Rihanna and Chris Brown

(Disclamer: Insert all social awareness issues related to battery here)

This case never seems to get old for me when something new comes up (if that makes any sense). I for one thought really highly of Rihanna before the incident but, I lost all respect for her when I heard she was supposedly going back to Chris. After watching her interview, I think the message she is putting out there is pretty clear. However, it does not guarantee that other girls in similar situations will 'hit the road' because Rihanna did so and, says they should do so when they are battered.

Hadn't she already gone back to him? I mean that is where the problem was in the first place, she gave it a 2nd chance. I never understood this concept with some women but it happens all the time. Guy hits her all over the place, she get her face bloody, swollen & bruised and, next thing you know she is back with the same guy. Happens again and again and again and, you just stop giving a f!@k about the girl.

I know a news anchor in my country that thousands of guys would do anything for. She recently married a guy that has sent her to the hospital more than 5 times after beatings. When she talks to me about it, she says its probably her who is doing things wrong and, he needs to discipline her when she steps out of line. WTF?? This is one repeated concept of domestic abuse in my country that makes me so mad.

Yes, its likely Chris would not hit Rihanna again like she said but, she already went back. The damage was already there and that's a little hard to come back from. Yes she is human, yada yada yada but, I still see other girls giving it a chance as its a trend that we've all seen for a long time. Its not likely that Rihanna's actions will all of a sudden see women decide enough is enough. Maybe a chosen few, hey, change is change no matter how small.

Now there are some other things that I put into perspective about this incident. Chris Brown fans stood by him through the madness of this case. I'm not saying they should have gone all 'anti-2pac' on him and, started stomping on his CD's in the streets. I remember reading the comments on the MTV website after the incident. Most of his fans (male and female) were saying he probably did it for a good reason, so that does not make him a bad person. What the hell is wrong with the younger generation these days? Its all of a sudden okay to hit a woman because you have a good reason to do so?

Its a double standard isn't it? MJ gets into molestation cases and the whole world turns against him. R Kelly *allegedly* pees all over a minor while having sex with her but, to his fans that's ok. Chris Brown beats up Rihanna but, according to fans its all good, he's justified. Whats the scale for measuring whats wrong and whats okay for celebrities to do?

Finally, plenty of women out there (young and old) are still charmed by Chris Brown's looks and, everything else about him, regardless of the fact that he beat up Rihanna. No, I'm not saying he loses his physical appeal because he is a batterer but, at least re-consider the kind of guy you are attracted to.

In other aspects of the interview, I don't think the hair color suits Rihanna :D
 
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Rihanna is responsible for nobody but herself. If you are willing to say girls/women would follow Rihanna's lead by staying with the abuser then you should equally be willing to say they would leave them too. All that I can say is I'm glad she left him and I won't be buying any Chris Brown music in the future, somehow listening to him sing things like:

"I just can't believe your still with him
'cause its all to him that were not together
and just because you wont break it
i can't be with you
just 'cause he's so rude
and beats you up
don't mean you shouldn't stand up for yoself"
-Be With You

somehow doesn't connect..
 
I think she looks pretty good in that interview.

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what pisses me off more than any of what you guys said before is the timing of her interview. just before the release of her new album? some claim it's better now than never and that she probably wanted to avoid the questions throughout the promotion tour of her album but still. she got hit, went back. got out of it. now is saying she got out for her fans, not herself but her fans because even if Chris Brown wouldn't hit her again it doesn't mean that those girls' bf would stop too.

Clearly even if at the end I feel compassion for an individual who went through what she did, even harder in the public eye, I feel like she is only motivated by what people think of her and how she will sell. The words in her interview are more than too carefully chosen. How she refers to fans in her position and how she said that it's because of them she got out. No. you have to get out of it for yourself. It's all played out too nice and the timing is too perfect. Waited 8 months to say this? I get it, it must have not been easy but I dunno. I find this whole thing is taking a hypocrite turn.
 
what pisses me off more than any of what you guys said before is the timing of her interview. just before the release of her new album? some claim it's better now than never and that she probably wanted to avoid the questions throughout the promotion tour of her album but still. she got hit, went back. got out of it. now is saying she got out for her fans, not herself but her fans because even if Chris Brown wouldn't hit her again it doesn't mean that those girls' bf would stop too.

Clearly even if at the end I feel compassion for an individual who went through what she did, even harder in the public eye, I feel like she is only motivated by what people think of her and how she will sell. The words in her interview are more than too carefully chosen. How she refers to fans in her position and how she said that it's because of them she got out. No. you have to get out of it for yourself. It's all played out too nice and the timing is too perfect. Waited 8 months to say this? I get it, it must have not been easy but I dunno. I find this whole thing is taking a hypocrite turn.

Exactly.

Kobe, this is why some fans think it's okay. The younger generation always wants to hear two sides to the story.

I dunno, if it's just my observation, or what. But, I see a lot of females that think they can take advantage of guys just because we 'owe them,' because they are physically weaker, but still 'equal' in our society.

I've seen plenty of women that think it's okay to hit, b/c we are equal, but they are physically weaker. Therefore, they can 'get away' with hitting us men too.

