It's more of a common sense thing. Unless the iPhone 5 comes with some Kal el type quad core chip its not going to be the best anything. All signs point to that not happening...its going to be the same type of release as most of the iphones, bring nothing new to the market but act like you do and sell a shitload of phones
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You know, it doesn't need all the best hardware because iOS runs natively on the iPhone hardware, as compared to Android using a VM? If you've used an iPhone 4, you'll see that it is just as fast as most Android phones out now. Considering it was released 15 months ago, that's pretty damn good. Can't say that about the Droid Incredible which was released at the same time with similar specs.
Exactly. It'll look exactly the same as every model that has preceded it, but it'll have a slightly faster processor, slightly higher resolution, slightly better GPU, slightly more RAM, and a slightly bigger screen. I don't know how these Apple fans buy the same phone over and over again every year, I'd be bored shitless.
Nexus Prime and Galaxy S2 variants will decimate it over the rest of the year, and ICS overall will make iOS 5 look lame. Hell, we already know what's in iOS5 and it's nothing to shout about, just them ripping off a bunch of Android features like the notification system that we've had since '08.
Nexus Prime and Galaxy S2 variants will decimate it over the rest of the year, and ICS overall will make iOS 5 look lame. Hell, we already know what's in iOS5 and it's nothing to shout about, just them ripping off a bunch of Android features like the notification system that we've had since '08.
That's how every phone is though. It doesn't need to be said because its common sense but the industry just moves with the tech. The thing about apple and the iphone that rubs people the wrong way is they have a good not great product that is basically the same as everything else but they act like its superior and its annoying.
Exactly. Iphones usually pack average hardware but they're ridiculously priced and overhyped to extremes. I guess that the new Iphone might pack a dual core chip. I'm not sure about the screen size - note that every Iphone had a 3,5 inch screen. They won't improve on screen quality unless they move to Amoled. We know that Samsung won't give their Super Amoleds, they even stopped shipping their old-gen amoleds to the likes of HTC, modern IPS/SLCD panels are as far as any LCD panel can go these days and there might be only a very minor step in quality, so they can only improve the resolution or brightness further which is pointless.
Realistically I think that they'll pack a better camera and a slimmer body with a thinner bezel + a new dual core chip.
That's what I expect from Apple and that'd be enough to make people want the new Iphone. I don't think that huge screens are what Apple should go for. The Iphone is mostly a little, universal phone that anyone can use.
To be fair an upgrade that I mentioned would be good enough for a modern phone, not as good as Android flagships but good enough in its own league. Most people don't need more, even if there's a hype for big screen smartphones. The problem I have is with pricing and hype ("the best phone ever").
Realistically I think that they'll pack a better camera and a slimmer body with a thinner bezel + a new dual core chip.
That's what I expect from Apple and that'd be enough to make people want the new Iphone. I don't think that huge screens are what Apple should go for. The Iphone is mostly a little, universal phone that anyone can use.
To be fair an upgrade that I mentioned would be good enough for a modern phone, not as good as Android flagships but good enough in its own league. Most people don't need more, even if there's a hype for big screen smartphones. The problem I have is with pricing and hype ("the best phone ever").
At last for us in the US:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-sprints-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-ahead-tonights-event
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-sprints-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-ahead-tonights-event
This is a good point. It goes along with what I said before when I was discussing OS X vs PC and what Pittsey said about self-respecting geeks (although he was probably half-joking). The iPhone is an awesome phone. You don't meet too many people who dislike using it. The problem arises when people get the urge to have "the best thing" even though they don't need "the best thing". That's how geeks operate. They have to have the latest and the greatest even though they don't necessarily need it. It's an ego thing.
I beg to differ. I think both parties have "self-respecting geeks" that know plenty about the tech world. It's preference. It's just that on forums, a buncha pencil-dicks try and have a pissing contest and then it gets out of hand. Otherwise, I see Apple and its products for usability, not necessarily all out power. When you can't tell the difference in everyday use between most phone models, why would it matter?
Again, it's a pissing contest, using Quadrant tests, which we all here agree, really don't mean much about everyday use. Which is what I'm talking about.
Again, it's a pissing contest, using Quadrant tests, which we all here agree, really don't mean much about everyday use. Which is what I'm talking about.
That may be true in some cases but the point is that those people are the ones who everyone in their social circles goes to for advice on these things. I've only had my SGS2 for 2 months and already 2 people in my family went out and bought them, and a couple more are waiting for the white one that's coming out in a couple of days. So every phone manufacturer wants those people supporting them because of that knock on effect. And it's also not just about geeks needing the latest and greatest, because more often than before people are now locking themselves into 2 and even 3 year contracts, so a device needs to be as future proof as possible.
I know people using the iPhone 3G, not even 3GS or whatever, and they have no problem with it whatsoever.
You've had your SGS2 for 2 months and most likely, you will buy the Nexus Prime. Then, when the NEW NEW comes out, you will buy that too. Then, when you buy the NEW NEW NEW, I will still have my Nexus S.
You've had your SGS2 for 2 months and most likely, you will buy the Nexus Prime. Then, when the NEW NEW comes out, you will buy that too. Then, when you buy the NEW NEW NEW, I will still have my Nexus S.
