Every on going Generation is getting Weaker

masta247

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#21
yes, that was kind of a digression that I made about the amount of knowledge. Actually I made quite a few digressions that might make my post harder to read, I only woke up when I wrote that and had a lot of thoughts at the same time. Perhaps I'll edit that post later :p
The point is that we are getting more and more capable of apprehending more complex information and skills, partially because much more is available and we are forced to do so to function in our society.
 

Casey

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#22
Each subsequent generation has the ability to learn a LOT more, a LOT quicker than the previous. It's up to the individual to utilize that knowledge or not. But to try and discredit that is utterly preposterous.

Imagine if they found a cure for cancer, tomorrow. Within SECONDS, that information could be online and every scientist and doctor in the world could learn how to do it and be able to utilize that knowledge with immediate effect. If that had happened even just 50 years ago it would have taken literally years for that information to be available to everyone that could use it.

Pretty much the entire intelligence of the WORLD is at our fingertips. The possibilities are limitless. The only obstacle is motivation, which again you can learn to be more motivated instantly.

As far as weakness..... LOL. Each ongoing generation is getting weaker? No. Actually, what's happening is each generation is getting stronger. On every level. One example would be people like me - mixed race individuals. Every race of people in the world has a genetic predisposition to be resistant to various things. Therefore, mixed-race children are significantly stronger on a biological level, because we have more resistance to more illnesses. And of course, this is something that is happening more and more frequently.

It's the opposite of in-breeding, basically. If you in-breed, your genes become weaker and weaker over time, which is why inbreds have the most amount of deformities, physical mutations, etc.

Secondly, we're reaching a point (estimated to be within 30 years) whereby the rate of medical advancement exceeds the rate of mortality. Basically, WE are the first generation that may be able to CHOOSE whether we die or not. And we're getting weaker? LOL at that.

Cyborgs. There's a cyborg professor here in the UK. I watched a documentary about him. He's one of the leading professors in the field of cybernetics, and he conducts his experiments on himself. These sort of things could very well be both affordable and common place within a couple of decades. The development of opposable thumbs was one of the biggest steps in the evolution of the human race, because it allowed us to do things physically which weren't previously possible. We're reaching a point where it would be quite simple to replace our hands with lightweight titanium ones that allow for much more usage. Imagine being able to rotate your hands 360 degrees as well as all the joints in your fingers. This sounds like science fiction, but try explaining "the internet" to someone from the 1960's. Just 50 years ago. That would sound utterly ridiculous to them. But there were intelligent people at the time who saw that's where we were headed. Weaker? No.

If you're fat, lazy, unintelligent and unmotivated, that's your fucking choice. You have the ability to be anything you want right in front of you for basically nothing.

Kids don't walk to high school? Their choice. My nephew just started high school in North London, him and all his mates walk.

I know literally nothing about NFL so I can't counter you on that one. But as Pittsey said, more records are being broken than ever. Physical limits are being pushed more than ever. So I completely disagree that modern sportsmen are somehow weaker.

We ELEVATE people of the past as being more than they were. Every generation does it. Our generation will probably say that Lebron James or whoever is not better than Michael Jordan. Actually, he probably is. If you ask the generation above us, they'll say that no way was Michael Jordan better than Dr. J, or Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlin, or whoever they elevate. And the generation above that would say that Wilt Chamberlin was nothing compared to the greats of their day.

Why does Webster have to add LOL? Because it's a fucking word that everybody uses and everybody knows, the English language EVOLVES! It's ALIVE! That's the fucking point! I bet you everything I own that words that are absolutely commonplace now, were considered controversial when they were added to the dictionary 100 years ago, hell even 25 or 50 years ago. Words reflect the age we live in and we live in the internet age right now. If this weren't the case, we'd all still talk like Shakespeare.

Why is sexuality a problem? Maybe if you're a prude. Are there more people being sexually assaulted than before? Actually, there's less.

