Okay....Racists at DePaul...Can't go to School...

[Cooper]

You US students are pampered too much.

:thumb:

 

[Synful*Luv]

Teach you? girl, the only thing you need to care about is getting your credits. the best learning is self-taught.

Because in reality as long as you got that degree it doesn't matter if you know it or not, people will still hire you, its all about the credential.

Sorry, I completely disagree with that statement, i'm paying all that money to LEARN, not to barely slide by just for the credits...if that was the case, I would have went to Community College....

 

[Synful*Luv]

yea this shit was all over the news today, funny tho me and some friends went up to depaul a while ago and i asked them was it a racist vibe up there we saw nothin but white people and they kinda was lookn at us funny

LMAO, now you know, DePaul is 89% White, lol what were you expecting to see???? FYI, there aren't that many minorities at UIC either...

shit, as a loyola student we always had fun ripping on depaul and such, just for jokes.

Now it seems I have valid reason to do so, for real.

when did this shit happen? i'm pissed. i wanna know because as a chicagoan and a minority university student it concerns me.

good post s.l.

It was like the other night, I don't really think it's as serious as people are trying to make it. The thing is, DePaul has such a small minority community that they want to try really hard to make it look as if they're the ANTI-RACIST to keep DePaul from getting bad media attention. They don't want all the minority support groups to get involved on a negative level. But now it's just like getting ridiculous. It's done and over with. Take down the signs and move on.

 

[Diaz]

Fags.

 

[Synful*Luv]

damn i feel you Synful. A LOT.

I think when she was speaking on the whole TEACH ME thing she was basically saying, fuck everything else, Im in school, im here to learn NEW things, not about a select people who want to hate anyone who is not exactly like them. People dont have a choice to be born damnit.

but yeah synful i totally feel ya on this one. If these type of things werent made such a big deal out of then the people commiting the acts and craving some attention will just fade out into no man's land.

Just repair what was damanged, and move on.

That's the point I was getting at, rep'd

 

[DarkPhantom13]

There's alot of ignorant fuckin people these dayz. It's fuckin stupid. People dont realize the color of a persons skin is just wat it is....COLOR! I swear skinheads and the like are fuckin stupid and i shed no fuckin pity when the homies beat them down for the fuck of it. Some of these muthafuckaz are straight fuckin stupid and idiotic. I mean shit, some of these guys would rather hate a black or brown person instead of hating a white person that rapes and molests little kids. Can anybody be any more fuckin retarded? Syn i feel your pain though. You wanna come up and actually learn....something alot of kids these days dont even give a shit about. I tip my hat to you for actually wanting to learn and better yourself in life instead of worrying about ignorant fucks like that.

 

[2pacnbiggie]

LMAO, now you know, DePaul is 89% White, lol what were you expecting to see???? FYI, there aren't that many minorities at UIC either...

yea the minorities arent really at uic either thats why im not really there either. :laugh:

I remember u telln me there was alotta white people was up there i forgot wen i went up there and saw for myself lol we took da redline up there n went to da library ... at least now i kno if i go up there and see another blk person its a 95% chance its u

 

[S O F I]

You US students are pampered too much.

What did you base that opinion on?

 

[Synful*Luv]

There's alot of ignorant fuckin people these dayz. It's fuckin stupid. People dont realize the color of a persons skin is just wat it is....COLOR! I swear skinheads and the like are fuckin stupid and i shed no fuckin pity when the homies beat them down for the fuck of it. Some of these muthafuckaz are straight fuckin stupid and idiotic. I mean shit, some of these guys would rather hate a black or brown person instead of hating a white person that rapes and molests little kids. Can anybody be any more fuckin retarded? Syn i feel your pain though. You wanna come up and actually learn....something alot of kids these days dont even give a shit about. I tip my hat to you for actually wanting to learn and better yourself in life instead of worrying about ignorant fucks like that.