This whole image that he came out with, about being the sweet guy and all that stuff....that's why no one wants to beleieve it.

On TV, you see Chris Brown talking about love dovey kisses...

On TV, you see Rhianna just turning 18 and being half naked in one of her videos...

Now, to see her come out with details, it makes her seem childish. Almost like she has an agenda, like Carmi pointed out.

Does that not, hint that maybe, Rhianna did something to provoke Chris?

No matter what, Chris wanted to keep it private....and I agree with him, and also agree with you that he shouldn't have hit her, even if he was provoked....

But the younger generation see's that he PROBABLY was.
 
i think rihanna brought this whole thing on herself

in her song breaking dishes i swear it sounds like she's saying "I'm a fight a man tonight"
 
carmi's right, she's saying what her publicists told her to say, and she's saying it now because rated R or whatever is coming out. Its all bidniss mah maan.
 
I don't think he has a right to say how any of this plays out, if she wants to talk about it he has to deal with it. If he thinks it gonna hurt his career he shoulda thought about that before he beat her. He went on Larry King to talk about it. Why cant she?

Even if he was provoked in some way, beating someone unconscious should not be seen in any way appropriate. If it was a female doing that to a male I'd feel the same way.
 
Exactly.

Kobe, this is why some fans think it's okay. The younger generation always wants to hear two sides to the story.

I dunno, if it's just my observation, or what. But, I see a lot of females that think they can take advantage of guys just because we 'owe them,' because they are physically weaker, but still 'equal' in our society.

I've seen plenty of women that think it's okay to hit, b/c we are equal, but they are physically weaker. Therefore, they can 'get away' with hitting us men too.

This whole image that he came out with, about being the sweet guy and all that stuff....that's why no one wants to beleieve it.

On TV, you see Chris Brown talking about love dovey kisses...

On TV, you see Rhianna just turning 18 and being half naked in one of her videos...

Now, to see her come out with details, it makes her seem childish. Almost like she has an agenda, like Carmi pointed out.

Does that not, hint that maybe, Rhianna did something to provoke Chris?

No matter what, Chris wanted to keep it private....and I agree with him, and also agree with you that he shouldn't have hit her, even if he was provoked....

But the younger generation see's that he PROBABLY was.

I don't see how my quote was related to this though as I don't think anyone deserves to be hit regardless what has been said. Obviously if she would have hit him it would probably be another story even though even then I wouldn't condone retaliation. Men or women shouldn't be hitting other men or women. Neither gender has the right to hit the other gender.

Chris Brown wants to keep it private because he's the bad guy in this story. He's currently embarking on a tour that is NOT selling because of what happened. All of this is affecting him BADLY. Even if some of his fans approve of what he did, his career will never be the same.

I just feel Rihanna could have used her story to be some sort of role model without having an album to promote. It makes her whole declaration tainted. She could have done a good thing with what happened to her but it just looks like she's speaking about it for all the wrong reasons.
 
at the end of the day, you cant sit there and say that what he did to her didn't hurt her. the guy beat the shit out of her. we all saw the evidence. she was bruised up all over the face. you cannot just sit there and think that she's only got the business shit on her mind.

yes, she IS capitalising off this but good on her. the guy she loved beat the shit out of her, and she's gonna try shit on him and get something out of it as a big "fuck you" to him. think about it like that. he's got an album coming out too. think of it as revenge. his album sales will not be as they used to be. mark my words.

as for only thinking about what the fans want.. That's rubbish. Like many girls, they are immersed in a relationship, and even if they are being beaten by a guy there is still somehting that keeps them there. It's a problem evident in many girls. Rihanna is human, and she succumbed to that human weakness. BUT, like she said in the interview, if you take a third person approach in looking @ the relationship you will see how fucked up it is.. Rihanna simply put herself in the shoes of the people that admire her and that was how she realised that the whole situation was fucked.
 
I just feel Rihanna could have used her story to be some sort of role model without having an album to promote. It makes her whole declaration tainted. She could have done a good thing with what happened to her but it just looks like she's speaking about it for all the wrong reasons.

Let's just think a bit more logically for a second.. She DOES have an album coming out.. And she has to do the publicity trail to build hype for the album. This means hundreds of interviews, public appearances, etc etc..

Now you tell me what those fuckball journalists would have focussed on? Her music? Get the fuck out.. At that point she wouldnt have "publicly" spoken about the beatings, so these interviews would have been the first where shes in the lime light like that. They would have ONLY asked her about that shit.

And think about it.. when you do hundreds of interviews and theyre gonna KEEP asking you the same shit over and over, you wouldnt want that.

IT's more of a preemptive thing in my opinion. A sort of thing where she does the interviews, gets those questions and her answers to them out in the open. Then no one else will ask her. It's done. It's all out there, and now she can focus on promoting her album without having to worry about constantly reliving what she went through as she goes through hundreds of interviews on the publicity trail.
 
^i know that. i just feel like its all kinds of wrongs to capitalize on an event like that. but i totally get your point.
 
It would be hard considering she is a musician, I'd agree more on your point carmi if say she suddenly had a book out and its a completely new career move that she's promoting. I figure she's done the interview now to have the questions done on her own terms, also I wouldn't have expected an interview like this right after the event.
 

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