They are more than likely forcing her to marry this guy. So it will look good to all the bible thumping faggot voters and so it will be politically correct. You think this 18 year old hockey player kid want's to get married? I doubt it. All that's going to happen is the divorce rate will just be even more fucked up.
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They are more than likely forcing her to marry this guy. So it will look good to all the bible thumping faggot voters and so it will be politically correct. You think this 18 year old hockey player kid want's to get married? I doubt it. All that's going to happen is the divorce rate will just be even more fucked up.
I don't get involved further 'cause some of the things that were said are just stupid. Anyway.
So funny that everyboy keeps talkin about forgein policy and experience. One thing is clear, Palin doesn't have any more experience than Obama..... but why is it that people think McCain is experienced - when it comes to forgein policy? Just because he left the country once (2 fight over there in Vietnam) doesn't mean he understands politics. I even go further and say the US forgein policy pretty much ALWAYS has been shitty so I dunno why suddenly it's that big of a deal?
So funny that everyboy keeps talkin about forgein policy and experience. One thing is clear, Palin doesn't have any more experience than Obama..... but why is it that people think McCain is experienced - when it comes to forgein policy? Just because he left the country once (2 fight over there in Vietnam) doesn't mean he understands politics. I even go further and say the US forgein policy pretty much ALWAYS has been shitty so I dunno why suddenly it's that big of a deal?
State paid for trip when Palin told students to pray for pipeline: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com
It is Gods will in laying pipe line in Alaska...I don't know how American politics stands this stuff in their politicians. In Canada politicians refrain from using religion, and when they do the media is all over it.
It is Gods will in laying pipe line in Alaska...I don't know how American politics stands this stuff in their politicians. In Canada politicians refrain from using religion, and when they do the media is all over it.
lol, that's fucked up.
beein out of the country doesn't make him experienced, we are talkin about politics here. And seriously, he's older than Obama but that's about it, that doesn't mean he knows anything about forgein countries/cultures/politics. So I really don't understand why people think he has an huge advantage there.
beein out of the country doesn't make him experienced, we are talkin about politics here. And seriously, he's older than Obama but that's about it, that doesn't mean he knows anything about forgein countries/cultures/politics. So I really don't understand why people think he has an huge advantage there.
On what grounds?
There's nothing wrong with teaching "alternatives" to the theory of evolution, except that there aren't any. Just like there aren't any "alternatives" to the theory of gravity, or germ theory. "God did it!" isn't a theory.
If you're going to teach Creationism then why not teach that the human race are artificially intelligent robots built by Martians to prepare the planet for their inevitable return? Both are equally supported by the evidence.
There's nothing wrong with teaching "alternatives" to the theory of evolution, except that there aren't any. Just like there aren't any "alternatives" to the theory of gravity, or germ theory. "God did it!" isn't a theory.
If you're going to teach Creationism then why not teach that the human race are artificially intelligent robots built by Martians to prepare the planet for their inevitable return? Both are equally supported by the evidence.
sociology teaches that. i learned about many different religions and cultures in sociology, and it was in high school..
i think everyone could meet on common grounds if they were to make "Creationism" an elective in high school. So maybe it wont be in science class like Christian extremists want, but it would be in school and the students' choice whether or not to take it. So the little fat, geeky, picked on and bullied kids who dont believe in god cant bitch about having to learn it, and the uppity closet-fag kids who claim to be holier than thou nevertheless they go home and jack off because they think its less of a sin than premarital sex, can take their shit too.
i believe in creationism, so what, hang me. just because i dont believe other views doesn't mean i dont think they should be taught in school. to quote a once great philosopher, knowledge reigns supreme over nearly everyone.
i find others' views intriguing and well worth reading into, therefore i dont get it when others criticize me for what i believe in. open your mind, close your mouth, and ya might fuck around and learn something.
i think everyone could meet on common grounds if they were to make "Creationism" an elective in high school. So maybe it wont be in science class like Christian extremists want, but it would be in school and the students' choice whether or not to take it. So the little fat, geeky, picked on and bullied kids who dont believe in god cant bitch about having to learn it, and the uppity closet-fag kids who claim to be holier than thou nevertheless they go home and jack off because they think its less of a sin than premarital sex, can take their shit too.
i believe in creationism, so what, hang me. just because i dont believe other views doesn't mean i dont think they should be taught in school. to quote a once great philosopher, knowledge reigns supreme over nearly everyone.
i find others' views intriguing and well worth reading into, therefore i dont get it when others criticize me for what i believe in. open your mind, close your mouth, and ya might fuck around and learn something.