Yeah, but my thing is, so what, people are racists, that's their right, you know?? but i'm more pissed about people interrupting my learning for something this petty. I can see if someone was hurt, or a specific person was targeted, but that's not the case, they need to get over it.

 

[Synful*Luv]

yea the minorities arent really at uic either thats why im not really there either. :laugh:

I remember u telln me there was alotta white people was up there i forgot wen i went up there and saw for myself lol we took da redline up there n went to da library ... at least now i kno if i go up there and see another blk person its a 95% chance its u

LMAO, yeah, DePaul's "other" population is larger than their Black population, but I don't care, who cares....

If that was the case, I would've went to a HBC down south.

There's blk ppl in Lincoln Park though, I used to live there, lol You just have to know where to look for us Apparently we're hiding from the ppl who don't want us to exist

 

[Taliq]

What did you base that opinion on?

It's well known that a lot, I'd even go so far as to say most, higher education institutions in the US provide an extremely high level of support to their students. That can be both a good thing and a bad thign, but the level of self-learning and actually doing the work for themselves is poor. I studied a professional development module last semester (I'm in Computing) and I looked at the similarities and difference of the US and UK higher education systems. To get a greater insight into the area I looked at what US students thought of studying in the UK (through both primary and secondary sources). Most of the people/sources I came across had US students complaining about the work load and the apparent lack of support. The basically weren't being spoon fed and found it difficult to adapt.

Now the point I'm trying to make is, granted there may be other factors involved, but if you have the course objectives, set texts and resources around you what's stopping you learning. Ok, it sets you back a little, but you should be able to make that up with a few extra hours of self-learning if you're so eager to learn.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Now the point I'm trying to make is, granted there may be other factors involved, but if you have the course objectives, set texts and resources around you what's stopping you learning. Ok, it sets you back a little, but you should be able to make that up with a few extra hours of self-learning if you're so eager to learn.

I didn't mean that I needed the professors to hold my hand and walk me through a lesson, it was more figurative than literal, meaning, it's a learning institution, they should be teaching us, not cutting off classes for some stupid "race relations" seminar.

 

[S O F I]

It's well known that a lot, I'd even go so far as to say most, higher education institutions in the US provide an extremely high level of support to their students. That can be both a good thing and a bad thign, but the level of self-learning and actually doing the work for themselves is poor. I studied a professional development module last semester (I'm in Computing) and I looked at the similarities and difference of the US and UK higher education systems. To get a greater insight into the area I looked at what US students thought of studying in the UK (through both primary and secondary sources). Most of the people/sources I came across had US students complaining about the work load and the apparent lack of support. The basically weren't being spoon fed and found it difficult to adapt.

Now the point I'm trying to make is, granted there may be other factors involved, but if you have the course objectives, set texts and resources around you what's stopping you learning. Ok, it sets you back a little, but you should be able to make that up with a few extra hours of self-learning if you're so eager to learn.

I see what you're saying. However, the problem goes back to high-school. There's a big jump from high school to college and university in the United States and most students find it hard to get accustomed to it. It's not a smooth transition, and there are certain things states are doing to make that transition smoother. That is why students in college complain about the workload. Plus, in high school, teachers get on you for not coming to class and not turning in your work. In college, they don't give a shit. However, I don't neccesarily see how students are pampered in college here. Sure, there are tutors available and some professors even put their notes online. But, it still goes back to their will to learn.

 

[Synful*Luv]

I see what you're saying. However, the problem goes back to high-school. There's a big jump from high school to college and university in the United States and most students find it hard to get accustomed to it. It's not a smooth transition, and there are certain things states are doing to make that transition smoother. That is why students in college complain about the workload. Plus, in high school, teachers get on you for not coming to class and not turning in your work. In college, they don't give a shit. However, I don't neccesarily see how students are pampered in college here. Sure, there are tutors available and some professors even put their notes online. But, it still goes back to their will to learn.

