Tupac's ambiguity

[Mr.Deuce]

OMG! LOL

"I won't deny ya, I'm a straght writer, you don't wanna fuck with me, got the police bustin at me, but they can't do nothing to a G
My ambitionz as a writer!"

LOL
wtf you talking about man?"ridah" doesnt excist and shit.
ridah=rida=ryda=ridah=rydah=RIDER
comes from "to ride".in that context a "baller, a thug, someone who´s on the streets, in his car "dippin´",when does pac mean when he says "souljah" or "soulja", "souljah", "soulja" doesnt excist but it means
"soldier"?c´mon man grow up!

Thugish
Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Serbia
Posts: 6

lol wtf man, where youve been?

 

[Thugish]

Here and there, a little bit of everywhere....i forgot about this forum, now im back....used to read this on hitemup.com, wayback......

 

[Mr.Deuce]

yeah www.hitemup.com was dope.
ive seen ppl registered in 2002/03 but with 5 posts and shit.

 

[Bender]

LOL
wtf you talking about man?"ridah" doesnt excist and shit.
ridah=rida=ryda=ridah=rydah=RIDER
comes from "to ride".in that context a "baller, a thug, someone who´s on the streets, in his car "dippin´",when does pac mean when he says "souljah" or "soulja", "souljah", "soulja" doesnt excist but it means
"soldier"?c´mon man grow up!

What I'm saying makes perfect sense, think about it for a second ...

1) Tupac is not a mutherfucking street racer; Tupac is a Rapper, a Poet, a Scriptwriter/ a Playwrite, an Artist - writing is what he did for a living.

I never heard him say he had any ambitions to be a taxi driver or a pizza delivery guy or any other occupation that involved driving, riding, or 'dippin' in his car.

Tupac was a Writer, full stop.

 

[Mr.Deuce]

^^ people like:

2pac
ruff ryders
damu ridaz

they are all rappers but

NOT TAXI DRIVERS OR PIZZA DELIVERY GUYS

but they still use the word "to ride"

 

[y_noble]

Lol, that's a metaphor.



This is ambiguity when he says:

'Wit no hope, lil skinny mutha fucka wantin dope,
I hated cuttin suckas wit my razor blade
But everyday, Its a struggle to get major paid'

He's not talking about slashing people with razors, he's saying that he's a sharp motherfucker.

@ Yeshua

Lol at you trying to skool him by saying his example was a metaphor and turn around and give an example that is a metaphor as well!

What's even more funny is that metaphors are a FORM of ambiguity! So he was right after all. If you open a book on social science you'll see that language equals power and metaphor's are a form of ambiguity to gain "power". Just like how rapper use metaphor's: they choose to be ambiguous by using metaphors when they could have just stated WHAT they meant by it.

By 2pac saying "up and down like a rollercoaster", he uses a form of ambiguity so you can choose how to interpret this. Obviously most of us know HOW he used this metaphor, but we EACH have a different picture of what we think is what 2pac meant.

Conclusion:
Rap = metaphors
Metaphors = ambiguity
Rap = ambiguous

 

[S O F I]

It's threads like this that attempt to make 2pac bigger than he is that make me want to commit murder.

 

[Kadafi Son]

It's threads like this that attempt to make 2pac bigger than he is that make me want to commit murder.

EDIT: READ WRONG

 

[y_noble]

It's threads like this that attempt to make 2pac bigger than he is that make me want to commit murder.

It's people like you who are so obsessed with the internet, that they feel the urge to kill themselves after reading stupid forum topics


On the real though, that "will I suck seed" line cracks me up EVERY time.

 

[S O F I]

It's people like you who are so obsessed with the internet, that they feel the urge to kill themselves after reading stupid forum topics

lol I said commit murder, not suicide. :thumb::thumb:

 

[y_noble]

Lol, my bad. Thought I read that you wanted to commit murder to yourself haha. Anyway, one things has been consistent throughout the years on 2pac-boards: ignorance and people posting a lot of DUMB shit .

On the Makaveli forum someone brilliantly asked what they bleeped out in This Ain't Livin. That's a classic topic and some actually still believe that they bleeped out "disappear and reappear ..."

 

[Mr.Deuce]

some actually still believe that they bleeped out "disappear and reappear ..."

^^ lol.
p.s.
dude, you joined since jan 03 and have only 64 posts?

 

[y_noble]

I was here before 2003, but I don't have my old nickname anymore (I can't remember if I just lost it, or that generally a lot of nicks were lost during the end of that HitEmUp period).

I've been around pretty much since the beginning of this forum. I used to go by the nickname Big Man, but even then I was more of a forum-reader than a forum-poster. I hadn't been really active on Streethop.com until recently.

 

[Mr.Deuce]

^^ now its time boy .
good luck.

BACK 2 TOPIC!

 

[Bender]

This thread is all about 2pacs lyrics being cryptic. If anyone else has any examples I would be glad to hear them.

 

[UnCommon]

suck seed hahaha

 

[Ricardo]

lol at the guy who doesnt know what a Ridah is

When We Ride On Our Enemies<<<You think hes in a Taxi or something?

Ridah, Balla, Mack, Playa, True G...theyre just words man, theyre not literal.

He means like I'm down to RIDE to do anything I have to do to succeed and survive, and then When We RIDE on Our Enemies could be taken as theyre RIDING around to do a driveby, to exterminate their foes, even though hes doing it lyrically, hes RIDING on them lyrically

 

[Bender]

lol at the guy who doesnt know what a Ridah is

When We Ride On Our Enemies<<<You think hes in a Taxi or something?

Ridah, Balla, Mack, Playa, True G...theyre just words man, theyre not literal.

He means like I'm down to RIDE to do anything I have to do to succeed and survive, and then When We RIDE on Our Enemies could be taken as theyre RIDING around to do a driveby, to exterminate their foes, even though hes doing it lyrically, hes RIDING on them lyrically

This exacly what I'm talking about: semantics.

When tupac says "I'm 165 staying high til I die" (open fire) he's not talking about smoking weed and being 'high' he's talking about how high he is in centimetres

 

[Euphanasia]

^lmao!

 

[HipHop77]

Lol, that's a metaphor.



This is ambiguity when he says:

'Wit no hope, lil skinny mutha fucka wantin dope,
I hated cuttin suckas wit my razor blade
But everyday, Its a struggle to get major paid'

He's not talking about slashing people with razors, he's saying that he's a sharp motherfucker.

good one, thas a good example