Jena 6

Little Skittle

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#1
I've searched all over this forum and haven't seen this topic which is kind of rediculous, since it's like the biggest thing in America. What do you think about it? Do you think they are being treated unfairly? Discuss.
 

PuffnScruff

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#3
this has been talked about in our block.

i do find it funny how the media got a lot of things wrong about this story when it first started to get attention and how they tried really hard to portray Bell as some great kid blah blah blah and all the usual victim stuff and then come to find out, oh yeah he has a prior and was already on probation for assault.

also how the media says Bell was convicted by an all white jury pool, but they failed to mention that there were blacks on the jury but they did not show up to jury duty.

this is a great piece by a reporter that has followed this case close and shits on the mainstream media for getting their facts wrong and not reporting important information

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/284511.html

Lessons from Jena, La.
By JASON WHITLOCK
Now we love Mychal Bell, the star of the 2006 Jena (La.) High School football team, the teenage boy who has sat in jail since December for his role in a six-on-one beatdown of a fellow student.

Thursday, thousands of us, proud African-Americans, expressed our devotion to and desire to see justice for the “Jena Six,” the half-dozen black students who knocked unconscious, kicked and stomped a white classmate.

Jesse Jackson compared Thursday’s rallies in Jena to the protests and marches that used to take place in cities like Selma, Ala., in the 1960s. Al Sharpton claimed Thursday’s peaceful demonstrations were to highlight racial inequities in the criminal justice system.

Jesse and Al, as they’re prone to do, served a kernel of truth stacked on a mountain of lies.

There are undeniable racial and economic inequities in our criminal justice system, and from afar the “Jena Six” rallies certainly looked and felt like the righteous protests of the 1960s.

But the reality is Thursday’s protests are just another sign that we remain deeply locked in denial about the path we need to travel today for true American liberation, equality and power in the new millennium.

The fact that we waited to love Mychal Bell until after he’d thrown away a Division I football scholarship and nine months of his life is just as heinous as the grossly excessive attempted-murder charges that originally landed him in jail.

Reed Walters, the Jena district attorney, is being accused of racism because he didn’t show Bell compassion when the teenager was brought before the court for the third time on assault charges in a two-year span.

Where was our compassion long before Bell got into this kind of trouble?

That’s the question that needed to be asked in Jena and across the country on Thursday. But it wasn’t asked because everyone has been lied to about what really transpired in the small southern town.

There was no “schoolyard fight” as a result of nooses being hung on a whites-only tree.

Justin Barker, the white victim, was cold-cocked from behind, knocked unconscious and stomped by six black athletes. Barker, luckily, sustained no life-threatening injuries and was released from the hospital three hours after the attack.

A black U.S. attorney, Don Washington, investigated the “Jena Six” case and concluded that the attack on Barker had absolutely nothing to do with the noose-hanging incident three months before. The nooses and two off-campus incidents were tied to Barker’s assault by people wanting to gain sympathy for the “Jena Six” in reaction to Walters’ extreme charges of attempted murder.

Much has been written about Bell’s trial, the six-person all-white jury that convicted him of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated battery and the clueless public defender who called no witnesses and offered no defense. It is rarely mentioned that no black people responded to the jury summonses and that Bell’s public defender was black.

It’s almost never mentioned that Bell’s absentee father returned from Dallas and re-entered his son’s life only after Bell faced attempted-murder charges. At a bond hearing in August, Bell’s father and a parade of local ministers promised a judge that they would supervise Bell if he was released from prison.

Where were the promises and supervision before any of this?

It’s rarely mentioned that Bell was already on probation for assault when he was accused of participating in Barker’s attack. And it’s never mentioned that white people in the “racist” town of Jena provided Bell support and protected his football career long before Jesse, Al, Bell’s father and all the others took a sincere interest in Mychal Bell

You won’t hear about any of that because it doesn’t fit the picture we want to paint of Jena, this case, America and ourselves.

We don’t practice preventive medicine. Mychal Bell needed us long before he was cuffed and jailed. Here is another undeniable, statistical fact: The best way for a black (or white) father to ensure that his son doesn’t fall victim to a racist prosecutor is by participating in his son’s life on a daily basis.

That fact needed to be shared Thursday in Jena. The constant preaching of that message would short-circuit more potential “Jena Six” cases than attributing random acts of six-on-one violence to three-month-old nooses.

And I am in no way excusing the nooses. The responsible kids should’ve been expelled. A few years after I’d graduated, a similar incident happened at my high school involving our best football player, a future NFL tight end. He was expelled.

The Jena school board foolishly overruled its principal and suspended the kids for three days.

But the kids responsible for Barker’s beating deserve to be punished. The prosecutor needed to be challenged on his excessive charges. And we as black folks need to question ourselves about why too many of us can only get energized to help our young people once they’re in harm’s way.

