? How long did your battery last when it was new? And was it as light and portable as the first MBA?
Every company has its fair share of product failures. Apple had its fiasco with the GPUs on MBPs frying a few years ago. Sure, it's a bigger issue than normal hardware failure, but they still replace those MBP models to this day, free of charge.....with a current model. Try calling HP after two years because a simple key popped off or the charger port was shot.
Show me a comparison, done by a reliable third-party tester, that shows Dells and ASUSs coming close to a similar sized and powered Apple computer. I'll ignore the fact that Dells have the shittiest reliability and the fact that a lot of their product lines are expensive too. Lenovo I can understand, since it seems that IBM was always oriented towards the businessman and not a more "diverse" user (web, word processing, gaming, etc.).
Every company has its fair share of product failures. Apple had its fiasco with the GPUs on MBPs frying a few years ago. Sure, it's a bigger issue than normal hardware failure, but they still replace those MBP models to this day, free of charge.....with a current model. Try calling HP after two years because a simple key popped off or the charger port was shot.
Show me a comparison, done by a reliable third-party tester, that shows Dells and ASUSs coming close to a similar sized and powered Apple computer. I'll ignore the fact that Dells have the shittiest reliability and the fact that a lot of their product lines are expensive too. Lenovo I can understand, since it seems that IBM was always oriented towards the businessman and not a more "diverse" user (web, word processing, gaming, etc.).
Technically T40/T42 was a 2003 laptop and of course things change but yes, it lasted about 5 hours and was a bit thicker than Macbook air and significantly heavier (5 years make a difference). It looked like this:
I'm not saying that Apple make laptops that suck. It's just that there are always better solutions.
You can't make a generalization about a company too. Dell have a business line that spawned some very good laptops (E4300, E4310, E6400), and their quality was better than that of any Apple device.
I don't know where to start and I'm too lazy too google a lot again, since I think that I used to do that in the past already.For starters:
A 13 inch Asus ultraportable laptop packing performance on par) with top Apple laptops, which weights only a bit more than Air and runs for over 11 hours on a single charge.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6289&news=asus zenbook ux21 ux31&p=4
Apple's greatest are like.. 7-8 hours on idle?
It costs half of that too.
I'll add some of the fastest laptops around, a Lenovo X220:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6056&review=lenovo thinkpad x220&p=4
Smaller than the 13inch Air, faster than Macbook Pros, far better build quality, more features, almost 9 hours running the fastest ultraportable mobile processor.
I'm not saying that Apple make laptops that suck. It's just that there are always better solutions.
You can't make a generalization about a company too. Dell have a business line that spawned some very good laptops (E4300, E4310, E6400), and their quality was better than that of any Apple device.
I don't know where to start and I'm too lazy too google a lot again, since I think that I used to do that in the past already.For starters:
A 13 inch Asus ultraportable laptop packing performance on par) with top Apple laptops, which weights only a bit more than Air and runs for over 11 hours on a single charge.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6289&news=asus zenbook ux21 ux31&p=4
Apple's greatest are like.. 7-8 hours on idle?
It costs half of that too.
I'll add some of the fastest laptops around, a Lenovo X220:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6056&review=lenovo thinkpad x220&p=4
Smaller than the 13inch Air, faster than Macbook Pros, far better build quality, more features, almost 9 hours running the fastest ultraportable mobile processor.
I think it's an unfair comparison, though. I don't see an Apple notebook being measured using the same test used for the ASUS U31SD. I do know that the reported battery life by Apple went down by about one hour on all models, but I fell they underrated it. My MBP gets me from 8:30 AM, with PowerPoint and various PDF files open, constant scrolling, slide show playing and all that fun school stuff. I got home at 4:30, went to our study hall where the internet speed is much faster than my room's. I downloaded a torrent at about 600 KB/s (not sure if speed is relevant) for about 45 minutes until it was done. I came home and watch an episode of Californication and an episode of American Dad while eating dinner. And I still had about an hour and a half left to spare before I plugged it in around 7PM.
So throughout the day, I played games (Chess), browsed the internet during school, had documents open the whole time, watched about 45 minutes of video and downloaded for another 45 minutes. And still had battery to spare. And this is on a MBP that turns two years old next month, with 586 charge cycles and 88% of its overall battery capacity left. I would venture to say the current-generation MBAs would still have had between 30-45% of its battery left had it been used the way I used my MBP today, as compared to the, maybe <20% I had before I plugged it back in. Also, keep in mind my screen brightness is at medium, maybe a tad over, and I am a backlit keyboard whore, so that was on all day too.
So it's not idle time that gets me through the whole day. I'm not editing video either, but I'm using this thing regularly and consistently throughout the day. This isn't some BS test with the backlit keyboard turn all the way down, WiFi off, screen off, no programs running, etc. This is what a normal person would use it for.
Lion does have poor battery life, compared to Snow Leopard, which is what I'm running. I have noticed this because I dual-boot SL and Lion. My computer runs hotter than usual, and my sister's, which came with Lion, runs pretty hot too. But I'm speaking from my experience with Snow Leopard, and it's been a great experience so far.