Thank you for bringing up "future proof." IPhone sucks with that, android not so much, just look at the g1.
Usability is a personal preference. I don't like ios because I like to do more with my phone. That is what puts android over ios for me. android can be super simple so my g'ma can use it then it can be super cool so I can fucks with it.
Usability is a personal preference. I don't like ios because I like to do more with my phone. That is what puts android over ios for me. android can be super simple so my g'ma can use it then it can be super cool so I can fucks with it.
The problem with the Iphone is that you pay much more for having an "average" phone, and then a circlejerk of insecure begins - "our phone is the best isnt it?"
-"of course it is, it is the best one, of course. All others can suck dick, they have some crap ones because they're too poor or silly to get THE IPHONE, they have some imitations instead"
-"oh good to know".
I don't think many real 'geeks' (in the positive sense) would go for that.
I wouldn't mind if the Iphone 4 would cost just below the original Galaxy S, which is what it really was. That way it would only be a matter of preference to me and I would agree with it being a rational alternative, despite the fact that I think that iOS is inferior to Android. But whenever it costs all that much more getting it seems silly to me. You don't pay for better quality or design here, because it's not there compared to competition (that's where I could agree with Macbook airs and to some extent Ipad 2). And Iphone owners' popular mentality "I have the best phone ever" top it off.
That's in short what I dislike the most about Iphones - iOS limitations, terrible value for money, a huge group of silly owners and Apple targeting their phones their way, creating the base for Appleish-ignorance. Only that. No big deal about hardware, it's only average but comes in a pretty well balanced package in form of a little, handy smartphone and that's more than about 90% of people probalby need anyway.
-"of course it is, it is the best one, of course. All others can suck dick, they have some crap ones because they're too poor or silly to get THE IPHONE, they have some imitations instead"
-"oh good to know".
I don't think many real 'geeks' (in the positive sense) would go for that.
I wouldn't mind if the Iphone 4 would cost just below the original Galaxy S, which is what it really was. That way it would only be a matter of preference to me and I would agree with it being a rational alternative, despite the fact that I think that iOS is inferior to Android. But whenever it costs all that much more getting it seems silly to me. You don't pay for better quality or design here, because it's not there compared to competition (that's where I could agree with Macbook airs and to some extent Ipad 2). And Iphone owners' popular mentality "I have the best phone ever" top it off.
That's in short what I dislike the most about Iphones - iOS limitations, terrible value for money, a huge group of silly owners and Apple targeting their phones their way, creating the base for Appleish-ignorance. Only that. No big deal about hardware, it's only average but comes in a pretty well balanced package in form of a little, handy smartphone and that's more than about 90% of people probalby need anyway.
Why are we judging a phone based solely on hardware? If any of you have used an iOS device, you will know that it is pretty damn smooth. Smoother than any Android device I've ever used. Although, admittedly, the best I've used is a Sensation/Thunderbolt. I have not used the GS2. Because it's not out in the US yet.
I think most of you are thinking the 3GS is "outdated" because Apple doesn't really support it anymore. That doesn't mean it's shit. Apple just doesn't develop new OS updates for it. How old is the phone, though? 2+ years old? What came out two years ago at this time for Android? I dunno, the Hero, maybe? Or close to that time? The OG Droid? Why aren't they supported by their carriers anymore for firmware updates? They aren't even two full years old. The 3GS lost out on iOS 5. Which isn't out yet. It still runs iOS 4.
At this specific point, yes, Apple is overcharging for an 18 month old phone in the iPhone 4. At $199 for the base model, though, it competes with the likes of most top-notch Android phones when it was first released.
See, the point here is you can buy a 6.0L V8 Mustang or you can buy a 3.2L I6 M3. Does having the bigger engine necessarily mean the Mustang is more fun to drive? It has to work in unison, right? Otherwise what good is all that power? And this is where I think Apple, the M3, has the advantage. They use smaller, older hardware, but they still focus on the user experience. They make a pretty OS and a pretty design of the phone. And it really works well. Some people just have a hard time letting go of stereotypes and accepting that.
I think most of you are thinking the 3GS is "outdated" because Apple doesn't really support it anymore. That doesn't mean it's shit. Apple just doesn't develop new OS updates for it. How old is the phone, though? 2+ years old? What came out two years ago at this time for Android? I dunno, the Hero, maybe? Or close to that time? The OG Droid? Why aren't they supported by their carriers anymore for firmware updates? They aren't even two full years old. The 3GS lost out on iOS 5. Which isn't out yet. It still runs iOS 4.
At this specific point, yes, Apple is overcharging for an 18 month old phone in the iPhone 4. At $199 for the base model, though, it competes with the likes of most top-notch Android phones when it was first released.
See, the point here is you can buy a 6.0L V8 Mustang or you can buy a 3.2L I6 M3. Does having the bigger engine necessarily mean the Mustang is more fun to drive? It has to work in unison, right? Otherwise what good is all that power? And this is where I think Apple, the M3, has the advantage. They use smaller, older hardware, but they still focus on the user experience. They make a pretty OS and a pretty design of the phone. And it really works well. Some people just have a hard time letting go of stereotypes and accepting that.
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