The soul.

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Do you believe in a soul? That you have an essence which is life giving, spiritual and makes you whom you are? I do to an extent, I just think that there's something in us which goes beyond the flesh and the mental state..

peace.
 
Did that lsd send you into a reflective state of mind? Questioning your being... hehe.

I dont know if I believe in a soul, certainly not the popularised notion. I believe, like you, there is more to us than the physical - something unique to each individual but to classify and describe it is hard.
 
Strange you should ask that. I got asked this by a girl a few hours ago. I think it was due to the film we were watching.

No I do not. I believe all we are is chemical reactions in the brain. When the brain dies so do we. And so does the part of us that people believe is the soul.
 
Pittsey said:
Strange you should ask that. I got asked this by a girl a few hours ago. I think it was due to the film we were watching.

No I do not. I believe all we are is chemical reactions in the brain. When the brain dies so do we. And so does the part of us that people believe is the soul.


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Pittsey said:
Strange you should ask that. I got asked this by a girl a few hours ago. I think it was due to the film we were watching.

No I do not. I believe all we are is chemical reactions in the brain. When the brain dies so do we. And so does the part of us that people believe is the soul.

There is SO MUCH! evidence that backs up your statement... however, I still believe in the soul for reasons I can not put into words.. even if I wanted to.
 
There is not that much evidence. Your brain and the chemical reactions cannot explain everything. NDE (Near-Death Experiences) is one example of the many phenomenons science fails to explain. Although some people claim the "tunnel" is explainable by the mecanisms following the death of your brain, there is still no evidence and a lack of explanations for many details brought back from people who experienced death. Neurosciences can explain the mecanisms and a few locations working throughout specific thoughts and emotions, but there are still major holes in our understanding. We can explain the "where" and the "how", but not the source. Through all the things you can do and feel, all the passions you have, your projects and the people you love, if you want to believe it's all chemical reactions, of course you will find many people who will share your belief, and I used to think the same, until I came to the evidence I'm sharing with my bro Tru Principle, who I know got pretty much the same ways of seeing life as I do, except that he believes in Allah and I believe in God, which end up being the same. Science explains evolution, but not the "why". Rewind time as far as you want, you will still fail at understanding the big picture. Something has to have always existed, a concept which the human brain cannot visualize, but only conceive. Either that something is nothingness, or an intelligence we call God. Order requires intelligence, and the universe is ordered. You can call my belief the Intelligent Design, cuz I don't believe in coincidences.

For all those reasons I believe I have a soul, but I think a soul is also something you have to work for, some people are lost forever.
 
THA_DAN said:
There is not that much evidence. Your brain and the chemical reactions cannot explain everything. NDE (Near-Death Experiences) is one example of the many phenomenons science fails to explain. Although some people claim the "tunnel" is explainable by the mecanisms following the death of your brain, there is still no evidence and a lack of explanations for many details brought back from people who experienced death. Neurosciences can explain the mecanisms and a few locations working throughout specific thoughts and emotions, but there are still major holes in our understanding. We can explain the "where" and the "how", but not the source. Through all the things you can do and feel, all the passions you have, your projects and the people you love, if you want to believe it's all chemical reactions, of course you will find many people who will share your belief, and I used to think the same, until I came to the evidence I'm sharing with my bro Tru Principle, who I know got pretty much the same ways of seeing life as I do, except that he believes in Allah and I believe in God, which end up being the same. Science explains evolution, but not the "why". Rewind time as far as you want, you will still fail at understanding the big picture. Something has to have always existed, a concept which the human brain cannot visualize, but only conceive. Either that something is nothingness, or an intelligence we call God. Order requires intelligence, and the universe is ordered. You can call my belief the Intelligent Design, cuz I don't believe in coincidences.

For all those reasons I believe I have a soul, but I think a soul is also something you have to work for, some people are lost forever.


great post man :thumb:
 
THA_DAN said:
There is not that much evidence. Your brain and the chemical reactions cannot explain everything. NDE (Near-Death Experiences) is one example of the many phenomenons science fails to explain. Although some people claim the "tunnel" is explainable by the mecanisms following the death of your brain, there is still no evidence and a lack of explanations for many details brought back from people who experienced death. Neurosciences can explain the mecanisms and a few locations working throughout specific thoughts and emotions, but there are still major holes in our understanding. We can explain the "where" and the "how", but not the source. Through all the things you can do and feel, all the passions you have, your projects and the people you love, if you want to believe it's all chemical reactions, of course you will find many people who will share your belief, and I used to think the same, until I came to the evidence I'm sharing with my bro Tru Principle, who I know got pretty much the same ways of seeing life as I do, except that he believes in Allah and I believe in God, which end up being the same. Science explains evolution, but not the "why". Rewind time as far as you want, you will still fail at understanding the big picture. Something has to have always existed, a concept which the human brain cannot visualize, but only conceive. Either that something is nothingness, or an intelligence we call God. Order requires intelligence, and the universe is ordered. You can call my belief the Intelligent Design, cuz I don't believe in coincidences.

For all those reasons I believe I have a soul, but I think a soul is also something you have to work for, some people are lost forever.


Science doesn't provide answers on a whim.

That said, from the top of my head, the tunnel effects indeed comes from lack of blood in the brain, which makes your vision tunnely. Fighter pilots experience the same phenomenom under high G's, albeit in a more controlled setting than someone about to kick the bucket. Regardless, the chaos the body is in at such a time combined with everything a frightened mind can come up with, it seems a reasonable explanation that a near death experience is caused by your brain going haywire.

But of course, for some this is a not spectacular enough explanation.

I ask you, Dan, you apparently complain about the lack of scientific evidence explaining certain unknown phenomena.

But can you provide me a solid piece of evidence about the existence of our soul?
 
Duke said:
I ask you, Dan, you apparently complain about the lack of scientific evidence explaining certain unknown phenomena.

But can you provide me a solid piece of evidence about the existence of our soul?

After you provide me a solid piece of evidence that you love your parents.
 
yep believe in them. we are all just usin our bodies when youre gone your body is nothin its emty its ice cold. when you love somebody your lovin THEM their souls and it just can't end. how else would Your love for em ,not end?
pz
 
Amara said:
Did that lsd send you into a reflective state of mind? Questioning your being... hehe.

I can only picture your reactions when you read that msg, You must of been "WTF is he on about?" lol. But on a lighter note it's my birthday on Sunday. :thumb:

I believe in a soul, sometimes we can feel things which I don't think chemical reactions in our brains could explain.

peace.
 

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