So throughout the day, I played games (Chess), browsed the internet during school, had documents open the whole time, watched about 45 minutes of video and downloaded for another 45 minutes. And still had battery to spare. And this is on a MBP that turns two years old next month, with 586 charge cycles and 88% of its overall battery capacity left. I would venture to say the current-generation MBAs would still have had between 30-45% of its battery left had it been used the way I used my MBP today, as compared to the, maybe <20% I had before I plugged it back in. Also, keep in mind my screen brightness is at medium, maybe a tad over, and I am a backlit keyboard whore, so that was on all day too.
So it's not idle time that gets me through the whole day. I'm not editing video either, but I'm using this thing regularly and consistently throughout the day. This isn't some BS test with the backlit keyboard turn all the way down, WiFi off, screen off, no programs running, etc. This is what a normal person would use it for.
Lion does have poor battery life, compared to Snow Leopard, which is what I'm running. I have noticed this because I dual-boot SL and Lion. My computer runs hotter than usual, and my sister's, which came with Lion, runs pretty hot too. But I'm speaking from my experience with Snow Leopard, and it's been a great experience so far.
Boy, 11, urinates on $36K worth of Apple MacBooks
He had the means and the opportunity, but we may never know the motive of an 11-year-old student who urinated on a couple dozen laptops left unattended at Upper Allen Township Elementary in Pennsylvania.
In a report now bemusing Mac fan forums across the Internet, theUpper Allen Township Police Department states that "the cart and computers were damaged beyond repair, resulting in the loss of over $36,000."
The cart in question contained approximately 30 school-owned MacBooks, according to a police department spokesperson I spoke to, who couldn't tell me why the kid did it — let alone how. Because, c'mon— 30 MacBooks, even stacked, make for a formidable amount of square footage to cover, especially for a kid.
Nevertheless, all MacBooks went down as a total loss, and John Brownlee at Cult of Mac educates us on the likely reason why.
Sure enough, not even dog urine is acceptable. I know this because the helpful woman who answered the phone at the New York City's Fifth Avenue Apple Store told me that no, if my dog urinated on my MacBook, no Apple Genius would touch it. What's more, "biohazard" is the exact word she used, right before she encouraged me to "Google" a repair outfit that would deign to do such dirty work.
Dog urination aside, there are other MacBook pathogens that may surprise you. So if you smoke, heads up. Cigarette smoke-infused Apple products count as biohazards too, as Consumerist reported in 2009.
For the crime of creating $36K in Apple biohazards, the boy in question was charged with institutional vandalism and criminal mischief. While the police spokesperson assures me that, contrary to some reports, the kid was not arrested, his case was forwarded to the Cumberland County Juvenile Probation Department.
Helen A.S. Popkin goes blah blah blah about the Internet. Tell her to get a real job on Twitter and/or Facebook. Also, Google+.
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He had the means and the opportunity, but we may never know the motive of an 11-year-old student who urinated on a couple dozen laptops left unattended at Upper Allen Township Elementary in Pennsylvania.
In a report now bemusing Mac fan forums across the Internet, theUpper Allen Township Police Department states that "the cart and computers were damaged beyond repair, resulting in the loss of over $36,000."
The cart in question contained approximately 30 school-owned MacBooks, according to a police department spokesperson I spoke to, who couldn't tell me why the kid did it — let alone how. Because, c'mon— 30 MacBooks, even stacked, make for a formidable amount of square footage to cover, especially for a kid.
Nevertheless, all MacBooks went down as a total loss, and John Brownlee at Cult of Mac educates us on the likely reason why.
We can all surmise that urinating upon your Mac will not be covered by your AppleCare, but here’s an interesting question: If you stand up right this second, unzip your fly and hose off all over your MacBook, can you even pay Apple to service the machines? The answer is no, because Apple looks at micturated-upon MacBooks as a biohazard.
Sure enough, not even dog urine is acceptable. I know this because the helpful woman who answered the phone at the New York City's Fifth Avenue Apple Store told me that no, if my dog urinated on my MacBook, no Apple Genius would touch it. What's more, "biohazard" is the exact word she used, right before she encouraged me to "Google" a repair outfit that would deign to do such dirty work.
Dog urination aside, there are other MacBook pathogens that may surprise you. So if you smoke, heads up. Cigarette smoke-infused Apple products count as biohazards too, as Consumerist reported in 2009.
For the crime of creating $36K in Apple biohazards, the boy in question was charged with institutional vandalism and criminal mischief. While the police spokesperson assures me that, contrary to some reports, the kid was not arrested, his case was forwarded to the Cumberland County Juvenile Probation Department.
Helen A.S. Popkin goes blah blah blah about the Internet. Tell her to get a real job on Twitter and/or Facebook. Also, Google+.
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The fanboyism at cultofmac is really extremely annoying. It's like every news article there is so extremely pro-Mac and anti-windows and anti-anythingelse that it's funny sometimes, but sad, and annoying. It's that kind of Apple dickriding that I dislike the most.
Taking basically any info and turning it into "Apple is the awesomenest and everything else sucks", even if the source clearly stated the exact opposite. How can people read that? I mean, it spawns fanboys that the world later hates, and then you get ridiculed for owning an Ipad.. : (
Really, what the hell?!
Taking basically any info and turning it into "Apple is the awesomenest and everything else sucks", even if the source clearly stated the exact opposite. How can people read that? I mean, it spawns fanboys that the world later hates, and then you get ridiculed for owning an Ipad.. : (
Really, what the hell?!
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