Don't Tase Me Bro Kid Speaks Out
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Of course it wasn't. unfortunately Duke most Americans are sheep who believe everything fed to them by the government. No offense Puff but I didn't see anywhere, where this kid forced his way to the mic, I saw him come to the mic an once he started asking the first question which was controversial his mic was cut and they started throwing a fit. Thats where the main problem lies. John Kerry works for us, the government works for us, we have the right to ask them any question we want, they answer to us, we don't answer to them.
An thats the main problem is too much lately i have seen liberty after liberty slowly disappear and the sheeple can't seem to put 2 an 2 together and see this. Wake the fuck up people before its too late. An no it isn't just Bush. Hillary is even worse. I bet ya even when they start putting microchips in people the sheeple still wont get it. Oh wait thats already partially started. This is why i got into law, its very interesting, we study the constitution, the bill of rights all that. Freedom of Speech is defined as the ability to say whatever you wish so long as it does not inflict harm or provoke a riot.
The right to not be subject to warrant less search and seizure. The right to due process. we have already seen these two done away with in the name of "fighting terrorism" And now we have seen a kid arrested for asking a politician an controversial question. They tell you it was resisting arrest, i don't dispute he resisted but he had every right to do, they began to remove him when he asked a question they didn't like. All I'm saying is people better wake up, the government is railroading you, you have a chance to do something now but wait too long an that chance will be gone and then its too late.
"any man who would sacrifice just one of his liberties, deserves neither life nor liberty". Benjermin Franklin
An thats the main problem is too much lately i have seen liberty after liberty slowly disappear and the sheeple can't seem to put 2 an 2 together and see this. Wake the fuck up people before its too late. An no it isn't just Bush. Hillary is even worse. I bet ya even when they start putting microchips in people the sheeple still wont get it. Oh wait thats already partially started. This is why i got into law, its very interesting, we study the constitution, the bill of rights all that. Freedom of Speech is defined as the ability to say whatever you wish so long as it does not inflict harm or provoke a riot.
The right to not be subject to warrant less search and seizure. The right to due process. we have already seen these two done away with in the name of "fighting terrorism" And now we have seen a kid arrested for asking a politician an controversial question. They tell you it was resisting arrest, i don't dispute he resisted but he had every right to do, they began to remove him when he asked a question they didn't like. All I'm saying is people better wake up, the government is railroading you, you have a chance to do something now but wait too long an that chance will be gone and then its too late.
"any man who would sacrifice just one of his liberties, deserves neither life nor liberty". Benjermin Franklin
^^ Maybe a bit extreme, but he has a point.
Slightly off-topic:
What I, as a more or less objective Euro, find immensely intriguing, is that many, many Americans, to this very day, will defend their right to bear arms with the reason that it's their right to protect themself against others and, most notably, the government. That's what the actual amandment says.
Now, for all the apparent love and affection Americans have for their basic civil rights, I find it absolutely startling that so many of them are just waved away as if they mean nothing.
You should always, always (should I say it again? I think so) ALWAYS be critical of your government and, in the bigger picture, your established order. Once this basic human right is jeopardized, yes, you do need to cry foul. That is one of the cornerstones of fucking democracy.
Slightly off-topic:
What I, as a more or less objective Euro, find immensely intriguing, is that many, many Americans, to this very day, will defend their right to bear arms with the reason that it's their right to protect themself against others and, most notably, the government. That's what the actual amandment says.
Now, for all the apparent love and affection Americans have for their basic civil rights, I find it absolutely startling that so many of them are just waved away as if they mean nothing.
You should always, always (should I say it again? I think so) ALWAYS be critical of your government and, in the bigger picture, your established order. Once this basic human right is jeopardized, yes, you do need to cry foul. That is one of the cornerstones of fucking democracy.
And thats a good point, a point which many of the founding fathers commented on. Abraham Lincoln as well said something like "If the government gets out of hand, its the peoples job to over throw it and make sure democracy reigns supreme". now those aren't his exact words, but I know what ya mean. People are just dumb Duke thats all i can chalk it up too.
this guy planted video cameras there. he knew ahead of time he was going to do something, despite what he may say.
he was told to ask his question more than a few times. he just rambled on and on. in these types of forums they usually tell people ahead of time to keep their questions and time on the mic short so that other people could get their questions in too. he went on for like 3 mins.
and i'm pretty sure it was the blow job comment that got his mic cut off.
this guy knows he was in the wrong and that his actions that day were wrong. otherwise he wouldn't have made an apology .
http://www.kirotv.com/news/14462471/detail.html
Can you be a little more specific?
I don't think people in the US aren't critical of the government. Where do you get this notion from? If you're alluding to this tazing situation, puff, keco, and the other dudes represent the opinion of the minority in the US. Most people have been very critical of the handling of the situation by the security guards, hence why most likely the charges were dropped against the kid.
I don't think people in the US aren't critical of the government. Where do you get this notion from? If you're alluding to this tazing situation, puff, keco, and the other dudes represent the opinion of the minority in the US. Most people have been very critical of the handling of the situation by the security guards, hence why most likely the charges were dropped against the kid.
Its kinds of sad to see that people are actually writing long ass posts defending what happened.
Common sense should be enough to come to the conclusion that hurting someone by tasering a person is not necessary at all, when you have 6 police officers to get rid of one person who is not armed or anything.