Did you parents have complete control over you in your late teens? I doubt it, unless were locked up and caged your room. I think anyone of that went through our teen years would agree our parents really didn't have any real control over us. That doesn't make our parents bad. It just means we were teenagers.
But you have to look at executive experience. Being a mayor and a governor means you have executive experience. It is a 24/7 job. You are always making decisions, unlike a person in congress. People in congress get a break and get the pleasure of saying, "yes","no", and "present". Do you know how many days the Senate has actually been in session while Obama has been a U.S. Senator? Well under 200. I think it is closer to about 150, maybe less. You don't get those types of breaks as a mayor and especially as a governor.
Also, did you admit you were a Republican?
And if you really want to compare the two individuals do so. Look at what Palin has done to reform her state and take on her own party. Look at how she has brought money into her state. The look at what Obama has done for his district as a community organizer and a state senator. That area of Chicago he represented is comparable to Hamsterdamn on the t.v. show The Wire.
But you have to look at executive experience. Being a mayor and a governor means you have executive experience. It is a 24/7 job. You are always making decisions, unlike a person in congress. People in congress get a break and get the pleasure of saying, "yes","no", and "present". Do you know how many days the Senate has actually been in session while Obama has been a U.S. Senator? Well under 200. I think it is closer to about 150, maybe less. You don't get those types of breaks as a mayor and especially as a governor.
Also, did you admit you were a Republican?
And if you really want to compare the two individuals do so. Look at what Palin has done to reform her state and take on her own party. Look at how she has brought money into her state. The look at what Obama has done for his district as a community organizer and a state senator. That area of Chicago he represented is comparable to Hamsterdamn on the t.v. show The Wire.
Did McCain flip flop or did he change his opinion? People change their opinions right? Obama was completey against firearms and signed his name to a survey where he agreed they should all be banned. But now he is for the 2nd. The difference is Obama took up stances in the primaries to appeal to a certain base. Once it became clear he was going to get the nomination he took a different stance and pissed off a lot of his supporters. They even went on his own website and cried fowl. Do you want to see him change his position? There are plenty of videos our there of singing a different tune very quickly.
Comparing Obama's experience to Palin's is becoming laughable. Palin isn't the one running for President. I know people want to think McCain is going to die in office, maybe he will, but then again maybe he wont. So why isn't Obama's lack of experience and issue with you if Palin's is?
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What I was talking about with Obama being called a muslim first starting from his own party was not about the Hillary photo. It was Sen. Kerrey (not the one who ran in '04). He was on one of the Sunday morning political shows and brought up the question, he was the first person to do so.
Also the 527 groups don't count in my opinion. They may have a political agenda but they are not direcetly party of any political party...so to speak.
The shows you have seen talking about Obama's past, are they commentators or are they actually reporting? I'm talking about real journalists doing their job and investigating, not commentators.
Comparing Obama's experience to Palin's is becoming laughable. Palin isn't the one running for President. I know people want to think McCain is going to die in office, maybe he will, but then again maybe he wont. So why isn't Obama's lack of experience and issue with you if Palin's is?
Here, watch about Obama's other last name
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What I was talking about with Obama being called a muslim first starting from his own party was not about the Hillary photo. It was Sen. Kerrey (not the one who ran in '04). He was on one of the Sunday morning political shows and brought up the question, he was the first person to do so.
Also the 527 groups don't count in my opinion. They may have a political agenda but they are not direcetly party of any political party...so to speak.
The shows you have seen talking about Obama's past, are they commentators or are they actually reporting? I'm talking about real journalists doing their job and investigating, not commentators.
You assumed were I got my information. I simply didn't add Obama's PBS viewers into the numbers.
I am not a religious person. My views on creationism would get laughed at by a person that is christian. With that said, it is laughable to suggest that Darwin's theory is credible. It is a theory that has not been proven. One could just as easily say his theory is "made up". Creationism is a theory too, one that also hasn't been proven. So it is funny to suggest one thing is a fairytale because it cannot be proven while the other is fact, even when it can't be proven.
