Technology 360 vs. ps3

[Prize Gotti]

Blu Ray = BetaMax

Blu Ray is Sony Exclusive. They made that mistake with the BetaMax.

No 3rd party Blu Ray players = Death of Blu Ray.

 

[S. Fourteen]

Blu Ray = BetaMax

Blu Ray is Sony Exclusive. They made that mistake with the BetaMax.

No 3rd party Blu Ray players = Death of Blu Ray.

Sony, Hitachi, HP, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Phillips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, Dell and Apple adapting the Blu Ray format = you trying to convince yourself that you made the right decision

I got luv for sony but they must be crazy with the prices..

Industry analysts are saying that Sony is losing money every time a PS3 sold. Meaning you are getting more than what you're paying. And guess how much the first HD-DVD player by Toshiba was in 2006? about $1000.

 

[Jeremy]

Blue-ray will win the war. 360 will end up having a blue-ray add-on for $199 like the HD-DVD drive. Doesn't matter to me tho, fuck paying $25-35 dollars for a blue-ray movie. No way in hell. I'm happy with my hundreds of DVD's.

 

[_carmi]

^i know eh blu rays movies are fuxcking expensive. is there really a big difference between hd dvds and blu rays?

 

[Jeremy]

^^ Not at all, they both look good to me.

 

[PaulyPac]

Blu-Ray = more storage

 

[ARon]

Sony, Hitachi, HP, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Phillips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, Dell and Apple adapting the Blu Ray format = you trying to convince yourself that you made the right decision

Industry analysts are saying that Sony is losing money every time a PS3 sold. Meaning you are getting more than what you're paying. And guess how much the first HD-DVD player by Toshiba was in 2006? about $1000.

LOL at the first part. Nice.

Microsoft and Sony all lose money with each console sold, it's been happenin since at least the days of PS2 that I know of. They make their money from games being sold. Not sure if they are dropping the price but using the first prices I was reading estimates of $200 dollar losses per unit sold.

People can cry about the price all you want but the ps3 and also the 360 are great great deals. If you sold this with markups of other electronics like Stereo TV or computer we'd be looking at around $1500 dollar price tags.

Also you cant really tell a difference between HD and Blu Ray right now cus Blu Ray is ahead of its time. More memory equals better everything, and with the amount the Blu Ray offers shit is gonna get crazy.

 

[yak pac fatal]

didnt ps2 have a slow start?

 

[S O F I]

My friend bought a brand new ps3 (the 60 gig one) from some dude last night. We hooked it up to his normal TV, which is about 28 inches, and the graphics don't appear to be any better than on ps2. Does this mean you have to have HDTV to experience PS3's graphics?

 

[Sebastian]

Yes Sofi, you are smart.

(I think i said that before)

 

[Jeremy]

Blu-Ray = more storage

http://www.streethop.com/forums/our-block/t-500-gb-on-a-regular-hd-dvd-or-blu-ray-disc-63880.html

 

[S O F I]

My friend bought a brand new ps3 (the 60 gig one) from some dude last night. We hooked it up to his normal TV, which is about 28 inches, and the graphics don't appear to be any better than on ps2. Does this mean you have to have HDTV to experience PS3's graphics?

anybody else besides sebastian's dumb ass know? For example, what's the best TV to buy, how big, etc?

 

[_carmi]

My friend bought a brand new ps3 (the 60 gig one) from some dude last night. We hooked it up to his normal TV, which is about 28 inches, and the graphics don't appear to be any better than on ps2. Does this mean you have to have HDTV to experience PS3's graphics?

yeah.

 

[ARon]

How do you figure?

Even if they keep selling at the same rate, they will still be making profit, just not as much.

But, rule of thumb is, when you lower the price, you increase #'s sold.

Sorry I never responded earlier but I just noticed your post...

"Describing the PS3 as an "engineering masterpiece," iSuppli estimates that the more expensive $599 console costs $840.35 to build, leaving Sony with a $241.35 loss on each console. The picture is worse for the cheaper, $499 version. Sony takes a hit of $306.85 per $499 console sold,"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061116-8239.html

They lost money with ps2 also. But yeah they can do this cus of the games sold.

I would think more people would cry about the 360 price than the ps3, Micosoft makes $75.70 per 360 sold.

 

[Jeremy]

Blu-ray is the only reason they lose money on them.

 

[Kareem]

anybody else besides sebastian's dumb ass know? For example, what's the best TV to buy, how big, etc?

