Militant's Rant against people who can't mind their own damn business

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#43
My world, does indeed revolve around me. It revolves around the people I love and care for. The spiritual balance that only I can control.
Do you see love as being exclusive? We like to think that love, like everything else, is limited. But I've found that, on the contrary, there are no shortages. Why is love made to be exclusive? Why not love everyone? Think of the consequences of that. I'm asking whether you are open to expressing and sharing the joy and inner harmony of life? You should love and care for your neighbor, which includes that lady. Love is inside of you; it's not something outside of yourself with the ones you love.

"Obese Jamaican bitch” are not words that come from a loving spirit; they come from an over-reactive one. Over-reaction usually stems from insecurity. It's a defense mechanism that keeps you from going forward in a situation. By over-reacting, you focus on the reaction itself rather than on a realistic plan to confront a problem and make constructive change. In this situation, the problem is that most nonsmokers do not want smoke anywhere near them because cigarette smoke is very permeating and contains over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing compounds and 400 other toxins, many of which are noxious to the non-addicted. All it takes is one stray molecule to irritate a nonsmoker's breathing. I've easily smelled smoke 20 ft (6 meters) away, especially on a hot day. So nonsmokers don't want that near them no matter what the law says because the law doesn't solve the problem. Now you, rather than confront this problem and make a constructive change like giving up smoking, or really moving away from a captive audience when you smoke, or just not smoking when you're standing around other people, you choose to get defensive and fall back on your legal right.

Even though this is a relatively minor incident, it's indicative of a pattern most people follow on a larger scale. They react and retaliate. You retaliated by saying, "If you have a problem, go ahead and call the cops then." Yes, you could have said worse but it’s retaliation nevertheless. Retaliation is an infantile behavior and an inhumane way to respond to other people. When you strike back at other people it shows your need to be right at any cost. You also reacted to Preach and retaliated with personal remarks that were uncalled for. If you catch yourself thinking about retaliation, stop to consider both the reasons why and the consequences of doing so. Why do I want to retaliate? What will happen if I do? How would it feel to be on the other end of what I'm about to do or say? If it doesn't feel good, then you shouldn't act on this negative impulse.

We can change the way we deal with something that's thrown on us. Forget about "what they said." That's their burden. Your reaction is the only thing that's yours. Are you aware of the quality of energy you put out every time you say, do or think something? Do you contemplate the positive or negative consequences of your actions? Bringing a loving and caring spirit to bear on situations allow you to empathize with others. When you are sensitive to yourself, other people and the world around you, your real nature will manifest. You must be a light in the world.
 

Casey

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Staff member
#45
Do you see love as being exclusive? We like to think that love, like everything else, is limited. But I've found that, on the contrary, there are no shortages. Why is love made to be exclusive? Why not love everyone? Think of the consequences of that. I'm asking whether you are open to expressing and sharing the joy and inner harmony of life? You should love and care for your neighbor, which includes that lady. Love is inside of you; it's not something outside of yourself with the ones you love.

"Obese Jamaican bitch” are not words that come from a loving spirit; they come from an over-reactive one. Over-reaction usually stems from insecurity. It's a defense mechanism that keeps you from going forward in a situation. By over-reacting, you focus on the reaction itself rather than on a realistic plan to confront a problem and make constructive change. In this situation, the problem is that most nonsmokers do not want smoke anywhere near them because cigarette smoke is very permeating and contains over 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known cancer-causing compounds and 400 other toxins, many of which are noxious to the non-addicted. All it takes is one stray molecule to irritate a nonsmoker's breathing. I've easily smelled smoke 20 ft (6 meters) away, especially on a hot day. So nonsmokers don't want that near them no matter what the law says because the law doesn't solve the problem. Now you, rather than confront this problem and make a constructive change like giving up smoking, or really moving away from a captive audience when you smoke, or just not smoking when you're standing around other people, you choose to get defensive and fall back on your legal right.

Even though this is a relatively minor incident, it's indicative of a pattern most people follow on a larger scale. They react and retaliate. You retaliated by saying, "If you have a problem, go ahead and call the cops then." Yes, you could have said worse but it’s retaliation nevertheless. Retaliation is an infantile behavior and an inhumane way to respond to other people. When you strike back at other people it shows your need to be right at any cost. You also reacted to Preach and retaliated with personal remarks that were uncalled for. If you catch yourself thinking about retaliation, stop to consider both the reasons why and the consequences of doing so. Why do I want to retaliate? What will happen if I do? How would it feel to be on the other end of what I'm about to do or say? If it doesn't feel good, then you shouldn't act on this negative impulse.

We can change the way we deal with something that's thrown on us. Forget about "what they said." That's their burden. Your reaction is the only thing that's yours. Are you aware of the quality of energy you put out every time you say, do or think something? Do you contemplate the positive or negative consequences of your actions? Bringing a loving and caring spirit to bear on situations allow you to empathize with others. When you are sensitive to yourself, other people and the world around you, your real nature will manifest. You must be a light in the world.
God, you're totally right Jokerman. Usually that would be my thinking. I wouldn't normally react that way and thinking about it I can't even remember another incident where I have done. I think my mindstate right now is somewhere where it shouldn't be. I'm stressed out and not thinking clearly.

