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Synful*Luv

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Yeah I'm with T-Mob. I got it for free on my contract... here in the UK. I don't think it's out in the US yet.
Yeah, so it seems. >.< I can get it online but I've seen it cheapest at about $650. le sigh. I don't think I want to spend that much BUT if i get rid of my G2 I can use those funds to assist me in purchasing the phone.
 

THEV1LL4N

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last night, i updated my Samsung Galaxy i5700 to Androud 2.1, rooted it by flashing a new kernel, then flashed Samdroid Kitchen this morning. Will optimise the settings to make it more powerful, and efficient before giving it to my dad. not bad for £60.

I just have one more question for masta (who has been very helpful btw - f***** genius).. does samdroid kitchen require an ext2 partition on the sd card for apps2sd since its Android 2.1 and not Android 2.2?

edit: of course i do - official apps2sd was enabled in froyo, unofficial prior to froyo was done using ext2 partitions like they were on my G1. i'll make an ext2 partition using the recovery menu.
 

Casey

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I had to flash an insecure kernel based upon the firmware version I have (using Odin), then I had to run a program called SuperOneClick... then I restored the original secure kernel. It was easy. Just finding the correct kernels was what threw me at first, as there's already dozens of different ones depending on country and carrier.... but XDA came through with all the info as usual :)

I'm not running a custom ROM yet though, just a rooted stock ROM. I've put it through it's paces and I still can't get even the smallest amount of lag, this thing is stupid fast. And at the stock speed of 1.2GhZ on the Dual Core Exynos processor I'm getting over 3300 on Quadrant. On my G2, I think I was getting somewhere between 2200-2400 with it overclocked from 800MhZ to 1.4GhZ (single core).

Apparently, some people that have been overclocking have already got the SGS2 to score more than 5000 on Quadrant... fucking insane! lol.

Doesn't seem that long ago when we were impressed that a device could push 2000..... hell, I remember that the G1 never did much past 300 even when overclocked lol. We've certainly come a long way!
 

Pittsey

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Rooting the phone is a piece of piss, it's just the initial boot where it rebuilds the cache that has the sphincter twitching a little. Even with odin you are given all the files and all you need to do is press a button. I actually found that I preferred the odin method to the cwm method.

Like Casey said, it's just getting your head around all the info and stripping it down to what you actually need for your phone.
 

masta247

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Also Qualcomm roadmap leaked:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_ro..._make_an_appearance_starting_q4-news-2855.php

This might mean that mobile phones will be officially faster than computers were a few years ago. Dual channel memory, 1,7ghz dual core cpus with 1MB cache and DirectX 9.3 support and these beasts are about to come later this year. 125M tri/sec is about 50% faster than SGX540 and Tegra 2.

Also they officially have quad core 2,5ghz! mobile CPUs planned for Q1 2013. Wow. And dual channel 800mhz ddr3 memory. It's like an average modern computer, minus the gpu. However 225 million triangles/sec is pretty good, that's over twice as much as the fastest gpus right now - the SGX540 (Galaxy S/Wave) and Tegra 2.

Edit: And for those of you who don't know, Imagination technologies (who brought Galaxy S's graphics to you) is releasing its series 6 (Rogue) graphics which offers close to desktop performance while consuming a milliwatt of power. It's going to be 20-100 times faster (on paper) than modern series 5..

What else it might mean? Soon it'll be entirely possible to run Windows on ARM units with a few Watt power supplies. The difference between components that we use in our computers these days, that drain hundreds of Watts of power and those in our mobile phones that drain a few Watt max is getting much, much smaller. To put it in a better perspective upcoming mobile cpus have hundreds times better efficiency/watt ratio than those in our desktop computers.
 

Pittsey

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Also Qualcomm roadmap leaked:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_ro..._make_an_appearance_starting_q4-news-2855.php

This might mean that mobile phones will be officially faster than computers were a few years ago. Dual channel memory, 1,7ghz dual core cpus with 1MB cache and DirectX 9.3 support and these beasts are about to come later this year. 125M tri/sec is about 50% faster than SGX540 and Tegra 2.

Also they officially have quad core 2,5ghz! mobile CPUs planned for Q1 2013. Wow. And dual channel 800mhz ddr3 memory. It's like an average modern computer, minus the gpu. However 225 million triangles/sec is pretty good, that's over twice as much as the fastest gpus right now - the SGX540 (Galaxy S/Wave) and Tegra 2.

Edit: And for those of you who don't know, Imagination technologies (who brought Galaxy S's graphics to you) is releasing its series 6 (Rogue) graphics which offers close to desktop performance while consuming a milliwatt of power. It's going to be 20-100 times faster (on paper) than modern series 5..

What else it might mean? Soon it'll be entirely possible to run Windows on ARM units with a few Watt power supplies. The difference between components that we use in our computers these days, that drain hundreds of Watts of power and those in our mobile phones that drain a few Watt max is getting much, much smaller. To put it in a better perspective upcoming mobile cpus have hundreds times better efficiency/watt ratio than those in our desktop computers.
I think, as Casey has said once I think, that we will be using our mobile devices instead of PCs. We will just insert them into various docks to connect screens and storage, and peripherals.
 

masta247

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^The unfortunate trend is that modern desktop PCs need more and more power mainly because desktop GPU and CPU performance comes at a high energy cost, so for example anyone thinking of serious gaming will soon have to buy 300W graphic card. Which is more than whole computers drained a few years back. Now we have dual core graphics cards, soon we will have quad core ones and with each generation they need more and more power for the performance that they offer. Also there are no high-performance energy efficient graphics cards. While there are low-energy desktop components only a very small group of people actually buy them since they offer very little performance for their price, and desktop computers are all about performance and much less about power or size.

However I can see a segment in which replacing a PC with our mobile phones could be possible, I doubt that it'll be very widespread though.

On a totally side note now, Microsoft now has 5$ of every HTC Droid sold, now they want more from Samsung:
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_d...ng_for_every_android_phone_made-news-2860.php
It's like Microsoft wants to cover their loses in the mobile phone market with a jewish strategy suing for patent infringement. I guess Google might want to fix that.
 

Pittsey

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^^

For people like me, who don't play games or work with video or anything else CPU or GPU intensive, a dock would be perfect.

I use my PC for the internet, downloading Media and not much else.
 

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