Listen, don't jump on the bandwagon of complaining about the way the world is headed. Every generation there's people that do that and those people don't amount to shit because they're stuck in the past. You jump on the ball and you fucking run with it, or you fall off. That's it. There's no other way. Don't like the way parents are raising their kids? Then you can either try and educate those people or you can simply ensure that you raise your own kids better.

What is the problem, you ask? The problem with what? Life? Shit, how long you got? But we got LESS problems than people used to have and more ways to solve the problems we do have. 50 years ago tens of millions of people were dying of smallpox, and now that shit DOES NOT EVEN EXIST! Technology, bitches.

In short, I disagree with everything you said.
 

Shadows

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#26
Each subsequent generation has the ability to learn a LOT more, a LOT quicker than the previous. It's up to the individual to utilize that knowledge or not. But to try and discredit that is utterly preposterous.

Imagine if they found a cure for cancer, tomorrow. Within SECONDS, that information could be online and every scientist and doctor in the world could learn how to do it and be able to utilize that knowledge with immediate effect. If that had happened even just 50 years ago it would have taken literally years for that information to be available to everyone that could use it.

Pretty much the entire intelligence of the WORLD is at our fingertips. The possibilities are limitless. The only obstacle is motivation, which again you can learn to be more motivated instantly.

As far as weakness..... LOL. Each ongoing generation is getting weaker? No. Actually, what's happening is each generation is getting stronger. On every level. One example would be people like me - mixed race individuals. Every race of people in the world has a genetic predisposition to be resistant to various things. Therefore, mixed-race children are significantly stronger on a biological level, because we have more resistance to more illnesses. And of course, this is something that is happening more and more frequently.

It's the opposite of in-breeding, basically. If you in-breed, your genes become weaker and weaker over time, which is why inbreds have the most amount of deformities, physical mutations, etc.

Secondly, we're reaching a point (estimated to be within 30 years) whereby the rate of medical advancement exceeds the rate of mortality. Basically, WE are the first generation that may be able to CHOOSE whether we die or not. And we're getting weaker? LOL at that.

Cyborgs. There's a cyborg professor here in the UK. I watched a documentary about him. He's one of the leading professors in the field of cybernetics, and he conducts his experiments on himself. These sort of things could very well be both affordable and common place within a couple of decades. The development of opposable thumbs was one of the biggest steps in the evolution of the human race, because it allowed us to do things physically which weren't previously possible. We're reaching a point where it would be quite simple to replace our hands with lightweight titanium ones that allow for much more usage. Imagine being able to rotate your hands 360 degrees as well as all the joints in your fingers. This sounds like science fiction, but try explaining "the internet" to someone from the 1960's. Just 50 years ago. That would sound utterly ridiculous to them. But there were intelligent people at the time who saw that's where we were headed. Weaker? No.

If you're fat, lazy, unintelligent and unmotivated, that's your fucking choice. You have the ability to be anything you want right in front of you for basically nothing.

Kids don't walk to high school? Their choice. My nephew just started high school in North London, him and all his mates walk.

I know literally nothing about NFL so I can't counter you on that one. But as Pittsey said, more records are being broken than ever. Physical limits are being pushed more than ever. So I completely disagree that modern sportsmen are somehow weaker.

We ELEVATE people of the past as being more than they were. Every generation does it. Our generation will probably say that Lebron James or whoever is not better than Michael Jordan. Actually, he probably is. If you ask the generation above us, they'll say that no way was Michael Jordan better than Dr. J, or Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlin, or whoever they elevate. And the generation above that would say that Wilt Chamberlin was nothing compared to the greats of their day.

Why does Webster have to add LOL? Because it's a fucking word that everybody uses and everybody knows, the English language EVOLVES! It's ALIVE! That's the fucking point! I bet you everything I own that words that are absolutely commonplace now, were considered controversial when they were added to the dictionary 100 years ago, hell even 25 or 50 years ago. Words reflect the age we live in and we live in the internet age right now. If this weren't the case, we'd all still talk like Shakespeare.

