New Trends in Arabic Anti-semitism

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MaroC

capt'n fruity
#21
Playing the pity card? I'm blaming you for low intelligence and a lack of comprehension because of the lack of intelligence and comprehension you show in your post. Nothing to do with wanting 'thank yous' and nothing to do with muslims. I expect a proper muslim to be well-educated and informed actually.

Also, it's nice how you equate "fuck muslims" comments with a video of people enjoying the sight of concentration camps and saying how they hope it happens again only by their hands.

Replying to the the rest of your post would be a waste of time.
Playing the 'youre playing the pity card'-card...well thats a new one. What kept you so long using this hand in the first place? :thumb:

But dont bother Chronical, and dont take it personally. I knew Dutch politicians had a Monica Lewinsky like devotion towards the Brittish and Americans. Kinda surprised to see that shit runs much deeper than that. Theyre proly proud of you and your work here. Even though theyre holding back on the thank yous
 

MaroC

capt'n fruity
#22
Interesting. You seem to equate anti-Islam sentiment with hatred for Muslims. Do you really not know there's a difference? A person can be anti-Islam yet be best friends with a Muslim. Because a person is not usually just their religion. So I'm anti all religions, but that doesn't mean I hate the majority of my fellow Americans. (I hate them for other reasons.) And I certainly don't hate the majority of my friends.

And hate is not always the right word. The feeling is usually secondary. The thinking comes first. I first condemn all religions for intellectual reasons. Then I might also hate them or not. So I condemn Islam. But I don't condemn Muslims. And if I also hated Islam, I still wouldn't hate Muslims. I might condemn and/or hate all fanatic, extremist Muslims, as do many Muslims themselves, but that's not a blanket hatred of Muslims. Plus there are no Muslims. That's a made-up category. There are people with Muslim beliefs. We condemn the beliefs and not the people. And if some Muslims feel, well, you condemn my religion, you condemn me, then that's on them and another good reason to condemn their religion or understanding of it.
Nice state of mind. But that shit doesnt work in reality. Here in Holland Geert Wilders is kicking the same bullshit about not having a problem with muslims, but with islam. He's just saying that because of legal tactics. Everybody (minus Duke) knows he hates muslims. But thats another story.

Youre claiming that hating islam is not hating muslims. Well you can be right about it, theoretically parhaps, and maybe here on this board. But in real life the line that separates the hate for islam from the hate for muslim isnt around as clearly as it is in your head. Because islam doesnt surround you in a physical form in real life. That means that as soon as people start to express their hatred for islam, 9 out of 10 times they end up targeting islam representatives...And that would be the mosques, muslims, Marocs etc etc.

Just an example...Geert Wilders claims to have no problems with muslims, just with islam because its a very dangerous religion, its backwards blabla etc etc. So he wants to protect people like Duke and Chronical from the islam tsunami that threatens them to take over the Netherlands. To achieve this he wants to stop muslim immigration. Strange plans huh for someone who claims te have no problem with muslims. :rolleyes:
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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#24
You´d rather have Bill O´reilly reading them to ya, now dont you...Lazy ass
I am aware of Bill O'Reilly, I have neither watched or read anything by him.

I have read teh bible and the Koran (Qu'ran), or at least a translation of them. All smells the same to me. Bullshit.
 

MaroC

capt'n fruity
#25
I am aware of Bill O'Reilly, I have neither watched or read anything by him.

I have read teh bible and the Koran (Qu'ran), or at least a translation of them. All smells the same to me. Bullshit.
You're not aware of Bill O'reilly.

So youve read the Quran. What exactly do you consider bullshit. And can you name the translater?
 

masta247

Well-Known Member
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#26
Let's be honest - all "holy books" I'm aware of are just full of fables. No translation would help them. However they are worth reading in their own way. If you read and believe that there was a prophet super-human with supernatural powers who was so cool that you should not spell his name or you'll get punished by eternal flames of hell then you're pretty silly.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#27
But in real life the line that separates the hate for islam from the hate for muslim isnt around as clearly as it is in your head.
I don't disagree with this. A lot of dumb people hate muslims like some hate jews or whatever. My point was, which you acknowledged, that it's not always like that, esp relating to the statements made on the board.
 

Ristol

New York's Ambassador
#28
MaroC, I've seen you do this one thing a lot, and I rather like it. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you accuse that person of getting their information from Bill O'Reilly. I think this is inspired.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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#31
You're not aware of Bill O'reilly.

So youve read the Quran. What exactly do you consider bullshit. And can you name the translater?
Read my post. I AM AWARE OF BILL O'REILLY.


I don't care enough to name the parts I agree or disagree with, same with the bible. I bought a translated copy, I dunno who the translator was. The book itself is in storage with all my other books. I don't have room for the ones I have read, currently.
 