True, well said, rep'd

 

[Shahin]

I see what you're saying. However, the problem goes back to high-school. There's a big jump from high school to college and university in the United States and most students find it hard to get accustomed to it. It's not a smooth transition, and there are certain things states are doing to make that transition smoother. That is why students in college complain about the workload. Plus, in high school, teachers get on you for not coming to class and not turning in your work. In college, they don't give a shit.

It's like that everywhere though.

 

[Taliq]

It's like that everywhere though.

You stole what I was gonna say

Anyway, back on topic. You shouldn't let these idiots get in the way of a valuable education Syn. Look at it this way, it's the same for everyone. Now if everyone if not learning as well as they should e during this awkward period and you put in some real work, come assessment time you'll probably do a lot better than them.

Then your plans for world domination can come to fruition, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :fury: :laugh: :fury:

 

[S O F I]

It's like that everywhere though.

I speak about what I know. I don't know about other countries. Now, if that is true, how the hell is Taliq's point valid that US students are pampered too much?

 

[Taliq]

I speak about what I know. I don't know about other countries. Now, if that is true, how the hell is Taliq's point valid that US students are pampered too much?

Erm what? lol it further proves my point. We're talking about college/ university students aren't we. Your reasons for the discrepency was that US students aren't prepared for the transition, it's a big step, in high school your pressured to do work but when you get to college there's more freedom so people can't be bothered doing any work.

The next post was it's the same everywhere, as in that behaviour happens in other countries too. So your point about the US education system not preparing students for the change, and therefore the "suffer" in college years, is invalid becuase it happens in other countries and yet their students don't "suffer" as much.

 

[S O F I]

Erm what? lol it further proves my point. We're talking about college/ university students aren't we. Your reasons for the discrepency was that US students aren't prepared for the transition, it's a big step, in high school your pressured to do work but when you get to college there's more freedom so people can't be bothered doing any work.

The next post was it's the same everywhere, as in that behaviour happens in other countries too. So your point about the US education system not preparing students for the change, and therefore the "suffer" in college years, is invalid becuase it happens in other countries and yet their students don't "suffer" as much.

First off, your beginning argument is wrong. "High School" in European countries, for example, and high school in America is not the same. Many will agree that high school education is much harder in other places, especially in France for example, where students have to pass the BAC. There is no such equivalent here in the US.

So, even if you forget what I just said, what you're trying to say is that US students whine too much, not that they are pampered. If they are pampered, it's suggested that somebody is pampering them. That is not the case.

 

[Taliq]

First off, your beginning argument is wrong. "High School" in European countries, for example, and high school in America is not the same. Many will agree that high school education is much harder in other places, especially in France for example, where students have to pass the BAC. There is no such equivalent here in the US.

So, even if you forget what I just said, what you're trying to say is that US students whine too much, not that they are pampered. If they are pampered, it's suggested that somebody is pampering them. That is not the case.

Read your initial post again, and then read mine. YOU were the one that brought high school up. I was just replying to that and then said "We're talking about college/ university students aren't we"...which means my focus is on college/university students. You brought up all the random stuff about the transition between high school etc being harder and the massive change in learning environment. But the fact is a lot of other countries have that too. Maybe not exactly at identical age groups and maybe not in exactly the same way. But there is a cut off point where the 9-3.30 (or whatever it may) school day is replaced by a more open system where you could only have two or three lectures a day.

Of course there is someone doing the pampering. What are you not taught by lecturers? Are you not assessed? Do you not have tutors? The difference may come in things like (but not limited to) an assessment on a particular subject. One set of students may have lecturers go through background and related material. Another set of students would just have lecturers say, here is an assessment on this topic - get on with it. The first set of students would be more pampered than the second. Comprendez? From the evidence I looked at a few months ago and the people I spoke to, US students seem to struggle (maybe just at first) to a more self-learning orientated course, such as those in British Universities. This MAY (or may not) be due to the fact that back home they get a lot more support, pampering, call it what you like. But again, this probably varies from institution to institution.