Why is sexuality a problem? Maybe if you're a prude. Are there more people being sexually assaulted than before? Actually, there's less.

Listen, don't jump on the bandwagon of complaining about the way the world is headed. Every generation there's people that do that and those people don't amount to shit because they're stuck in the past. You jump on the ball and you fucking run with it, or you fall off. That's it. There's no other way. Don't like the way parents are raising their kids? Then you can either try and educate those people or you can simply ensure that you raise your own kids better.

What is the problem, you ask? The problem with what? Life? Shit, how long you got? But we got LESS problems than people used to have and more ways to solve the problems we do have. 50 years ago tens of millions of people were dying of smallpox, and now that shit DOES NOT EVEN EXIST! Technology, bitches.

In short, I disagree with everything you said.
we are GENERALLY improving on technology we created a while ago. The next generation, learned it, improved it. Then the next etc...

BUT the generation after ours, you dont see the problem? Maybe it's where I reside, but people don't have priorities anymore. They just want sex. Maybe because i'm in America, where most ppl don't have to do shit anymore and there is a lot of unemployed ppl, but i see a lot of drawbacks.

They are more stuck on what the next phone is. They don't want to study them and build them, they want to work at McDonalds and then save up to buy them. Bc of that, they are not learning their abc's in college, and drop out of High school or whatever.

Recently, a study around my old school said that the kids in HS now are dumber, and not getting the facts that OUR generation got. so, they sent teachers to go learn to teach them a better way. (Which will eventually make us smarter), but right now, the generation that is out in HS right now is not smarter than us.

The other day, i saw a 1 year old kid reading off a program, holding it. (im sorry i don't got a source) but.... Mothafucka, I could barely talk for anything at that age. So i do think we are getting smarter, but not in the generation that's in HS right now in General, but the ones AFTER.

My point was, with the techonogy made by the previous years, we should have NO drawbacks, so we have the information, but we aren't utilizing everything right. The professors that are working on cyborg shit are probably not 35 or younger...but the info for that is at our fingertips, but ....the info is coming from him.

We are not sufficiently using our health facts that have been laying around for 20-30 yrs. McDonalds and all those food places realized ppl are getting smarter in way they eat, so they are finally going to start changing their menus, since Subway is now the largest food chain in the world.

and if you are fat, lazy, it's a choice, but with a computer, u can be fat/lazy, yet u still dont know the basis of anything about a computer? all you know how to do is play games?

The nfl thing was the main point of my argument. PHYSICAL contact. Ok, maybe we are getting faster? stronger as far as what we can do...but

We get hurt more, so we are getting WEAKER. That smarter shit, i just threw in for more argument. The players should be able to heal themselves between games to get better, eat healthier and not get hurt so easy. We got jacuzzi's, ice tubs and all that in the gym. The pads are better. I'm sure u seen the LEATHER helmets, to now the material now, yet, they are making so much rules changes b/c concussions, bc of hip/thigh injuries. We almost can't have contact on the Quarterback anymore. -___-

and the previous generations will not say that Dr.J was better than Jordan. He has a better skill set, jumped longer, better shots, etc. No one is saying Lebron is better than Jordan, he is just at a faster pace than Jordan. Lebron was an 18 year old boy with a 26 yr old body, probably b/c of good genetics and he was smart enough to eat healthy. So when he came out, he dominated more than Kobe and Jordan could do in their early years . But he is in NO way better than Jordan. He drives down the middle, Jordan could do that and do any other shot. Lebron can't do as much as Jordan could. and later on, we will see that LeBron probably wont have a long career like Jordan did, even though, he wasnt as long as the people before him...which goes back to my point, how is our endurance getting WORSE if the technology has improved? Are we going to have to rely on Cyborg parts to get longer endurance?