I am not a religious person. My views on creationism would get laughed at by a person that is christian. With that said, it is laughable to suggest that Darwin's theory is credible. It is a theory that has not been proven. One could just as easily say his theory is "made up". Creationism is a theory too, one that also hasn't been proven. So it is funny to suggest one thing is a fairytale because it cannot be proven while the other is fact, even when it can't be proven.
Actually, there have been some upclose pictures of two holding hand the guy has her name tatt'd around his ring finger. I guess he was forced to get that...
From what I understand Alaska actually has offices in other countries. The governor of the state actually has to go to other countries often. That counts as forgein policy.
McCain has been in the Senate for 26 years. I think he has gained a bit of forgein policy experience beyond being a POW.
From what I understand Alaska actually has offices in other countries. The governor of the state actually has to go to other countries often. That counts as forgein policy.
McCain has been in the Senate for 26 years. I think he has gained a bit of forgein policy experience beyond being a POW.
lol, nice try there puffy, but the "one of us" comment i made was just to illustrate the "one of us" way of operating in American (and well, here in Canada too) politics, as in, if you're on our side (republican OR democrat) you can do no wrong. i made the mistake of not putting it in quotes like i should have. i don't align myself to either side. my views lean more towards the democrat side, but i certainly don't consider myself to be of their numbers. i choose to be an unbiased (yeah, i know you'll laugh at that) bystander, in that i detest both parties but detest democrats just slightly less.
hey, i never said Obama's inexperience shouldn't be an issue, it should be an issue as it is valid, but if it is, then it should be an issue with Palin as well. i still stand by my view that being the mayor of a small town and half a term as Governor in the least populated state in the union doesn't qualify as enough experience to be VP of a country of 300 million people. i don't expect that McCain, should he be elected, would die in office, but for anyone at his age, regardless of his current state of health, it is a real possibility.
you can make the argument (i certainly wouldn't disagree with you) that Obama's choice of Biden as VP was pandering as well, but at least it's helpful pandering. it makes sense that if lack of foreign policy is an issue, you should choose someone who can fill that void. McCain's choice of Palin benefits him how? well it can help to steal votes away from Democrats who wanted to vote for Hillary, but i don't see how choosing a Governor with very little experience as VP is going to help McCain at all should he get in.
hey, i never said Obama's inexperience shouldn't be an issue, it should be an issue as it is valid, but if it is, then it should be an issue with Palin as well. i still stand by my view that being the mayor of a small town and half a term as Governor in the least populated state in the union doesn't qualify as enough experience to be VP of a country of 300 million people. i don't expect that McCain, should he be elected, would die in office, but for anyone at his age, regardless of his current state of health, it is a real possibility.
you can make the argument (i certainly wouldn't disagree with you) that Obama's choice of Biden as VP was pandering as well, but at least it's helpful pandering. it makes sense that if lack of foreign policy is an issue, you should choose someone who can fill that void. McCain's choice of Palin benefits him how? well it can help to steal votes away from Democrats who wanted to vote for Hillary, but i don't see how choosing a Governor with very little experience as VP is going to help McCain at all should he get in.
now, as for the whole creationism/evolution argument, puff, are you serious? no facts to back up evolution? now that's just ridiculous. maybe you can't say the theory has been definitively proven, but there are plenty of scientific facts that back up the theory. whereas with creationism, God did it just isn't a valid enough argument to prove anything. but if you want to teach creationism in schools, go for it. as long as we also teach every other religion's beliefs on the subject as well. America claims freedom of religion right? well let's see them prove it then. forcing kids of other religions to learn specific teachings of another certainly doesn't fall under that banner of freedom.
there is the difference inbetween knowledge and belief. You said it yourself. One thing is science, one is religion - if anything there should be religion classes, creationsim can be taught there, but then there has be to religion lessons for muslims too. (And maybe a couple of other religions that's why it won't happen) .... I have no problem with that, but to just teach evolution AND the christian form of creationsim as alternative.... that's not right. One thing is belief, another science....
thx devious.
So every manager that has to go 2 another country every now and than is experienced in forgein policy, right? And that's why the US did so great in the past in forgein policy...like that Irak war and the hate it caused in the arab world, that Vietnam war or countless CIA operations in south america, tryin to avoid communism (worked beautiful if you watch the map of america right now, it's 'red' all over) ....
....so, the truth his, 2 make good forgein policy you need experience, but respect other cultures as well and you have 2 have an open mind. The US presidents fail at that regulary, only a few actually had an acceptable forgein policy. And yes, I miss respect in the republican party. What did Mac Cain say about Iran again, bomb it like in that song...? :unsure:
thx devious.