I’ve been the spokesman for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Kansas City for six years. Getting black men to volunteer to mentor for just two hours a week to the more than 100 black boys on a waiting list is a yearly crisis. It’s a nationwide crisis for the organization. In Kansas City, we’re lucky if we get 20 black Big Brothers a year.

You don’t want to see any more “Jena Six” cases? Love Mychal Bell before he violently breaks the law.
 

AmerikazMost

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#5
I agree with the article that Puff posted for the most, except notably with the assetion that the nooses had nothing to do with it. That's like saying the economic conditions in the interwar period had nothing to do with Hitler obtaining power in Germany.

The black students were way over-prosecuted and white students weren't prosecuted for anything. A white kid threatens black kids with a gun, and the black kid gets charged with theft of a firearm for defending himself against it. And a shoe is a deadly weapon? Ha.

I'm not up on what charges were reduced to and for whom, but I'm glad that the protests, however extreme their viewpoints on it are, are tempering the extremeness of the charges.
 

Euphanasia

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#8
^Sure, I'm not disputing that fact at all. What I'm disputing is trying these "kids" as adults for attempted murder for jumping some dude and roughing him up.
 

Duke

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#10
I have no doubt that the south of the US is racist as fuck and that often enough blacks get way worse treatment than whites.

HOWEVER, this particular case is probably a very bad example for black activists, since in the end, they still went 6 to 1 on some beatdown shit. If you and 5 of your cronies beat 1 kid of the same age unconscious, I don't care what caused it and whether the victim deserved it or not, but fact is you're a bit of a pussy and you just violently attacked another "man". All this BS of they're innocent is merely positive racism.
 

Synful*Luv

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#11
The article was phenomenal Puff. I'd rep you but I can't.

The thing is, yeah there are underlying issues of racial injustice in this situation but that shouldn't overpower the actual issue at hand as it is doing. I agree American black people need to come together to put a hault to the pending issues that may cause issues later on in life instead of crying about racial injustice after the fact
 

PuffnScruff

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#13
so even if Bell is a repeat violent offender with a history of assault and was on probation when the attack happend his trial should just be tossed out?
 

Duke

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#14
so even if Bell is a repeat violent offender with a history of assault and was on probation when the attack happend his trial should just be tossed out?

Aye. It was not like these were 6 A-grade boy scout school kids pushed by heinous racism to this act. Those kids were little crooks from the get-go.
 

AmerikazMost

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#15
I think the parties involved have been through enough. No further punishment is necessary. So yes, Free Jena 6
That's an awful argument. Plenty of people go through a lot worse than they did.

They committed assault, and they should be punished. that's not disputable. The only things that are disputable are the charges and the lack of charges for any of the whites involved.
 

Euphanasia

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#16
That's an awful argument. Plenty of people go through a lot worse than they did.

They committed assault, and they should be punished. that's not disputable. The only things that are disputable are the charges and the lack of charges for any of the whites involved.

It seems to me like you're saying that Jena 6 should be punished for committing assault. Then saying that the only problem is that some whites haven't been charged/punished for their roles. So are you ignoring the fact that the reason why we even know about this case is because of the discrimination and absurd initial attempted murder charge that the prosecution wanted to pursue? That is the whole reason for outrage in regards to this case. I don't think there are many people who would disagree with your argument that Jena 6 should be punished for committing assault. That's not the issue here. Now, it is my understanding that the bullshit charge has been dropped and the kids are out of jail, but I may be wrong about that. But what has provoked outrage is that people actually wanted to charge these youths with assault with a deadly weapon for kicking somebody. This seems problematic, no? If you think not, you're probably in the minority. So what needs to be looked into is the racial problem that is still ongoing in this country, especially in the south.
 

AmerikazMost

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#17
It seems to me like you're saying that Jena 6 should be punished for committing assault. Then saying that the only problem is that some whites haven't been charged/punished for their roles. So are you ignoring the fact that the reason why we even know about this case is because of the discrimination and absurd initial attempted murder charge that the prosecution wanted to pursue? That is the whole reason for outrage in regards to this case. I don't think there are many people who would disagree with your argument that Jena 6 should be punished for committing assault. That's not the issue here. Now, it is my understanding that the bullshit charge has been dropped and the kids are out of jail, but I may be wrong about that. But what has provoked outrage is that people actually wanted to charge these youths with assault with a deadly weapon for kicking somebody. This seems problematic, no? If you think not, you're probably in the minority. So what needs to be looked into is the racial problem that is still ongoing in this country, especially in the south.
I do agree with all of that. What I don't agree with is letting these kids off because of it.

Punish them for what they did. Don't punish them more than what they should be because they're black, and don't let them off because off all the surrounding events.
 

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