Wilt Chamberlin is a Center, anyway. that has nothing to Jordan or Lebron. but look how long he played and was able to play, like 20 yrs and shit. Look at the Centers now, they are out of the game in 5-9 years less than the ones before. It doesn't make the previous generations better, it just makes them stronger in endurance.

as far as Webster, if there is new words, fine. but LOL is not word, it's a new abreviation.

and if we rely on cyborg parts, are we going to be getting weaker in the future, as far as when we are first born?
 

Casey

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#27
The vast majority of people from EVERY generation have been like that. Those are the people that just live and die and never make any impact on the world. It's not some new phenomenon. It's called the lowest common denominator. Stop looking at that. Stop paying attention to what those people are doing and thinking that's how society is. Look at the smart people, the motivated people, the people at the top of their game. And then compare that with previous generations. For example, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs couldn't have dreamed of doing what someone like Mark Zuckerberg has done at his age. He might not be smarter than them - but relatively, thanks to the time he lives in, he's been able to achieve a lot more than they had the possibility of doing when they were his age.

And it's not because you're in America. There are a small amount of smart, motivated people and a lot of dumb, unmotivated people everywhere.

The stupid people aren't getting increasingly more stupid with each ongoing generation. Your perception is that way because you're arguing that the advances make it easier for people to learn. Which is true. But that doesn't give those people any more motivation to learn for the most part. Are there things that these people were forced to learn in the past that they now don't have to? Almost definitely. But that's evolution. The weak get weaker and the strong get stronger. Over time the weak will die out and the strong will multiply. If you want to look at that in a modern context, you could say, the weak eat McDonalds all the time and have heart attacks / cancer before they hit their 40s, and the strong go vegan and are super healthy, far more resistant to all kinds of sicknesses, have more motivation and energy and live, long, impressive fulfilled lives :D

If you had said - "The dumb, stupid, lazy, unmotivated people that make up the majority of the population are getting weaker with every generation" then you would have had a solid argument.

Again I have nothing to say about NFL because i know nothing about it. And you missed my NBA point. I don't care about different positions or why you think X person is better than Y. Yes, I have seen people passionately state that Dr J is better than Jordan. I don't care about any explanation why they think that. On a basic level people always elevate the heroes of their generation more than anyone else. That's a fact and it happens in every field. Hip-Hop fans who lived their golden years in the 80's will tell you that Rakim is better than Tupac, EVERY time. You're a discerning basketball fan with some knowledge who can explain why you believe what you believe, I'm a discerning music fan and I can give people a million reasons why Prince is a far better artist than say, Marvin Gaye, but If I'm trying to have that conversation with an R&B fan who grew up in the 60's and 70's and whose passion for the genre peaked in those decades, they aren't going to care. They like what they like and they elevate the heroes of their time.

LOL is an abbreviation that became a word. So what? Here's some more that you may not have known:

Radar - RAdio Detection And Ranging
Scuba - Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus
Laser - Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Posh - Port Out Starboard Home (the rich passengers of ships travelling east were given cabins of this orientation)

My point is, if you want to complain that LOL is not a word, then you must also go out into the world and complain to people that Laser is not a word. Good luck getting people to listen.

I think we're a long way away from "relying" on cyborg parts. For the time being, people aren't getting weaker. As far as endurance - we aren't losing that either. If we were, there wouldn't be more and more people running marathons and such, every year.

As far as professional sports like the NFL, with the amount of money in the games and the fact that professional sports players are celebrities with endorsements, they don't want to get hurt and lose their ability to make as much money as they do, so this contributes to increased safety and less aggressive play. It doesn't make them weaker, it makes them less willing to put themselves in as many harmful situations.
 

Flipmo

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#28
I don't think past generations are better than our current one. We just built on our previous generations, and this goes for music and the arts as well. Many artists will tell you they've been influenced by musicians of the past, now there are some that will break from this influence and carve their own path, but that doesn't mean we are weaker nowadays. We take ideas from the past, use the good from it and try to eliminate (or try to for the most part) the bad associated with it and roll with that. Technologically, we are moving at the speed of light. Hell, just look at our Android thread - I would say that's self explanatory. Imagine what they're doing in terms of medical science and space travel.

