Technology Samsung ue40c6000 40" full hd led tv

masta247

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Yeah depends on what you need it for. There are many factors to consider. However it's not a bad model. Personally I wouldn't buy a LED Tv because of their worse image quality/price ratio.
 
Pittsey

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THEV1LL4N

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Dont need 3D at all. need good price, around 40", good brand, reliable, preferably Sony or Samsung, good picture quality, connectivity, environmentally friendly would be a bonus.

this television is for the living room.

Casey, any idea on when Google TV will launch in the UK and pricing?
 
Pittsey

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^^

I'd imagine that pricing would be about right.

A standard Samsung 40 inch is about £550. Add £100 for google Tv.


I personally, don't hold high hopes for google TV. XBMC or Boxee already do more.
 
THEV1LL4N

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Sandeep14 said:
Okay, i found this on Best Buy (USA):

Sony - Google TV 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LED-LCD HDTV - NSX40GT1

Conversion from $ into £: 900.00 USD = 573.81 GBP

But i guess they always charge more in the UK so i'd say £650 or £700 here?
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For this Sony TV above, i found these reviews:


I have had the TV for a week and I have to agree with all that I have been said by other rewiewers: very hard to browse, too slow, difficult to read on the screen....you realize quickly that you will never use this Tv to browse; Like it's been said, it looks like a computer of the 90's;
Netflix is a real nightmare. You have to go on google first and do it like you do on your computer except that with this remote, it's taking for ever. Once you're finally ready to wach a movie, guess what? you have now to close it and go to Netflix app; The whole process is taking way too long, which is not what we are using Netflix for!
I am going to return it tomorrow. Too disappointed.....

What's great about it: nothing, not even the picture
What's not so great: everything

No, I would not recommend this to a friend.
11 out of15 found this review helpful


As an admittedly biased fan-of-Android, I am very happy with this TV. The picture quality is great (for regular TV, HD TV and XBOX gaming. Additionally, the GoogleTV parts function great (Chrome, Pandora, Netflix, etc.), and I look forward to two more advancements that are expected in the next few months: using my Droid2 as a remote and access to the Android market to install apps.

What's great about it: Functionality, Picture Quality
What's not so great: Other universal remotes don't seem to work with it

I would recommend this to a friend!
6 out of 6 found this review helpful.


My wife and I purchased this TV, based on the the great sell job at the store. We both fell in love with the Idea of being able to browse the internet on the television. We were unsatified the next day. We could not find much programming on the net that was combatable with the google tv, and we didn't use it for browsing because the distance was to far to read most of the content. By the third day we were talking about taking it back to get something else. Which we did a few days later, had the sony for 1 week. We got a Toshiba that was 6" bigger and 120hz vs 60hz for the sony. The Toshiba was $250 cheaper, we are very happy now.
The picture and sound were ok not bad not great, for the price we were disappointed. Before spending the $1000 really think about how much you will use the internet becuase that is what you are paying for.

What's great about it: Easy set up
What's not so great: The price, the practical use of the internet

No, I would not recommend this to a friend.
26 out of37 found this review helpful.


The Good :
Its the future of TV. Easy search for shows. My TV has"apps." EXCELLENT NETFLIX INTEGRATION!!! Web browsing is good. Seems to be good value. 40 in was my desired size because of my entertainment center setup

The Bad:
The future is still a few months away. a few major tv websites don't let you play tv shows and say they are working on google tv access. When it is out it says it will be available through a new monthly service ($)
Also, in my cable's on demand function there is no way that I have found to go back to a previous menu without exiting on demand and then starting over. Don't worry, you can still use your cable remote.
Additionally, if you have kids, be careful!! I see a recall on the way for the stands. They form a triangle like base. The triangle is 2 sides of a metal base connected to the TV and the shelf it sits on acts as the 3rd side...so if your kids start pulling on the bar across the front it seems very possible they could easily pull the whole thing down on themselves. i put 2 small screws a long the front leg near the edge of the shelf it sits on so this is much less likely to happen now!!
If they offer a new remote I'd get it. bigger with more functions and better better track pad please.

What's great about it: price, quality
What's not so great: remote, slightly ahead of its time?

