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one fail at life?

Serious answers only.

(LOL at the stupid thing I just said. How Utopian does that fucking thing get?)

*LOL added to Firefox dictionary.

I'm hoping this discussion will help us understand and answer other key questions in life that have baffled humans for quite some time now...such as, why the fuck does Menace still write poetry? :confused: Somebody know?

Until next time.
 
I can probably say alot, but I guess i'll just try to get my message across..

Perhaps you "fail" in life when the goals you had set for your self aren't achieved... say me, I am working to become a Doctor... it's a long road, and I honestly feel I would be a "failure" in life if I don't become a Doctor... however, maybe If I fail in this, I succeed in something else and be happy.. so then I didn't really fail did I?

I guess it's all a matter of what you want, what you expect out your self and life... if you think being a big time business man is success and you end up a Mc Donald’s manager then maybe to you .. you failed.. but maybe to somebody else, that Mc Donald’s position is actually success! So it's all a bit relative I would say.
 
Tru Principle said:
I can probably say alot, but I guess i'll just try to get my message across..

Perhaps you "fail" in life when the goals you had set for your self aren't achieved... say me, I am working to become a Doctor... it's a long road, and I honestly feel I would be a "failure" in life if I don't become a Doctor... however, maybe If I fail in this, I succeed in something else and be happy.. so then I didn't really fail did I?

I guess it's all a matter of what you want, what you expect out your self and life... if you think being a big time business man is success and you end up a Mc Donald’s manager then maybe to you .. you failed.. but maybe to somebody else, that Mc Donald’s position is actually success! So it's all a bit relative I would say.
however, disappointment can be defined by expectations not being met. when you are disappointed, you feel failure. when you are disappointed in yourself, well.. when sofi speaks of failure, it doesn't really just apply to work.

what i can say tho is that you can't measure your life and say if you are a failure or not until it's your dying day. what if i fail, then i live for another 40 years and blossom?

no it's not possible to fail at life. that's an epic illusionary metaphorical little thing that girls have come up with to give their meaningless existance more meaning. you can grow up in the jungle and become a killer human monkey and you still haven't failed. failure hints that things are supposed to be a certain way. i don't think there are criterias which my life must pass in order for me to call it a life lol. in the more friendship/work/family sense of things, i guess you fail if you have no friends, no girlfriend, no job, or all of those things. i'd also say you fail if you're a prick, but we all know that's not true.
 
If you fail at reaching a position in life at which you feel at least somewhat happy and comfortable, and just give up on it, at least for me that would be a failure.
 
Preach said:
i guess you fail if you have no friends, no girlfriend, no job, or all of those things.
Are you kidding? That's my idea of success and something to which i am striving for.;)

But, seriously, we "fail" at life when we do not value what we have and who we are. So that's a failure without any kind of goals not reached. If we're out of touch with who we really are, then everything we do is influenced by the conditioned mind. We look for the rewards we can gain, and aren't motivated by the sheer joy of doing something. This often stems from being raised in a family where we weren't accepted for who we really were. We were made to feel that something we do is the key to acceptance and love. That then becomes our reality, and it can manifest all through life in self-doubt, low self-esteem, and the inability to try anything where we risk not succeeding.

We need to understand that learning is more important than succeeding, although not many people seem to think so. Think of all the people who get their college and graduate degrees and go out to succeed without really learning anything. Many of these people spend more than what they earn, living beyond their means in order to show that they are somebody. Their educational, career, and monetary successes teach them nothing. As a result, when they lose any part of it, their whole self-image is diminished.

What if they went out to learn first? Then success would not be important and learning would be. If success occurred it would merely be as a side effect of learning. When I do something, it's not important that I succeed, because what I'm most interested in is what I can learn. So I can run a race and feel just as good coming in last as first. Because every time I train and every time I race, I'm learning.

Try getting up in the morning with the attitude of wanting to learn. That will put your mind and emotions in a whole new stance toward that day's activities. If you're only interested in succeeding, you may reach your goal, you may have a conquest of some type, but what will you have learned in the process? Nothng. It will be a hollow success, and you yourself will still feel empty. As a result you'll create more and more goals. You'll never have achieved enough.
When you get into the learning mode, by contrast, you can never feel a failure for you will be fulfilled by the learning process.
 
Jokerman said:
Are you kidding? That's my idea of success and something to which i am striving for.;)

But, seriously, we "fail" at life when we do not value what we have and who we are. So that's a failure without any kind of goals not reached. If we're out of touch with who we really are, then everything we do is influenced by the conditioned mind. We look for the rewards we can gain, and aren't motivated by the sheer joy of doing something. This often stems from being raised in a family where we weren't accepted for who we really were. We were made to feel that something we do is the key to acceptance and love. That then becomes our reality, and it can manifest all through life in self-doubt, low self-esteem, and the inability to try anything where we risk not succeeding.

We need to understand that learning is more important than succeeding, although not many people seem to think so. Think of all the people who get their college and graduate degrees and go out to succeed without really learning anything. Many of these people spend more than what they earn, living beyond their means in order to show that they are somebody. Their educational, career, and monetary successes teach them nothing. As a result, when they lose any part of it, their whole self-image is diminished.

What if they went out to learn first? Then success would not be important and learning would be. If success occurred it would merely be as a side effect of learning. When I do something, it's not important that I succeed, because what I'm most interested in is what I can learn. So I can run a race and feel just as good coming in last as first. Because every time I train and every time I race, I'm learning.

Try getting up in the morning with the attitude of wanting to learn. That will put your mind and emotions in a whole new stance toward that day's activities. If you're only interested in succeeding, you may reach your goal, you may have a conquest of some type, but what will you have learned in the process? Nothng. It will be a hollow success, and you yourself will still feel empty. As a result you'll create more and more goals. You'll never have achieved enough.
When you get into the learning mode, by contrast, you can never feel a failure for you will be fulfilled by the learning process.
whoa agreed
 
how does one fail at life? well for starters they put the NOI in their avatar obviously not knowing what the NOI is or that it is a for african americans and you are not either african or american

sorry i just had too.
 
...such as, why the fuck does Menace still write poetry? Somebody know?

why the fuck should I stop man?

failure, like so much in life, depens on your point of view, therefor there isn't one true anwser to this question. If you believe in God, you can find anwseres there. If you don't, you can look for anwsers somewhere else, like in philosophy.... or you just try to figure it out yourself. Anyway, we'll never know what's wrong or right, until we die I guess but maybe even beyond.
 
I think failure is something you achieve instead or success or just happens to you without you're fault. It's like.. for example my mother.. Was best at studying, finished few best universities, works in one company for 35 years and all she has is a payout that's barely enough to make all payments, one son that doesn't have a father because he was a bitch and left her and tries to destroy her life till this day by showing how rich and great he is doing practically nothing, coming to our flat doing serious arguments and sometimes even fights. Also I wasn't too good when I was a kid :( Anyway I feel sorry but that's my example for failure in life.
 
A persons unbalance between the material and the spiritual world could be looked at as someone moving one step closer to failing in life. If one factor over takes the other, it is impossible for that person living this way of life to be truly happy.
 
How does one fail at life?

I love philosophical questions ...


One could fail in life if:

1) You are too expectant.

2) You are caught up in the concept of a 'social hierarchy' - (think that some ppl are better than others, and therefore think some achieve and some don't).

3) you fail to reach death - < that would be a real fucking failure, if you fail to die, what the fuck you gonna do?
This Brings the point i'd like to make to: the ultimate goal in life is death, to die.

If you have any ultimate goals in life that don't include dying, then you will be terribly, terribly dissapointed; and probably will fail!
 

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