UEFA Cup and Champions League thread.

[Flipmo]

How was the last one clearly intentional, firstly it hit his upperarm while Eto' was turning to sheild himself from the ball. Get the fuck out of here.

Oh please, Anelka.. and took a few steps and fell like he slid on 20 banana peals. He's done it plenty of times in the past. Even the pundits looked at it and said it was a harsh red and he fell way too easily.

I'm gonna bring out the vids when I get home, I can't go on youtube at work.

I was being hypothetical with the Drogba issue. Just saying if you want to call everything, Drogba would then have gotten a red.

I agree with the Norwegen ref though, but they couldn't use an English or Spanish ref, and Rosetti was already used for the Arsenal game (which is a great ref btw)... This Norwegen ref'd a few games at the Euro, and a few group matches at CL. He's given about 70 yellows and 20 reds or so in his carreer I think I read...

Why didn't they use any German or French high profile refs... Weird choice though.

 

[Bobby Sands]

The Pique one and the situation with Eto'o at the very end were clearly penalties! You say the last one was unintentional when Eto'o was holding his arm up in the sky? Yeah sure...its the same situation just like the one with Pique. You just dont put your arm like that, and if you do it and the ball hits your arm, its a penalty. Simple as that. How can you not see that?! - Like i said, i havent seen the other situations.



What the fuck? Im nearly lost for words....this was no red card? Would you please open your eyes for one second and realise that Anelka was hit at his leg which led to him falling down!! Jesus Christ....



Neither does this crap make sense. If you get a yellow card for diving, ok, then what do you think you will do in the following time? Exactly, change the way of playing aka not diving anymore. So again, wrong.



The football gods are as fucking gay as any other god.



The only person to blame is the god damn referee.

Plus: Why the hell was a fucking norwegian referee there??? You kidding me? Ive never heard of this crackpot before and the guy is fucking up in the semi-final of the champions-league.

Wrong. a ex premiership referee (Dermot Gallacher) agreed that that one wasnt a penalty nor was the Malouda one. He agreed that the Pique handball and the other one where the cheat Drogba fell were penalties, although would you blame the ref for not giving a dishonest player like Drogba a penalty. How is he to know if he dived or not?

You do realise that Barcelona had a player sent off for nothing? that Essien was lucky to stay on the field for a bad tackle on Iniesta or that Barcelona were denied a clear penalty in the nou camp.

Also Chelsea had 30% of possession over the 2 legs. While they can feel hard done by, i dont think its as bad as they are making it out to be.

Maybe if Ballack didnt duck they might have won ha ha ha.

Yea they should have appointed an Italian referee like Redknapp said last night. Now where was the referee who wrongly sent off Fletcher the other night from? yes he was Italian. fucking hypocrite.

 

[2Pax]

Chelsea should've had at least one penalty and Abidal shouldn't have been sent off.

That's my interpretation of it.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Lets all sing:

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[Sebastian]

How was the last one clearly intentional, firstly it hit his upperarm while Eto' was turning to sheild himself from the ball. Get the fuck out of here.

Its not just about being intentional! If you jump into a ball with both of your arms spread away from your body like a goalkeeper and the ball hits your arm, its a penalty even if you do not move your arm/hand intentionally towards the ball. Yes, Eto'o was turning and was holding his arm up in the sky and not to protect his face or whatever. Fuck this, clearly a penalty.

Oh please, Anelka.. and took a few steps and fell like he slid on 20 banana peals. He's done it plenty of times in the past. Even the pundits looked at it and said it was a harsh red and he fell way too easily.

I dont give a flying fuck who said jack shit. And what the hell are you talking about falling way too easily? Haha, just try it for yourself. Run at fullspeed and then someone just hits you a little bit at your leg. You will automatically hit your other leg and you will fall over.

In this case, you are as much of a moron as so many dumbass reporters who said the same things over the last years when something similar like that happened in different matches. I cant believe that anyone who has ever played football, can say stupid nonsense like "he fell way too easily". Well, i hate to break it to you guys but, the guy didnt even have the theoretical chance not to fall.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^as i said before an ex top premiership referee said that it wasnt a penalty so why do you continue to argue that it was?

man, you'd argue that black is white

 

[Sebastian]

Wrong. a ex premiership referee (Dermot Gallacher) agreed that that one wasnt a penalty nor was the Malouda one. He agreed that the Pique handball and the other one where the cheat Drogba fell were penalties, although would you blame the ref for not giving a dishonest player like Drogba a penalty. How is he to know if he dived or not?

Im not going to get into everything youve said here but the last question is easy to answer: He should open his fucking eyes!