I run mine on a 32 in. LCD using the HDMI it outputs 1080i for me, looks awesome. Ya really gotta upgrade to HDMI and a hd capable tv to see how the PS3 really looks. Just running the composite cables that come with it wont show ya anything. As far as what kinda tv to use it on, anything that is capable of 720p or better and has a HDMI port. I paid $600 for my LCD tv bran new an i can't complain the picture is awesome.

 

[Jeremy]

I have a Sony KDS-50A2000 SXRD 50 inch 1080i Full HD. Awesome picture, I love this TV. If you're on a budget my friend has a Westinghouse that has a great picture on it. Cheaper price TV's that have good picture are, Westinghouse, Vizio, LG. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer are a little more expensive but are great TV's. You really gotta do research and see which one is right for you or your budget. I have seen some great deals on www.newegg.com and some on amazon. If you're wondering what 720p, 1080i, and 1080p is it's resolution. Ex. 1080 = 1920x1080 resolution. 1080i has the fastest frame rate also. Plasmas have rich colors and deep blacks. If you have a price range I can link you to the best options. I have spent countless hours doing this type stuff and learning about them. I'm always looking for deals. This is a great one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889187044

My TV-

 

[ARon]

Blu-ray is the only reason they lose money on them.

"Topping the list is the Reality Synthesizer from NVIDIA, which handles the PS3's graphics. According to iSuppli, Sony's cost for that chip is $129. Sony's decision to outfit the PS3 with Blu-ray costs $125 per unit, while the Cell CPU from IBM runs $89. Miscellaneous other components and manufacturing costs add another $148 to the total"

 

[S O F I]

Sorry I never responded earlier but I just noticed your post...

"Describing the PS3 as an "engineering masterpiece," iSuppli estimates that the more expensive $599 console costs $840.35 to build, leaving Sony with a $241.35 loss on each console. The picture is worse for the cheaper, $499 version. Sony takes a hit of $306.85 per $499 console sold,"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061116-8239.html

They lost money with ps2 also. But yeah they can do this cus of the games sold.

I would think more people would cry about the 360 price than the ps3, Micosoft makes $75.70 per 360 sold.

Well, the statement I made was on an assumption that the company is not retarded enough to produce when marginal cost of making the product exceeds the marginal revenue. But, I guess if they get that money back in games and other shit, it makes sense.

 

[Jeremy]

Looks like the price had already dropped. Some people are saying some stores have already dropped the price.

Culver City (CA) - Just two days ahead of its E3 press briefing, Sony has brought the price of the Playstation 3 down from $600 to $500. An 80 GB model is also now slated for the U.S. The new price is effective as of today, July 9. It's a move that now puts new attention on Sony for this week's E3 Media & Business Summit, which officially kicks off on Wednesday.

News began circulating last week that retailers had begun adding a new SKU (stock keeping unit) for the $500 unit, but Sony refused to comment on the prospect of an official price cut. Sony president Ryoji Chubachi even told Reuters in an interview, "At present, we have no plans," just a few days ago.

The new price is the same as the launch date price for the now defunct 20 GB PS3. The current model has a 60 GB hard drive. To fill the void set by the discontinued 20 GB console, Sony also announced that it is working on bringing an 80 GB model to the US. Already deployed in South Korea, the 80 GB model would bring Sony a bit closer in the HDD wars against Microsoft, which launched a new Xbox 360 with a 120 GB hard drive in April. The new PS3 will take over the 60 GB model's former price point of $600 when it goes on sale next month.

Less than eight months after its release, the PS3's price drop is one of the quickest in recent console generations. The typical length of time between a new system and its first price cut is around a year and a half. Nintendo's Gamecube, which premiered at around $200, didn't see a price drop until about 17 months after its November 2001 debut. Likewise, its handheld gaming device the Game Boy Advance stood at $100 for 21 months before getting a modest cut to $80.

Sony's own PS2 stuck at its initial MSRP of $300 for over 18 months before it dropped down by $100.

However, Microsoft's Xbox, plagued by many of the same problems as the PS3, lived just six months at a $300 retail price, and then was cut down to $200. The Xbox 360, on the other hand, has yet to see a price change from its $400 beginning price set in November 2005.

Current estimates at Nextgenwars.com show the PS3 well behind its two competitors. The site states that around 3.6 million PS3 consoles have been sold worldwide, compared to 8.6 million Wii units and 11.4 million Xbox 360s.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32808/98/