Surviving R Kelly
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I heard about this documentary a few months ago when it was still being made. With all the jokes people made about him pissing on girls, I think a lot of us got desensitized to it and now most people that knew about him and listened to his music aren't too shocked.
I liked his vocals on some of his songs but didn't care too much about him outside of that. If he's guilty of the stuff his alleged victims are saying, lock him up and throw away the key.
There's different issues branching from the release of the doc; some people are saying black women are ignored and seen as expendable and there are marches protesting him here in Chicago, and probably elsewhere. There's drama about other celebs that worked with him all this time. There's drama with celebs that, today, still won't speak up against him (not that they have to, but it's an issue to some people nonetheless).
Pretty hard to call all those people that came forward "liars," so the sooner he's on trial and fucked off to prison, the faster we can move on from this. I don't think this stuff is going to end. Celebs aren't the only ones doing these things but they're certainly the most outspoken when someone gets caught and claiming to be for the victims. Money and power go hand in hand but I can't make the connection between those two and the prevalence of sexual assault and other immoral things that a lot of regular folks wouldn't imagine doing. And I mentioned the other celebs that cover up for each other and it seems to really be a Hollywood/show business thing. Like they're all in on it and whenever the perp gets caught, there's always some "accessory" celeb that "knew about it."
With Weinstein it was Oprah and Meryl Streep. And maybe Matt Damon? I know he caught shit for something.
With R Kelly it's Gaga and some other musicians that worked with him.
Just seems like a cycle that'll still go on even when people get exposed. I don't see the end-game here. There will always be predators and they will find someone to prey on.
I liked his vocals on some of his songs but didn't care too much about him outside of that. If he's guilty of the stuff his alleged victims are saying, lock him up and throw away the key.
There's different issues branching from the release of the doc; some people are saying black women are ignored and seen as expendable and there are marches protesting him here in Chicago, and probably elsewhere. There's drama about other celebs that worked with him all this time. There's drama with celebs that, today, still won't speak up against him (not that they have to, but it's an issue to some people nonetheless).
Pretty hard to call all those people that came forward "liars," so the sooner he's on trial and fucked off to prison, the faster we can move on from this. I don't think this stuff is going to end. Celebs aren't the only ones doing these things but they're certainly the most outspoken when someone gets caught and claiming to be for the victims. Money and power go hand in hand but I can't make the connection between those two and the prevalence of sexual assault and other immoral things that a lot of regular folks wouldn't imagine doing. And I mentioned the other celebs that cover up for each other and it seems to really be a Hollywood/show business thing. Like they're all in on it and whenever the perp gets caught, there's always some "accessory" celeb that "knew about it."
With Weinstein it was Oprah and Meryl Streep. And maybe Matt Damon? I know he caught shit for something.
With R Kelly it's Gaga and some other musicians that worked with him.
Just seems like a cycle that'll still go on even when people get exposed. I don't see the end-game here. There will always be predators and they will find someone to prey on.
First off I'd just like to say it's amazing seeing your growth from Tennis Dogg till now.
Secondly you bring up what I think is the most interesting point when it comes to this stuff. It seems the prevalence of these kind of sexual abuse cases when it comes to people in high positions of power such as celebrities and rich folk seems abnormally high compared to regular people. I'd like to see some kind of study on it. Are these types of people wired that way and it's that drive that gets them to positions of high influence or does being in those positions of power turn them into these creeps.
I think there is a study floating around that shows that narcissists tend to flock to celeb positions or positions of power.
I haven’t watched it. I need to find it on Canadian soil.
He got dropped by his label. I also believe an investigation is underway, if not it should be. And to think he acted as none of it was true... I mean one woman, fine. Several? Doubtful.
It does feel like it was known but ignored. Like too many of these cases.
He got dropped by his label. I also believe an investigation is underway, if not it should be. And to think he acted as none of it was true... I mean one woman, fine. Several? Doubtful.
It does feel like it was known but ignored. Like too many of these cases.
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