My wife is about to arrive here in a few days, I'm basically working two full time jobs since we have a new album coming out and I have to do promo for that every day, I love and enjoy it and wouldn't have it any other way but it seems right now I'm not focusing on my awareness and soul the way I should be. Thanks man, that really helped.

Anyway I'd just like to make the quick point that it wasn't intended to be a retaliation and I didn't speak out of anger. I actually spoke calmly, and explained to her that she was wrong. I explained that the law only applied to the enclosed space. She didn't ask me to move away out of respect for her and her health concerns. She may even have been a smoker herself, who knows? She nastily told me I was breaking the law. I calmly explained that I wasn't. Yeah I may have gone over the top in this thread and the original post, but it's not like I said that at the time, or even reacted in any angry way whatsoever. Like I said - if she meant that she wanted me to move further away because she didn't want to be near the smoke, she should have said that. In fact, as I've said there was somebody behind her smoking that was even closer to her proximity but wasn't in her line of vision.

Thanks, Jokerman. You really did help. You provided me with a perspective that should be and for the most part, already is mine. I don't know why I felt differently that day, I guess it's all subjective. I'm not saying I was necessarily wrong in my reaction to that incident, I don't believe I was although I could have shown a bit more compassion. The way I put it across in this thread, though, was wrong of me and no doubt I'll feel a negative karmic reaction to my bad energy for it somewhere down the line. I kind of feel like I've really made this out to be more than it was. Guess I just needed to vent.

Anyway, we all make mistakes, I'm human just like anyone else.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#47
well since you did that i'll say that the perspective he gave you was the one i tried but failed to give you, for what that's worth, which is also why i said i know i'm right and you're wrong and i'm not gonna be a low joe but i'm so glad he responded lol :D

anyway yeah, nice that we can move past this now.
 

Casey

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#48
well since you did that i'll say that the perspective he gave you was the one i tried but failed to give you, for what that's worth, which is also why i said i know i'm right and you're wrong and i'm not gonna be a low joe but i'm so glad he responded lol :D

anyway yeah, nice that we can move past this now.
It's not a case of right or wrong though. And in some ways I can actually find a parellel with the situation that happened and the situation here now. You say that your opinion was akin to Jokerman's, but it didn't come across that way, so you didn't get the same reponse from me that Jokerman did, just like, the woman may have been trying to convey a point, but didn't communicate what she really meant to say in an effective manner. You are akin to the proverbial woman's actual words and Jokerman is akin to the proverbial woman's actual thought process.

It's all about presentation. Like two birthday presents, one wrapped in nice shiny gift paper, and one in nasty hobo trampy tatty ripped cardboard box with mold on it, with flies landing on it.

Zimbabwe - I care, kthxbye :D - by the way we have a big BBC Radio 1 live session on Sunday 16th (see sig)......Ishmael, from Jozi is flying in to perform with us as he is on two tracks from the album. So should have some photos and video etc after that.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#51
It's not a case of right or wrong though. And in some ways I can actually find a parellel with the situation that happened and the situation here now. You say that your opinion was akin to Jokerman's, but it didn't come across that way, so you didn't get the same reponse from me that Jokerman did, just like, the woman may have been trying to convey a point, but didn't communicate what she really meant to say in an effective manner. You are akin to the proverbial woman's actual words and Jokerman is akin to the proverbial woman's actual thought process.
yeah i was mostly just doing the scale joke that you throw at the end normally, to sweeten things up a little.

my opinion and my stance in life is nowhere near Jokerman's, but i agree with him on this particular matter. you're right. i am to you that woman, and he is me then lol. either way, while you do not think you made a mistake or whatever way you put it, you did acknowledge that the way your thoughts went about forming them is not typical to you. very fair, i have this happen to me too now and again. losing your temper, your wits, some times one might question if one's lost his own sanity.

so let me present my point differently then. you are part of the young generation. you do not have several decades of bias embedded in your head. it's up to you to embed whatever you want in it. the fact that you respect people and believe in karma is good in the sense that it makes you selfless, but the important thing to remember for every human that it's not always our main principles that makes us feel lost. often, within the confinements of who we think we are, we lie to ourselves and make mistakes.

i wasn't trying to say that you're a bad person, just that you probably did overreact as you yourself admitted, and that within the confinements being a selfless person you probably took your own kindness for granted and didn't think about it. you said you've been confused or stressed lately, you have wifey coming over, new album, it's allowed. it's not illegal :D but nevertheless, i'm gonna stick with what i said that however you physically responded to her, your mental process was premature and prejudgmental and unfair. you make up for these things by acting grown-up.

you're back to zero now. ;p
 

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