Common sense should be enough to come to the conclusion that hurting someone by tasering a person is not necessary at all, when you have 6 police officers to get rid of one person who is not armed or anything.
Well, I don't really want to rehash old discussions, but for example. Many Americans stand by the right to bear arms. Now, apart from whether that itself is a good thing or not, the underlying reason is self-protection from others and the state. Many laws in the States concern property, privacy laws. The government can't just barge into your home, search all your stuff and slam you in handcuffs without cause and proper procedure. Now this is a good thing. It's democratic and all an d it protects the individual from the state.
Now the part that genuinely scares me is the Patriot act type of decisions. And many, many members of the public supporting it. I mean, the CIA goes abroad and just kidnaps a citizen of another nation (little riot a month ago about that German guy), takes him or her back to the States or Gitmo, and just keeps them there for years. No legal support, no due process, no human rights. No fucking nothing.
And that could happen to me as well. To you, to my old dad, to my school teachers. Now, admittedly, since none of us are known terrorists or have connections with terrorist organizations, the chance is slim that the CIA will appear to drag us off to Cuba, however, the problem is that they reserved themselves the right to do so. I mean, we're talking about the self-proclaimed leading nation of "the free world", bastion of democracy, land of the free and brave, and not only does it's government take a walk in the park with basic democratic cornerstones, they're getting away with it to boot.
And yes, honestly, that kinda scares me. I'm thinking "what's next?". Looking at the whole international situation, at how the Bush administration managed to, almost singled-handedly, completely ruin the US' image in the world with their absolutely disastrous foreign policy, the end isn't in sight yet, either.
True, in this case. And I don't wanna put labels on people but this type of criticism often tends to come from the same corner. But yeah, maybe a bad example. It hooks in on my previous point, though. That many/some people are apparently Ok with their government giving themselves more and more authority in the light of, well, whatever big scarecrow tactic they conjured up now. Whether it be terrorist alert orange or some obnoxious kid asking a nasty question being labeled a "security risk".
One should always ask their government the question:
"Oi...why the fuck you did that like that?"
And never ever ever ever ever just accept what they feed you. They, the established order, always have more to gain (cough, Haliburton, cough, Blackwater security, cough) and more to lose (everything). And they'll slither themselves into some big twists and turns to get out of it.
Hence is why a proper democratic nation with a people that has their heart and brain in the right locations will never trust their government. By basic principle of democracy you can't allow yourself to fully trust them.
Now the part that genuinely scares me is the Patriot act type of decisions. And many, many members of the public supporting it. I mean, the CIA goes abroad and just kidnaps a citizen of another nation (little riot a month ago about that German guy), takes him or her back to the States or Gitmo, and just keeps them there for years. No legal support, no due process, no human rights. No fucking nothing.
And that could happen to me as well. To you, to my old dad, to my school teachers. Now, admittedly, since none of us are known terrorists or have connections with terrorist organizations, the chance is slim that the CIA will appear to drag us off to Cuba, however, the problem is that they reserved themselves the right to do so. I mean, we're talking about the self-proclaimed leading nation of "the free world", bastion of democracy, land of the free and brave, and not only does it's government take a walk in the park with basic democratic cornerstones, they're getting away with it to boot.
And yes, honestly, that kinda scares me. I'm thinking "what's next?". Looking at the whole international situation, at how the Bush administration managed to, almost singled-handedly, completely ruin the US' image in the world with their absolutely disastrous foreign policy, the end isn't in sight yet, either.
True, in this case. And I don't wanna put labels on people but this type of criticism often tends to come from the same corner. But yeah, maybe a bad example. It hooks in on my previous point, though. That many/some people are apparently Ok with their government giving themselves more and more authority in the light of, well, whatever big scarecrow tactic they conjured up now. Whether it be terrorist alert orange or some obnoxious kid asking a nasty question being labeled a "security risk".
One should always ask their government the question:
"Oi...why the fuck you did that like that?"
And never ever ever ever ever just accept what they feed you. They, the established order, always have more to gain (cough, Haliburton, cough, Blackwater security, cough) and more to lose (everything). And they'll slither themselves into some big twists and turns to get out of it.
Hence is why a proper democratic nation with a people that has their heart and brain in the right locations will never trust their government. By basic principle of democracy you can't allow yourself to fully trust them.
Roughly 60% of people, I believe, support the Patriot Act. The central question regarding the Patriot Act is to what extend and how should the government balance the protection of civil liberties and national security. It is not an easy question to answer because of increased terrorism. There are many organizations in the US, ACLU being the main one, that have made it a sole purpose to abolish the Act, or at least change some specific parts of it, mainly Section 215. In the current political sphere that the US finds itself in, where terror is being plotted left and right, the government will be too slow and ineffective in preventing terrorist acts if some of the civil liberties aren't impeded on. Just over a week ago, there was a good chance that over 3,000 people would have been killed if the CIA didn't cooperate with the British through electronic eavesdropping and data mining on suspected terrorists, that led to their arrests. Their plan was to blow up planes by bringing soft drinks onto the planes and then they would mix some explosive chemicals aboard the plane in them, something like that.
So, I mean, where do you draw the line?
Everything you mention here is what's debated and protested against left and right.
So, I mean, where do you draw the line?
Everything you mention here is what's debated and protested against left and right.
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