I would recommend this to a friend!
18 out of 21 found this review helpful
 
masta247

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Judging by your needs go for Samsung LE40C650 or Sony 40EX500. They are hands down the best. The only issue is high input lag so they are not great for fast games but it's true for most this year's sets because input lag is caused by high amounts of image enhancers that have to process the image which takes a bunch of milliseconds.
Other than games demanding fast reflexes these sets are great in that price range and they cost about 600 pounds. They are not LED TVs though so they won't be as slim but the picture quality will be better. Both are based on the same S-PVA panel, electronics and motion enhancement algorithms are also very similar (top notch) as well as image processors. The main difference is that Samsung uses algorithms that make their colors more "pop", vivid while at Sony they certainly prefer more calm and "real" colors. The difference is not big and both sets are great for casual TV or movie watching. Black levels are great on both sets (better than this year's Panasonic Plasmas), colors and even motion are very good too. As good as you can get from a S-PVA panel these days and these panels are the best for movies.

edit: There's also C650's variant with matte screen instead of the glossy one - the LE40C630. If your room is too bright and there are reflections on your screen it's better to get the matte one. If not then go for the glossy screen as they make colors and blacks look cooler.
 
THEV1LL4N

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thanks so much, will look into this.

still on the lookout as January sales are 'round the corner... and there's a local Sony electronics shop not too far away (Casey knows which one - Soho Road, lol); and they might beat the price or warranty of many high street retailers.
 
masta247

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Well, most motion enhancing algorithms (100/200hz for Europe and 120/240hz for America) add to the input lag value. In case of modern TVs it might be way above 100ms, sometimes even 200ms. It's 1/5th of a second. Adding the joypad lag and natural game lag we might be talking about anything between 200 and 500ms of total lag between the very milisecond when you push a button and see the reaction on your screen. That's up to 0,5 second which is a lot for games requiring reflexes. It also reduces your joy as games become less responsive. Usually you don't really notice it but feel like something isn't as great as it should be.
S-PVA panels are best for movies since they rock the best black levels/contrast and nice colors but their RTC modules (response time compensation to reduce blurring) add another ~30ms of input lag. Sharp's ASV panels use inferior RTC while keeping a similar (but rather strange) picture structure to S-PVA so there's usually more blurring and ghosting.

What I really mean is that everything depends on what you want to do with your TV. For example all kinds of IPS panels have the fastest response time with no need for RTC and thus add the least input lag but they also have their weaknesses - they aren't as good as S-PVA if it comes to contrast so blacks are rather blueish. In their case you can usually turn on 100/200hz mode on and enjoy your game with a fairly low input lag. In case of S-PVA panels, especially in new Sony and Samsung TVs I wouldn't dare to. Playing in Game mode (which turns off all image enhancing algorithms) is the way to go since your console/PC does the image enhancing by itself anyway while rendering graphics. Obviously it sends signal in 50/60hz so you won't be getting more in game mode. After all the 100/200/whateverHz is just the chip in your TV creating an extra frame in between two frames of the (50/60hz) input signal. So you are guaranteed to be another 2 frames behind since it needs to save them to generate an extra frame (or 3 with 200/240hz) in between these said 2 frames before it'll display them all.

Either play in game mode or look for a good IPS-based TV since cheap ones have shitty image quality. And even then not every model will be guaranteed to have low input lag. Also, some companies (like Samsung or LG) use panel lotteries. You might get S-PVA or IPS but you might also get MVA from one of not-really-great chinese companies. However it only applies to some of Samsung's and LG's TVs. LE40C650 is a good TV regardless of which panel it has (usually there's S-PVA though except of 37 inch models as there's no 37 inch S-PVA so avoid them at all costs). That model however has input lag at around 40-60ms in game mode and over 100ms with 100/120hz on which is high in my book. Some people aren't as sensitive though. I can feel anything above 40ms, most nerds at AV forums claim that 30ms is the barrier but most normal people feel that something is wrong when it gets higher than 60-80ms. It all depends on a person though. If you don't play a lot of games then totally disregard what I just said as it won't matter in any other situation.
 
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I have been in situations on MW2 and Black Ops when I'm dead certain that I shot first at the guy yet I got killed. It could've been a perk, it could've been the difference in weapons, or it could have been the lag time due to the TV.
 
masta247

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S O F I said:
I have been in situations on MW2 and Black Ops when I'm dead certain that I shot first at the guy yet I got killed. It could've been a perk, it could've been the difference in weapons, or it could have been the lag time due to the TV.
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Well, in that case it's the TV lag + gamepad lag + natural game lag + internet connection ping which all together can give you a pretty massive lag between what really happens and what you see on your screen.
That's the main reason why pro players still sometimes play on huge CRT screens which have no lag at all. Plus the fastest possible internet connection (ping-wise) and corded gamepad/keyboard/mouse. Even if you're not a pro it will give you an advantage even over a slightly more skilled player.
 
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