Now, are people weaker nowadays? I think we're as strong as we should be depending on our society. 100 years ago people had to be tougher. The world was a meaner place than it is now, so it was fitting to be tough as nails and let your fist do the talking. We don't live now, for the most part, in times where that is as important. Innovation, intelligence and emotional intelligence (I think this plays a strong role in todays' society involving laws passed, human rights, animal rights, etc) is key.

That being said, if there is ever some kind of war where the world goes into chaos, I'm pretty sure humanity will be able to tap into their survivalist instincts. As much as people can say we have nothing in common with animals, when push comes to shove we are capable of being as vicious as them when we have to.
 

Shadows

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#29
The vast majority of people from EVERY generation have been like that. Those are the people that just live and die and never make any impact on the world. It's not some new phenomenon. It's called the lowest common denominator. Stop looking at that. Stop paying attention to what those people are doing and thinking that's how society is. Look at the smart people, the motivated people, the people at the top of their game. And then compare that with previous generations. For example, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs couldn't have dreamed of doing what someone like Mark Zuckerberg has done at his age. He might not be smarter than them - but relatively, thanks to the time he lives in, he's been able to achieve a lot more than they had the possibility of doing when they were his age.

And it's not because you're in America. There are a small amount of smart, motivated people and a lot of dumb, unmotivated people everywhere.

The stupid people aren't getting increasingly more stupid with each ongoing generation. Your perception is that way because you're arguing that the advances make it easier for people to learn. Which is true. But that doesn't give those people any more motivation to learn for the most part. Are there things that these people were forced to learn in the past that they now don't have to? Almost definitely. But that's evolution. The weak get weaker and the strong get stronger. Over time the weak will die out and the strong will multiply. If you want to look at that in a modern context, you could say, the weak eat McDonalds all the time and have heart attacks / cancer before they hit their 40s, and the strong go vegan and are super healthy, far more resistant to all kinds of sicknesses, have more motivation and energy and live, long, impressive fulfilled lives :D

If you had said - "The dumb, stupid, lazy, unmotivated people that make up the majority of the population are getting weaker with every generation" then you would have had a solid argument.

Again I have nothing to say about NFL because i know nothing about it. And you missed my NBA point. I don't care about different positions or why you think X person is better than Y. Yes, I have seen people passionately state that Dr J is better than Jordan. I don't care about any explanation why they think that. On a basic level people always elevate the heroes of their generation more than anyone else. That's a fact and it happens in every field. Hip-Hop fans who lived their golden years in the 80's will tell you that Rakim is better than Tupac, EVERY time. You're a discerning basketball fan with some knowledge who can explain why you believe what you believe, I'm a discerning music fan and I can give people a million reasons why Prince is a far better artist than say, Marvin Gaye, but If I'm trying to have that conversation with an R&B fan who grew up in the 60's and 70's and whose passion for the genre peaked in those decades, they aren't going to care. They like what they like and they elevate the heroes of their time.

LOL is an abbreviation that became a word. So what? Here's some more that you may not have known:

Radar - RAdio Detection And Ranging
Scuba - Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus
Laser - Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Posh - Port Out Starboard Home (the rich passengers of ships travelling east were given cabins of this orientation)

My point is, if you want to complain that LOL is not a word, then you must also go out into the world and complain to people that Laser is not a word. Good luck getting people to listen.

I think we're a long way away from "relying" on cyborg parts. For the time being, people aren't getting weaker. As far as endurance - we aren't losing that either. If we were, there wouldn't be more and more people running marathons and such, every year.

As far as professional sports like the NFL, with the amount of money in the games and the fact that professional sports players are celebrities with endorsements, they don't want to get hurt and lose their ability to make as much money as they do, so this contributes to increased safety and less aggressive play. It doesn't make them weaker, it makes them less willing to put themselves in as many harmful situations.
That's what i meant, my bad.

