Film & TV Making a Murderer
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I watched most of the first season but I couldn't stand it. I know all documentary film makers have some kind of bias but to me it seemed to be so one sided i couldn't stand it. Much like Serial. The host of that seemed to eat up anything Adnan said. I feel like I could convince her that the sky is green and grass is blue.
Side note that Evil Genius doco was very good.
Side note that Evil Genius doco was very good.
yall need to watch season 2. the evidence points at avery being framed. so many lies were told by the coppers and even by brandan dasseys brother (who the cops knew was into pedo and violent porn and used it against him to lie about steven) and step father. avery's blood vial was clearly tempered with. his blood was planted in the truck. this was supposed to a bloody murder. where the blood at? halbach's family show no emotion. without a single thought they believe avery is guilty.
On the day the murder was believed to have been committed (October 31, 2005), a witness placed Scott Tadych, visiting Bobby Dassey, at the Avery salvage yard at "around noon" - this contradicts Tadych's story that he was in Green Bay visiting his mother at the hospital.
"After Teresa called the Dassey landline for directions, our suspect contacted her back with the Dassey address," Zellner said.
The defence lawyer then went on to explain that Teresa arrived on Avery's salvage yard "around 2.30–2.31pm" that same day, where "only Bobby and Steven saw her".
"After completing her photo assignment, [Teresa] left & turned West on Hwy 147 around 2.38pm Our suspect followed her. Steven was in his trailer," Zellner claimed.
Avery's attorney then claimed that her suspect got Halbach to pull over. "She opened her car's rear cargo door to retrieve her camera, was knocked to the ground and struck with an object," she alleged.
From here, according to this theory, Teresa "was put in the rear cargo area of the RAV4" and driven back to the Avery's salvage yard. Zellner added that the RAV4 "was spotted leaving" the yard "with an unknown driver" at 3.45pm by multiple witnesses.
The car was then "left by the old dam West of Mishicot" on the same day, where it was later spotted by three witnesses up until November 11 2005 – " then it was gone," she said. Zellner's investigation found that "the RAV4 battery died" so, she surmises, it was "replaced" in order to move it to the Avery yard – where the car was ultimately found in the search.
"A witness smelled horrible odor of something burning in Manitowoc County gravel pit" on the evening of October 31, according to her investigation.
We now know that the Dassey's garage was "never luminoled or DNA tested" at the time, but Zellner has now hinted that a search for DNA evidence is now "in progress".
According to Zellner, "DNA lasts for years and blood is very difficult to clean up" so this could lead to some new discoveries.
What's more, Zellner claimed that Teresa's electronics "were not burned in Steven's burn barrel; they were burned in Dassey burn barrel." What's more, according to her, "nothing was burned in [Avery's] burn barrel" because "tin cans and vegetation" were found to be present. A witness "saw fire in Dassey burn barrel".
And now, back to the idea of blood planting. In Part 2 of the documentary, Kathleen and her experts punctured some massive holes in the prosecution's theory as to how Steven Avery's blood came to be in Teresa's car. She also presented her own theory in the new episodes - that it was planted from blood in Avery's bathroom sink.
Now, she adds that "only our suspect knew the blood in the sink was Steven's and not Teresa's", something that, she has concluded, "rules out the police" as the ones to have done the planting.
"Suspect planted blood in RAV4, bones in Steven's burn pit, and [Teresa's] electronics in Steven's burn barrel," Zellner said, before concluding: "The killer is the person who had the access and opportunity to plant Steven Avery's fresh blood in Teresa Halbach's car."
According to Zellner's latest findings, "60% of bones and 31 teeth" were missing. It is Zellner's belief that the rest of the body was "disposed of at the smelter" where "Tadych worked the night shift", and she's interviewed witnesses to that effect.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a869656/kathleen-zellner-now-updates-steven-avery-case/
"After Teresa called the Dassey landline for directions, our suspect contacted her back with the Dassey address," Zellner said.
The defence lawyer then went on to explain that Teresa arrived on Avery's salvage yard "around 2.30–2.31pm" that same day, where "only Bobby and Steven saw her".
"After completing her photo assignment, [Teresa] left & turned West on Hwy 147 around 2.38pm Our suspect followed her. Steven was in his trailer," Zellner claimed.
Avery's attorney then claimed that her suspect got Halbach to pull over. "She opened her car's rear cargo door to retrieve her camera, was knocked to the ground and struck with an object," she alleged.
From here, according to this theory, Teresa "was put in the rear cargo area of the RAV4" and driven back to the Avery's salvage yard. Zellner added that the RAV4 "was spotted leaving" the yard "with an unknown driver" at 3.45pm by multiple witnesses.
The car was then "left by the old dam West of Mishicot" on the same day, where it was later spotted by three witnesses up until November 11 2005 – " then it was gone," she said. Zellner's investigation found that "the RAV4 battery died" so, she surmises, it was "replaced" in order to move it to the Avery yard – where the car was ultimately found in the search.
"A witness smelled horrible odor of something burning in Manitowoc County gravel pit" on the evening of October 31, according to her investigation.
We now know that the Dassey's garage was "never luminoled or DNA tested" at the time, but Zellner has now hinted that a search for DNA evidence is now "in progress".
According to Zellner, "DNA lasts for years and blood is very difficult to clean up" so this could lead to some new discoveries.
What's more, Zellner claimed that Teresa's electronics "were not burned in Steven's burn barrel; they were burned in Dassey burn barrel." What's more, according to her, "nothing was burned in [Avery's] burn barrel" because "tin cans and vegetation" were found to be present. A witness "saw fire in Dassey burn barrel".
And now, back to the idea of blood planting. In Part 2 of the documentary, Kathleen and her experts punctured some massive holes in the prosecution's theory as to how Steven Avery's blood came to be in Teresa's car. She also presented her own theory in the new episodes - that it was planted from blood in Avery's bathroom sink.
Now, she adds that "only our suspect knew the blood in the sink was Steven's and not Teresa's", something that, she has concluded, "rules out the police" as the ones to have done the planting.
"Suspect planted blood in RAV4, bones in Steven's burn pit, and [Teresa's] electronics in Steven's burn barrel," Zellner said, before concluding: "The killer is the person who had the access and opportunity to plant Steven Avery's fresh blood in Teresa Halbach's car."
According to Zellner's latest findings, "60% of bones and 31 teeth" were missing. It is Zellner's belief that the rest of the body was "disposed of at the smelter" where "Tadych worked the night shift", and she's interviewed witnesses to that effect.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a869656/kathleen-zellner-now-updates-steven-avery-case/
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