So every manager that has to go 2 another country every now and than is experienced in forgein policy, right? And that's why the US did so great in the past in forgein policy...like that Irak war and the hate it caused in the arab world, that Vietnam war or countless CIA operations in south america, tryin to avoid communism (worked beautiful if you watch the map of america right now, it's 'red' all over) ....
....so, the truth his, 2 make good forgein policy you need experience, but respect other cultures as well and you have 2 have an open mind. The US presidents fail at that regulary, only a few actually had an acceptable forgein policy. And yes, I miss respect in the republican party. What did Mac Cain say about Iran again, bomb it like in that song...? :unsure:
She I don't believe Biden actually helped out Obama at all. It went against the whole message of his campaign. Also it didn't even give him any pump in the pole number. He would have benefited more if he picked Hillary or one of the other governors that were on his short list.
But as I have already stated, picking Palin doesn't just help with the indy and undecided voters and the women voters (including democrat hillary supporters), but it alse recharged the converative base for McCain. The base was against McCain to a large extent. Most were saying they weren't going to vote for him, not vote all, or throw their vote towards Bob Barr. With the pick of Palin he has brought them back and they are much needed votes for him in this election.
The reality is pretty much all veep picks are pandering or for show. When JFK picked LBJ, Reagan picking Bush (41), Clinton/Gore, Gore/Lieberman.
I think in the context of what we were talkiing about it is more about the evidence to back up Darwin's theory of evolution when it comes to humans. I do believe that evolution exists, there is evidence to suggest many creatures and plants have and do go through evolution. But the evidence to suggest human evolution from a fish or a monkey or whatever, and to back up Darwins theory isn't really all there. All scientific evidence can be debated. Even evidence that has been said to lean towards proving Darwins theory has been argued against and debated as not being accurate.
I agree, simply saying "God did it" doesn't prove anything. But that is what theories are for, to be proven. I do not believe that God will ever be proven, the belief in God is simply based around faith within the individual. But as I said, my views on creationism is different from most peoples view (which is for a different discussion on the topic). I think if it were to be taught in school it would need to be well examined and try to take as much of the religion aspect out of it as possible, which isn't that hard to believe that it could be done.
But as I have already stated, picking Palin doesn't just help with the indy and undecided voters and the women voters (including democrat hillary supporters), but it alse recharged the converative base for McCain. The base was against McCain to a large extent. Most were saying they weren't going to vote for him, not vote all, or throw their vote towards Bob Barr. With the pick of Palin he has brought them back and they are much needed votes for him in this election.
The reality is pretty much all veep picks are pandering or for show. When JFK picked LBJ, Reagan picking Bush (41), Clinton/Gore, Gore/Lieberman.
I think in the context of what we were talkiing about it is more about the evidence to back up Darwin's theory of evolution when it comes to humans. I do believe that evolution exists, there is evidence to suggest many creatures and plants have and do go through evolution. But the evidence to suggest human evolution from a fish or a monkey or whatever, and to back up Darwins theory isn't really all there. All scientific evidence can be debated. Even evidence that has been said to lean towards proving Darwins theory has been argued against and debated as not being accurate.
I agree, simply saying "God did it" doesn't prove anything. But that is what theories are for, to be proven. I do not believe that God will ever be proven, the belief in God is simply based around faith within the individual. But as I said, my views on creationism is different from most peoples view (which is for a different discussion on the topic). I think if it were to be taught in school it would need to be well examined and try to take as much of the religion aspect out of it as possible, which isn't that hard to believe that it could be done.
well maybe that is the problem here puff. you're looking at it from an election standpoint, as in will it help him get elected. i'm talking about if he is elected, how is her lack of experience going to help McCain do his job as President? Joe Biden's foreign policy experience can help Obama greatly if he is elected. i fail to see how Palin will be able to help McCain lead at all. the pick of your VP should be about who is going to do a good job, not who is going to help you get elected. anyone who thinks the VP doesn't play an important role must have been sleeping over the last 8 years and missed the Dick Cheney show.
i really don't see how you can take God out of creationism, considering the whole idea of creationism is that God created us. can you maybe explain how this could be done? i'm kinda curious lol.
i really don't see how you can take God out of creationism, considering the whole idea of creationism is that God created us. can you maybe explain how this could be done? i'm kinda curious lol.
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