...man, i apparently live in the wrong area. or choose to pay attention to that. Perhaps, i will pay attention to the more positive. I just get tired of seeing the same people, you know? like the only new billionaire Mark Zuck. was more opportunistic than smart. there were a lot of programmers cabable of what he did, obviously. i'm talking about NEW large groups amount of people making break throughs that isn't necessarily opportunistic.

that reminds me, i got to stop eating out.

i never heard anyone say Dr.J was better and i've been around so many basketball fanatics of different ages. Perhaps we wont agree on that bc i never heard anyone say that, not even people of ESPN, who usually say stuff to get ratings. Like the ever popular "Lebron is better than MJ"...when they really mean he's on a better pace. and i have no emotion to basketball, so thats probably why i can be honest about it. i'm more a football fan.

i disagree with your football thing. I know u don't know it, but if u take a play off to "not get hurt" and the other person doesnt, you WILL lose your job. If a left tackle, lets a linebacker sack and end a quarterbacks career, that tackle wont have endorsements, wont get a fat contract again. i think they just are weaker as far as endurance. I think my last football hero was the last dude with endurance, and he started to fall apart VERY bad in his last 3 years. (he'll be playing his 3rd next year, and i dont want him to).

laughing out loud is an emotion.

oh, you laughed? or you lol'd? so, people laugh silently now'?

I guess "LOTI" is laughing on the inside. so when i say i laugh, to be specific, i have to say an abbreviate to let you know exactly what i was doing? I feel kind of lame.

Like to ME, if you laugh, u laugh out loud. i only used lol to abbreviate on the internet, not put it as u can use it as a word and it be okay in school because it's in the dictionary. i think that's stupid. Perhaps, you are right then. Maybe I would probably be the dude in the shakespeare age wondering why we are changing our language to now. but i seriously don't see any positivity to lol.

"yo, and then i laughed" "wait....how?"

i dont see anyone saying that in a convo ever.

the Radar and shit is needed to communicate faster in the form of combat. Military. If you have an aircraft waiting to bomb your ship, im sure ur not going to say "we have an unknown ship on our radio decting and ranging device" nah, you'll say "we have an unknown ship on radar"

my point is, if it don't really go with the language that well, then Cyber language, i dont see why ppl should make those actual words. at least, not LOL.

Flipmo: I agree with the Android thread. I didn't mean our technology is getting weaker. i meant we aren't coming up with something new.

like 10 years ago or w/e, dial up connection was the standard. now it's high speed. and has been high speed for so long. why has nothing new came about yet? we are still using batteries. still using fuel.

My car is a 99 Honda Accord, 4l. It goes 30 miles a gallon. The new shit out right now should be going a standard 45. nah....you need a toyota prius for that...

and you might say electric cars are out, but it don't generate the power a fueled one can. which is what i think were we should be at right now.
 

Casey

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Staff member
#33
Here's some reason.

Clearly everyone on this this forum agrees with the things I say since I have 1097 "Likes" and you have 53.

I have 2.6x as many posts as you.

That enables us to estimate a level playing field where we theoretically have the same number of posts. In that situation, I would still have 1097 Likes and you would have 137.

Through the use of logic and reason we can hereby conclude that the population of this forum consider my posts to be almost 1000% superior to yours.

It's funny how people who can't handle the truth tend to dismiss it with phrases such as "Horse shit" when that smell overwhelmingly comes from themselves. Now go roll in it, you incomprehensible small-minded idiot.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#37
Here's some reason.

Clearly everyone on this this forum agrees with the things I say since I have 1097 "Likes" and you have 53.

I have 2.6x as many posts as you.

That enables us to estimate a level playing field where we theoretically have the same number of posts. In that situation, I would still have 1097 Likes and you would have 137.

Through the use of logic and reason we can hereby conclude that the population of this forum consider my posts to be almost 1000% superior to yours.

It's funny how people who can't handle the truth tend to dismiss it with phrases such as "Horse shit" when that smell overwhelmingly comes from themselves. Now go roll in it, you incomprehensible small-minded idiot.
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