Technology Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive to cost $400 USD

#21
Rukas said:
And honestly, I didnt want to even go there because I dont like to speculate. But to take a Euro price and convert it and say that is what its going to cost in the US is simply retarded. Retarded.

You're forgetting that the Euros have to pay import tax and shipping costs, etc etc.

Current HD DVD players cost EU1300+ while they only cost US$999 plus in the states, which is significantly less if you do the conversion.

So stop with the bullshit and get your numbers and arguments correct for once.
Ok still, big deal, there would be a difference of around $50. I checked the price on an add on product for the 360, the wireless controller. On Amazon it is $50US or 30GBP. Using a linear equation the hd dvd addon would equate to $333USD
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#22
bigmack said:
Blue Ray supporting studios
----------------
20th Century Fox
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Electronic Arts
MGM Studios
Paramount Pictures
Sony Pictures Entertainment
The Walt Disney Company
Vivendi Universal Games
Warner Bros.

HD DVD supporting studios
-----------------------------
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
New Line Cinema
Paramount Pictures
The Walt Disney Company
Universal Studios
Warner Bros.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Out dated and wrong.

HD DVD supporting studios
-----------------------------
Paramount Pictures,
Warner Bros.,
Buena Vista Home Entertainment,
New Line,
The Walt Disney Company,
HBO,
DreamWorks,
Image Entertainment,
Magnolia Pictures,
Brentwood Home Video,
Warner Music Group,
Ryko,
Goldhil Entertainment,
Studio Canal,
and Universal Studios and all their sub divisions EXCLUSIVLY, Universal is huge come on.

There are no 90GB HD DVD discs,show me somewhere where it says that. Theoretical limit for HD DVD is only 60GB,check the spec sheet.
Three layers HD DVD's = 90GB.

Yes blue ray has only released 25GB movie disc so far,but the 50 are coming out within months.
And have been for more months.... We'll see.


The article is fair,but how does it prove blue ray is overhyped? It just says sony is being late with their technology.
Of course it proves its all just hype, Sony advertising that it HAS a 200gb capacity but really all they've managed to do is 25gb, that is hype. Saying it is "Beyond High Definition," that is HYPE! And if it can not deliver, then it is over hyped.

That is because HD DVD had a head start. We don't know how many units that %33 extra represents. Come November 17th,the table will turn in one day. You don't judge success by launch or early in the life of a technology.
HD-DVD only had a month and a bit head start. It has more movies out and more units sold.

Look, Blu Ray is great tech, probably better than HD DVD theoretically, but its more expensive, over hyped, has more problems, harder to make and in my opinion it will simply flop.

I backed up my numbers
Incorrectly.
 
#23
the problem with blu ray is it's more expensive and the quality isn't as good as HD DVD because the blu ray discs that have come out are encoded in MPEG2 while HD DVD is something alot better which I can't remember what the hell the code term for it is.
 
#24
Rukas said:
Out dated and wrong.

HD DVD supporting studios
-----------------------------
Paramount Pictures,
Warner Bros.,
Buena Vista Home Entertainment,
New Line,
The Walt Disney Company,
HBO,
DreamWorks,
Image Entertainment,
Magnolia Pictures,
Brentwood Home Video,
Warner Music Group,
Ryko,
Goldhil Entertainment,
Studio Canal,
and Universal Studios and all their sub divisions EXCLUSIVLY, Universal is huge come on.
Well i was listing the major movie corporations,but if you want to list the little guys too,theres a huge for the blue ray,but that list magically disappeared from wikipedia since a few days ago,hmmm.Sure HD DVD has universal exclusively,but blue ray also has its exclusives like 20th century fox,which is also huge.

Rukas said:
Three layers HD DVD's = 90GB.
one layer is 15GB. 3 layers is 45GB. you're probably talking about double sided discs,which dont count as single discs.If you have to flip it, I consider it as 2 discs.





Rukas said:
Of course it proves its all just hype, Sony advertising that it HAS a 200gb capacity but really all they've managed to do is 25gb, that is hype. Saying it is "Beyond High Definition," that is HYPE! And if it can not deliver, then it is over hyped.
No,hype would be if they advertised something,and it never came out,ever. If the 50GB discs don't come out,I agree with you,the talk would have been hype,and trust me,i would never buy a blue ray disc player ever.But just because they are a little late doesn't mean it was proven to only be hype. It's like you expect things yesterday with technology,but that doesn't happen most of the time. Yea Sony is a little too cocky,but that's what you have to be like when running a business. I can give a shit about whether a company goes under or not, it doesn't affect me. The only thing I care about is a good robust product.




Rukas said:
HD-DVD only had a month and a bit head start. It has more movies out and more units sold.
But blue ray has made almost %50 more money. Come the day the ps3 is launched,that's half a million more units in one day. PS3 undoubtfully will sell out at launch. 1.2 total units by years end. 6 million by march 07. Bundling blue ray with the ps3 was a smart move. How many people will flock to buy the 360 hd dvd addon? If you didn't force it in the bundle,you are taking a chance. But like I said,it is not microsofts format so they dont give a shit if it sells or not.

Buy the hd dvd addon,you end up paying more than you did for the ps3 with the blue ray included.

$499 = ps3+blue ray
$399 + (lets just say $200 for hd dvd addon,I dont even want to argue about that anymore but i think it will be more) = $599

Now I am in no way comparing console prices,im comparing console with next gen player prices. Tell me which package looks more appealing for people interested in a next gen console and next gen video player?

Rukas said:
Look, Blu Ray is great tech, probably better than HD DVD theoretically, but its more expensive, over hyped, has more problems, harder to make and in my opinion it will simply flop.
When you say it will flop because it's too expensive,do you actually believe that the introductory price is going to determine the fate of these formats? It's a known fact that when new tech is introduced, it's expensive at first. Have you forgotten about DVD? In a few years time, a blank blue ray or hd dvd will cost a buck. Players will cost 30 or 50 bucks at walmart. Don't you think capacity plays a big role in a consumer's desicion? I would rather get a single disc with double,triple or quad capacity more even if it costs a few cents extra.

Of course many things have problems when they are new,but that's just the nature of technology. That's why these next gen players are equipped to handle firmware upgrades. Theres a problem? Hook up your ethernet cable to the back of the drive and upgrade the firmware. If you really think a product having problems when it comes out automatically means it will flop,you really don't understand technology. It's natural for that to happen. Early adopters are basically your beta testers. Release a product,early adopters end up testing it for you, you improve your product,your production gets rolling,you buy parts in larger quantity, you produce cheaper product,release new and improved product. It's called evolution of technology. You can't expect anything to be perfect because that's not how it works.

Rukas said:
Incorrectly.
i don't think so
 
#25
DUB CEE said:
the problem with blu ray is it's more expensive and the quality isn't as good as HD DVD because the blu ray discs that have come out are encoded in MPEG2 while HD DVD is something alot better which I can't remember what the hell the code term for it is.
Refer to post 20,i explained it. When using the same codec,picture is nearly identical. Apparently,studios have began using VC1 on blue ray. Take a look at this review of the exact same movie using the exact same codec on the exact same HDTVs. This is basically a real comparison as the earlier comparisons consisted of blue ray using MPEG2 on such small capacity while hd dvd used vc1.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blurayvshddvd_roundtwo.html
 

Latest posts

Donate

Any donations will be used to help pay for the site costs, and anything donated above will be donated to C-Dub's son on behalf of this community.

Members online

No members online now.
Top