God Exists...

[Shadows]

since mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists since we cannot prove it.


What do you have to say about this quote?

 

[Sebastian]

I dont get it.

 

[Chronic]

Silly

 

[S. Fourteen]

sounds like a dog chasing its tail

 

[Flipmo]

I don't understand what you're saying, and because I don't understand, I'm gonna take it as disrespect. So you best watch your mouth, you hear... ush:

 

[Jokerman]

What do you have to say about this quote?

I don't know what you think this quote is saying, but it's not a statement of belief in God or the devil's existence by its author. The author was André Weil, an important mathematician. If he had any religion, then it was mathematics, and all he's expressing with this quote is his wonderment at the consistency of math and his frustration that one can never prove that consistency. Invoking God and the devil were just his way of saying it dramatically. Any mathematician would relate. It's similar to Einstein's "God does not play dice with the Universe" quote. Had nothing to do with belief in God. Just Einstein being dramatic (and mischievous).

It would be similar to me sayng, "love is proof of God, and love's end is proof of the devil." Or "Tupacboard is proof of God, and Tha Wood taking it over is proof of the devil."

 

[Shadows]

^that's what I originally thought.

My friend said that it was more behind it, saying that BECAUSE math is consistent, then, that just means God made everything to work specifically, or w/e he said.

 

[S O F I]

^I call bullshit that you originally thought that. LOL

I know Sebastian is with me, the cynic.

 

[Shadows]

^nope.

 

[_carmi]

i have to agree with SOFI. why else would you make this thread?

 

[Shadows]

^Because, there are still ppl here that believe in God, and not ONE has ever had a 'logical' argument, so I presented them with one that seemed decent.

 

[Casey]

/\ But there was neither logic or an argument in what you posted.

Anyone searching for a logical argument to the proof of god is wasting their time because there isn't one. Faith is completely illogical and irrational.

And if you take away that ridiculous layer of what people consider to be "sacred" - ie you're supposed to tread lightly to avoid offending religious folk, then all that remains is stupidity and ignorance.

Let's all ignore scientific facts and choose to believe in fairy stories instead.

 

[Duke]

/\ But there was neither logic or an argument in what you posted.

Anyone searching for a logical argument to the proof of god is wasting their time because there isn't one. Faith is completely illogical and irrational.

And if you take away that ridiculous layer of what people consider to be "sacred" - ie you're supposed to tread lightly to avoid offending religious folk, then all that remains is stupidity and ignorance.

Let's all ignore scientific facts and choose to believe in fairy stories instead.

Oh no, it's even worse. They ignore just the science that they don't agree with it. The rest is fair game and obviously true. You'd never find a reli-freak debating the way his cell-phone works. Or his car, or any of the zillion technological innovations science has brought us.

But when it comes to the evolutionary theory, it's suddenly all bogus en nonsense.

So sad.

 

[masta247]

Oh no, it's even worse. They ignore just the science that they don't agree with it. The rest is fair game and obviously true. You'd never find a reli-freak debating the way his cell-phone works. Or his car, or any of the zillion technological innovations science has brought us.

But when it comes to the evolutionary theory, it's suddenly all bogus en nonsense.

So sad.

I know many who do. But I don't know anyone who denies the evolutionary theory though.
I know people who doubt it or let a thought that it might not be the case but I don't know a single person saying that it's definitely a lie.

 

[S. Fourteen]

^Ever heard of Miroslaw Orzechowski?

 

[masta247]

yeah okay but he's a retard and nobody remembers him.
What I've meant though is that I haven't encountered people like these personally.

 

[S. Fourteen]

^ lol I've never actually encounter one either. They usually say evolution is work of God.

 

[S O F I]

Evolution is work of the Japanese.

 

[S. Fourteen]

I'm not really sure what that means. You're slipping lately S O F I. Truly overrated.

 

[S O F I]

I am the iPhone.