You do realise that Barcelona had a player sent off for nothing? that Essien was lucky to stay on the field for a bad tackle on Iniesta or that Barcelona were denied a clear penalty in the nou camp.

First question i answered with the post for Flip. The other two points youve mentioned: I cant say, cant remember the situations.

 

[Sebastian]

^^as i said before an ex top premiership referee said that it wasnt a penalty so why do you continue to argue that it was?

And because this guy said it wasnt its true? Nice. Now thats a good reason. Nearly as bad as the referees performance last night.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^oh but you know more about what is and what is not a penalty than an ex premiership referee do you?

there's arrogance right there.

i agree with you about two of the decisions. but i just dont think that it is as bad as they are making it out to be.

I know you probably wanted Chelsea to win because of Ballack and the fact that he hasnt won it in his career but Chelsea haves some real overpaid assholes playing for them and thats why i dont really care. I remember Carragher saying that Chelsea players are unbelievably arrogant.

 

[Sebastian]

Of course i wanted them to go through because of ballack. I mean its no secret that i sympathize with him.

Arrogance? No, its not...and its quite obvious why its not. But let me explain it to you briefly: Now take another ex-top referee or whatever and this guy says its a penalty. What now bobby? - See, it means jack shit who the guy is.

Two more things i want to mention after having seen a youtube video:

1) The situation with malouda where the crackpot gave a freekick....this was a penalty and not a freekick. Why freekick? Because "the first foul" was outside of the box? Fuck off. There is only one foul. Inside the box. Penalty.

2) It was an english video and the idiot in the studio actually said "you can not behave like that" when they showed the scene with drogba saying "its a fucking disgrace".....whaaaaaaat!?!? Holy shit. You can not behave like that? Hello? Emotions you moron.

 

[Sebastian]

Damn, the more i see it the more im furious about this shit even though it doesnt affects me personally. I dont know why, maybe because i play football myself and ive been in similar situations (of course with lesser meaning) where you just feel so powerless because there is nothing you can do to change this blatant injustice.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Of course i wanted them to go through because of ballack. I mean its no secret that i sympathize with him.

Arrogance? No, its not...and its quite obvious why its not. But let me explain it to you briefly: Now take another ex-top referee or whatever and this guy says its a penalty. What now bobby? - See, it means jack shit who the guy is.

Two more things i want to mention after having seen a youtube video:

1) The situation with malouda where the crackpot gave a freekick....this was a penalty and not a freekick. Why freekick? Because "the first foul" was outside of the box? Fuck off. There is only one foul. Inside the box. Penalty.

2) It was an english video and the idiot in the studio actually said "you can not behave like that" when they showed the scene with drogba saying "its a fucking disgrace".....whaaaaaaat!?!? Holy shit. You can not behave like that? Hello? Emotions you moron.

The thing is, he should biased towards Chelsea in his opinions because Sky Sports is so pro-england and english clubs its unreal.

For the Malouda one, i think the fouling started outside the box. We often see situations like this.

Yea that was on Sky Sports. They are a bunch of fairies on that channel.But you can see the hypocrisy of Drogba calling someone else "a fucking disgrace"? lol

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Who cares now..Barca v Man Utd final. Move on motherfuckers.

 

[Bobby Sands]

wtf is Iniesta out for the final?

 

[2Pax]

Doesn't matter, Fletcher will have him in his pocket anyway, oh wait..

But aren't Marquez, Alvez and Abidal all out?

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^i dont think Iniesta was booked but some people on another forum were saying that he was out. i didnt think he was booked and even if he was i dont think he was carrying a yellow card going to the game

I think Marquez might be back. Sylvinho can replace Abidal and Puyol could move to right back to replace Alves.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Iniesta isn't out..

 

[Bobby Sands]

thats good, i got confused there for a bit

 

[Flipmo]

Damn, the more i see it the more im furious about this shit even though it doesnt affects me personally. I dont know why, maybe because i play football myself and ive been in similar situations (of course with lesser meaning) where you just feel so powerless because there is nothing you can do to change this blatant injustice.

I used to play awhile back, but it was mostly indoors, either way... I can see why it hits closer to home for you since you've probably been playing since you've been a kid, at least I remember you saying so.

The thing is, people expect refs to always be 100% right on everything. They're human, they make mistakes, obviously, this one was too human, and made way too many mistake. Even the best refs in history have made some shocking calls, and that includes King Colina. lol.

I can understand the emotions Chelsea players are going through, but Drogba is a prick. Even after the match Hiddink said he understands why the players would react that way, its emotions, and some calls were questionable, but he also said, they had many chances and wasted them, and that's what really hurt em.

 

[DPG iz all I C]