MaroC

capt'n fruity
#32
I don't disagree with this. A lot of dumb people hate muslims like some hate jews or whatever. My point was, which you acknowledged, that it's not always like that, esp relating to the statements made on the board.
Nah. I agree with you that is not always like that in real life. But that doesnt count for the almost all the statements on this board. There's a wide acceptance of islam/muslim hate on this board. If youre in the middle of it, like most of you are, you'd probably have no clue 'cause you would be not able to see it. Me on the other hand, i havent been on this site for a couple of years. The last time i visited this site on a daily base must have been right around the time you got hated on for always posting the :D smiley in your posts. So im noticing the hate that slipped into the member's heads.

An example. A kid tells us that a muslim girl wants to break all msn contacts with him. All boardmembers are furious. How could she? Fuck her! Fuck islam. A day later...Another kid, this time this kids happens to be smart and good looking, posts a list of mosques and muslim women and children that have been attacked and everybody is like...well, uuuuhh. yeah...uuh. They shouldve hired some security and uuuh, yeah...look at the palestinians and other muslim extremists.

Now tell me that change in nuance isnt driven by hate
 

MaroC

capt'n fruity
#33
Read my post. I AM AWARE OF BILL O'REILLY.


I don't care enough to name the parts I agree or disagree with, same with the bible. I bought a translated copy, I dunno who the translator was. The book itself is in storage with all my other books. I don't have room for the ones I have read, currently.
I read your posts. The one where you referred to the holy scriptures as fairy tales, where you claimed you dont read them. And the second one, where you do a complete 180 and start yapping about you've already read them. you see...this is why crackers never earn a dime, because you suck motherfucker you should learn to rhyme. Talking about youre packing pistols buts its funny to me. You aint never been in trouble you just wanna be me.

And believe me buddy. Bill O'reilly does got a hold on you
 

masta247

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#36
Okay I'm no longer reading this. You're brainwashed (or stupid) beyond help. You either don't comprehend what people say or you're just trying to totally twist facts to make them fit your opinions. It's not about you being a Muslim at all (though I can see you making connections already) but about you making stupid ass posts, acting like an idiot because you can't really use your facts in a debate while not even considering the option that you might be wrong. So you want to convert the world to your own flawed logic.

edit: I'm not a jew, I am not a jew-supporter, I'm not a muslim hater, I don't think I even personally know a single Muslim, I'm not supporting Bill O'reilly and I barely know who he is, I'm not brainwashed by the media because I rarely even watch the news on tv, we don't even have western news channels to start with and ours are usually owned by political parties that don't give a shit about jews and muslims, I'm not a Christian bible-thumper, I'm not gay, I have no ties with Israel.
 

MaroC

capt'n fruity
#37
Okay I'm no longer reading this. You're brainwashed (or stupid) beyond help. You either don't comprehend what people say or you're just trying to totally twist facts to make them fit your opinions. It's not about you being a Muslim at all (though I can see you making connections already) but about you making stupid ass posts, acting like an idiot because you can't really use your facts in a debate while not even considering the option that you might be wrong. So you want to convert the world to your own flawed logic.
Can someone tell masta, since he's no longer reading this, that i dont care. i never talked to him in the first place

Yeah. And tell him he should concentrate more on what he is, instead of what he isnt.
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#38
Lets get back to actually discussing things. The last few days about 4 threads in WoW have headed into the same direction with nothing but bickering (guilty of it myself). From this point I'm going to delete any post that contains a personal attack, something that mocks another person or is completely unrelated to the topic.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#39
I can't be bothered with this thread anymore. It has been ruined by a religious nut. I'm off to watch 16 hours of Bill O'Reilly on my TIVO.
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
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#40
An example. A kid tells us that a muslim girl wants to break all msn contacts with him. All boardmembers are furious. How could she? Fuck her! Fuck islam. A day later...Another kid, this time this kids happens to be smart and good looking, posts a list of mosques and muslim women and children that have been attacked and everybody is like...well, uuuuhh. yeah...uuh. They shouldve hired some security and uuuh, yeah...look at the palestinians and other muslim extremists.

Now tell me that change in nuance isnt driven by hate

You see what you WANT to see. You apparently want to be the picked on kid so you choose to see that.

The muslim girl story was a personal story posted by a member. People say "fuck her" and some atheists, including me, said "fuck her religion". Now, my specific hatred for Islam, while it burns proud and strong and with unyielding flame, is not bigger than my hatred for Judaism or Christianity. I have explained this many times. There is no specific hate for you there. I am very sorry to disappoint you.

The reason no one creamed all over your flamey-mosque list is because 1.) It was kinda off-topic and 2.) With your unrational posts, abrasive behaviour, unfounded insults and total self-righteousness you've already alienated any other posters in WoW.

This is not because you're a muslim or giving some push against the prevailing atheist mindset on here, no. It's because you're an asshole that misreads people's posts, twists their words and insults them. That's why people don't like you. It has very little to do with your faith.

Although I would not be the least bit surprised if you managed to turn this into a "you hate cos i'm a poor wittle muslim" thing.
 
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