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Police: Officers Justified In Doughnut Shop Shooting
Robbery Suspected Shot, Killed By Officers
POSTED: 6:39 am CST December 20, 2005
UPDATED: 6:46 am CST December 20, 2005
Bobby Pounds
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Video: Suspect Shot
Images: Fatal Police Shooting
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In the last hour of his 21st birthday, a Dixmoor man was shot and killed by police after he allegedly climbed through a doughnut shop's drive-up window, robbed the store and pistol-whipped an employee.
The dead man's relatives and ministers said Bobby Pounds might have been the victim of "brute or excessive force" by police officers and called for an end to the "open season on young African-American men."
DeAndre Moore, Pounds' older brother, said what happened Sunday night "was straight out of character."
Midlothian Detective Sgt. Harold Kaufman said Monday he is "very, very confident" the officers' actions were appropriate after seeing the security video from the Dunkin' Donuts shop.
"The officers were at the right place at the right time," Kaufman said. "I honestly feel, from the beating (the victim) took, they saved his life by being there."
Pounds repeatedly used his gun to beat the employee's head and face, police said.
The victim received 19 staples and nine stitches before he was released Monday from St. Francis Hospital in Blue Island, police said.
The two officers, whom officials refused to identify, are on paid leave while the Illinois State Police public integrity unit investigates the incident.
It was the first fatal police shooting in Midlothian in at least 16 years, Kaufman said.
At 11:15 p.m. Sunday, police said Pounds walked up to the drive-up window of the shop, 14631 S. Pulaski Road, and ordered a cup of coffee and a doughnut.
The store's seating area closes at 9:30 p.m., but the window is open 24 hours.
Pounds then reached into the window, grabbed the employee and demanded money, police said.
When the worker backed up, Pounds climbed through the narrow window and pulled out a "small caliber revolver," Kaufman said.
The employee gave Pounds several hundred dollars from the cash register, but he wanted more and demanded the employee open the safe, police said.
"(The employee) told him he didn't have the key," Kaufman said. "I guess (Pounds) didn't believe him."
Meanwhile, a second employee slipped out of the shop's back door and ran to Pulaski, where he flagged down a passing police car.
The officers got out of the squad car and saw Pounds beating the store employee, Kaufman said.
Pounds turned and moved toward the front door when he spotted the officers and pointed the gun at them, Kaufman said.
The officers drew their weapons and fired up to 10 rounds, shattering two windows and a door.
"I heard four pops and thought it was fireworks," said J.J. Sebastian, who lives in an apartment building behind the doughnut shop. "Then I heard quicker ones, and I knew something was up."
Sebastian said he rushed outside and saw broken glass on the ground and more police officers rushing to the scene. The 22-year-old construction laborer had returned earlier Sunday after a weeklong vacation in Mexico.
"I wasn't excited about coming back to the snow," he said, "but I never expected a shooting and robbery next door to me. I'm pretty tired of bad things happening around here."
Pounds was taken to Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he died at 11:31 p.m., according to a Cook County medical examiner's office spokesman.
Pounds' last known address was the 5200 block of Riverside Drive in Richton Park, but relatives said he was living in Dixmoor to care for his grandmother.
DeAndre Moore said his brother attended Thornton High School in Harvey. Pounds was taking GED classes at South Suburban College and hoped to start working in construction this spring.
"He was striving to stay on the right track," Moore said as two female relatives sobbed loudly.
Pounds pleaded guilty to retail theft in 2003. He also was fined in August for attempting to solicit drugs, according to court records.
He is survived by two sons, Ryan, 4, and Justin, 17 months.
More than 20 family members gathered Monday at Midwest Memorial Chapel in Harvey to make funeral arrangements and challenge police to provide answers.
"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt," said the Rev. Lance Davis, of New Zion Christian Fellowship in Dolton. "We're here to raise questions as to the amount of force used to murder an individual and to stop the open season on young African-American men in the community."
The Rev. Donald Luster, who was a youth leader for Pounds at Arc of the Covenant Baptist Church in Dolton, said police may have used "brute or excessive force" by shooting Pounds multiple times.
"How many times does it take to get a 6-foot, 140-pound male down," he asked.
Davis said the family planned to ask police to see the security video. They want to know if Pounds attempted to surrender and if an altercation with the employees spurred his behavior.
They also questioned why there was blood outside the Dunkin' Donuts shop if Pounds was inside when he was shot.
"We should get the whole story," Davis said.
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this is crazy i never knew him to do anything like this before, went to school with him since kindergarden too...theres alotta debate on what really happened because there was blood in the driveway but they said the police shot him on the inside of the store..
Police: Officers Justified In Doughnut Shop Shooting
Robbery Suspected Shot, Killed By Officers
POSTED: 6:39 am CST December 20, 2005
UPDATED: 6:46 am CST December 20, 2005
Bobby Pounds
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Video: Suspect Shot
Images: Fatal Police Shooting
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http://www.nbc5.com/news/5584875/detail.html?rss=chi&psp=news
In the last hour of his 21st birthday, a Dixmoor man was shot and killed by police after he allegedly climbed through a doughnut shop's drive-up window, robbed the store and pistol-whipped an employee.
The dead man's relatives and ministers said Bobby Pounds might have been the victim of "brute or excessive force" by police officers and called for an end to the "open season on young African-American men."
DeAndre Moore, Pounds' older brother, said what happened Sunday night "was straight out of character."
Midlothian Detective Sgt. Harold Kaufman said Monday he is "very, very confident" the officers' actions were appropriate after seeing the security video from the Dunkin' Donuts shop.
"The officers were at the right place at the right time," Kaufman said. "I honestly feel, from the beating (the victim) took, they saved his life by being there."
Pounds repeatedly used his gun to beat the employee's head and face, police said.
The victim received 19 staples and nine stitches before he was released Monday from St. Francis Hospital in Blue Island, police said.
The two officers, whom officials refused to identify, are on paid leave while the Illinois State Police public integrity unit investigates the incident.
It was the first fatal police shooting in Midlothian in at least 16 years, Kaufman said.
At 11:15 p.m. Sunday, police said Pounds walked up to the drive-up window of the shop, 14631 S. Pulaski Road, and ordered a cup of coffee and a doughnut.
The store's seating area closes at 9:30 p.m., but the window is open 24 hours.
Pounds then reached into the window, grabbed the employee and demanded money, police said.
When the worker backed up, Pounds climbed through the narrow window and pulled out a "small caliber revolver," Kaufman said.
The employee gave Pounds several hundred dollars from the cash register, but he wanted more and demanded the employee open the safe, police said.
"(The employee) told him he didn't have the key," Kaufman said. "I guess (Pounds) didn't believe him."
Meanwhile, a second employee slipped out of the shop's back door and ran to Pulaski, where he flagged down a passing police car.
The officers got out of the squad car and saw Pounds beating the store employee, Kaufman said.
Pounds turned and moved toward the front door when he spotted the officers and pointed the gun at them, Kaufman said.
The officers drew their weapons and fired up to 10 rounds, shattering two windows and a door.
"I heard four pops and thought it was fireworks," said J.J. Sebastian, who lives in an apartment building behind the doughnut shop. "Then I heard quicker ones, and I knew something was up."
Sebastian said he rushed outside and saw broken glass on the ground and more police officers rushing to the scene. The 22-year-old construction laborer had returned earlier Sunday after a weeklong vacation in Mexico.
"I wasn't excited about coming back to the snow," he said, "but I never expected a shooting and robbery next door to me. I'm pretty tired of bad things happening around here."
Pounds was taken to Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he died at 11:31 p.m., according to a Cook County medical examiner's office spokesman.
Pounds' last known address was the 5200 block of Riverside Drive in Richton Park, but relatives said he was living in Dixmoor to care for his grandmother.
DeAndre Moore said his brother attended Thornton High School in Harvey. Pounds was taking GED classes at South Suburban College and hoped to start working in construction this spring.
"He was striving to stay on the right track," Moore said as two female relatives sobbed loudly.
Pounds pleaded guilty to retail theft in 2003. He also was fined in August for attempting to solicit drugs, according to court records.
He is survived by two sons, Ryan, 4, and Justin, 17 months.
More than 20 family members gathered Monday at Midwest Memorial Chapel in Harvey to make funeral arrangements and challenge police to provide answers.
"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt," said the Rev. Lance Davis, of New Zion Christian Fellowship in Dolton. "We're here to raise questions as to the amount of force used to murder an individual and to stop the open season on young African-American men in the community."
The Rev. Donald Luster, who was a youth leader for Pounds at Arc of the Covenant Baptist Church in Dolton, said police may have used "brute or excessive force" by shooting Pounds multiple times.
"How many times does it take to get a 6-foot, 140-pound male down," he asked.
Davis said the family planned to ask police to see the security video. They want to know if Pounds attempted to surrender and if an altercation with the employees spurred his behavior.
They also questioned why there was blood outside the Dunkin' Donuts shop if Pounds was inside when he was shot.
"We should get the whole story," Davis said.
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/20-ds1.htm
this is crazy i never knew him to do anything like this before, went to school with him since kindergarden too...theres alotta debate on what really happened because there was blood in the driveway but they said the police shot him on the inside of the store..
