Technology Xbox 360 and new Xbox Live specs leak

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The One, The Only
#61
I'm quietly confident the xbox is backwards compatible because in the colony video links i posted they have people playing halo 2 on xbox 360, but there has not been any official announcement
 
#62
Nice article for comparison, but it won't touch pc for a while in the gaming arena because it is a console..

1. Consoles are designed for T.v's. T.v's screen resolution is appauling when compared with pc monitors.

2. Consoles are new to the online gaming arena, don't have as much players, since xbox and ps2 users can't play eachother

3. PC has more games than all consoles combined

4. You buy a console you get what you get, Consoles life span is usually say 5years. PC's just continue to get better and better monthly, with constant upgrading. Even though you have to be a rich bastard to have all the latest tech.

5. The main reason is you can't patch, or MOD any console game!! so again you get what you buy.

Consoles one big advantage is that there cheap as fuck, and i think these consoles have finally started moving in the right direction, with online gaming(finally!). It's a cheap alternative for a quick and fun fix. Actually racing games are probably more fun on consoles. But first person shooters are better on the pc, since you have keyboard and mouse, and strategy games are obviously better since the detail, mechanics and complexity are fare more advanced.
 

K D

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#63
Rukas said:
Sorry but Im a 100% MS hasnt announced it, maybe Nintendo or Sony did over night, but as of yesturday, no one had said anything.
Iwata also announced that Revolution would feature backward compatibility with GameCube, which means that consumers will be able to play GCN software on the next console.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22839 <-- for xbox

i cant find the ps3 article but trust me its true its backwards compatible ...
 

Rukas

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#64
groobz said:
Nice article for comparison, but it won't touch pc for a while in the gaming arena because it is a console..

1. Consoles are designed for T.v's. T.v's screen resolution is appauling when compared with pc monitors.
These games are all HDTV. I have a TV that looks as good as a PC screen. Thats not an issue anymore for most people, and soon HDTVs will be the norm.

2. Consoles are new to the online gaming arena, don't have as much players, since xbox and ps2 users can't play eachother
Xbox Live is the future, its very very popular around the world, and will be even more popular now that its going to be free. Its better than PC gaming because it levels the playing field, everyone has the same hardware so the tech elite wont have an advantage, and also its funner to play with friends sitting around a big TV. I know that when I have people over, we dont sit around the PC screen drinking beer, we sit in the lounge with the consoles and beer and watch TV, listen to music, and play games. Its just a more enjoyable experiance all around and will continue to grow.
3. PC has more games than all consoles combined
So? There are more skateboard models than BMWs, that doesnt mean that skateboards are better. Quality over quantity.

4. You buy a console you get what you get, Consoles life span is usually say 5years. PC's just continue to get better and better monthly, with constant upgrading. Even though you have to be a rich bastard to have all the latest tech.
I would rather spend $500 every 5 years, thats a %100 a year, for a cutting edge console, than have to fork out for monthly PC upgrades. At last check, video cards here go for about %499 for anything half decent to $799 for cutting edge shit (I was at IT warehouse yesturday.)

Console games will end up looking better than PC games because with PC games, programmers have to code for a vast combination of hardware. With consoles, they only have one specific system set up they have to worry about.

5. The main reason is you can't patch, or MOD any console game!! so again you get what you buy.
You shouldnt NEED to patch console games, they usually dont have as many bugs as PC games because developers know they cant fall back on patches. As for add ons, you can download extra maps, cars, levels, etc from Xbox Live and this will only expand more and more in the future.

Consoles one big advantage is that there cheap as fuck, and i think these consoles have finally started moving in the right direction, with online gaming(finally!). It's a cheap alternative for a quick and fun fix. Actually racing games are probably more fun on consoles. But first person shooters are better on the pc, since you have keyboard and mouse, and strategy games are obviously better since the detail, mechanics and complexity are fare more advanced.
Ill agree that stratergy games are better on PC,but I never really liked games like that, although used to love C&C. I love FPS thats my genre, Im playing through Half Life 2 right now, and its awsome. But like I said, when the friends are around we wont throw HL2 on we'll throw Halo 2 on, its just more fun. So while HL2 is the superior game at the moment, I have a lot more fun playing Halo 2.

It just depends on how you game, I dont really have time to play games by myself, and only do it when friends are around drinking before we go out, and for that, consoles rule.
 

Rukas

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#65
K D said:
Iwata also announced that Revolution would feature backward compatibility with GameCube, which means that consumers will be able to play GCN software on the next console.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22839 <-- for xbox

i cant find the ps3 article but trust me its true its backwards compatible ...

Thats not an official announcment, its still speculation based on old reports.

Like I said, nothing official has been announced.

It prob will happen on the 360, its hardware setup and programming code is similar to the Xbox so it wouldnt be too hard to do.

The PS3 is very diff from the PS2 so it could be more difficult.

I really dont care, I want next gen for next gen games, not to play old shit.

If I want to play my old games Ill break out my old console.
 

K D

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#66
Rukas said:
Thats not an official announcment, its still speculation based on old reports.

Like I said, nothing official has been announced.

It prob will happen on the 360, its hardware setup and programming code is similar to the Xbox so it wouldnt be too hard to do.

The PS3 is very diff from the PS2 so it could be more difficult.

I really dont care, I want next gen for next gen games, not to play old shit.

If I want to play my old games Ill break out my old console.
thats true ive never popped in a old ps1 game on the ps2 so its a waist i guess but well find out 100% in a cople of hours so im not gonna bother posting up any more shit .. everyone will find out everything tomorrow anyway
 

Salar

The One, The Only
#67
PLus to add to ruks arguemtn against groobz's statement on PC's. POINT 5
current generation xbox games can now be patched. Halo 2 did it, Splinter cell 3 is going to be doing it soon
 
#68
Rukas said:
And the Xbox has THREE 3.2ghz cores.
rukas do you know what 3 3.2ghz cores means ?

its 3 cpus at 3.2ghz total its just raises the gigaflops like i posted earlier

3.2ghz x 3 cores = 3.2ghz

do you guys even know anything about hardware ??

Rukas said:
What the fuck? 3 years? PS2 launched October 2000. Xbox launched November 2001.
my bad i supposed to write that the system board was developed 3 yrs before xbox's pentium 3 board

what the fuck does have bill gates have you guys on pay roll or something ? :p

ps3 is backwards compatible
 
#69
Rukas / The_One

1. No! It is a problem for most people because most people don't have High definition T.Vs. So standard t.v quality it is for most people.

2. Yes it is the future and is poplular, But the amount of users wouldn't even be half of online pc gamers, so again less users less competition. + most pc gamers look down on console users because its like a cheap kids toy,, you miss out on the real great players. Level playing field, yeah i'll give you that point.

3. More PC games to chose from and better quality to chose from. Because PC games are more IN DEPTH!, I mean you have more control over everything,, From having more options and control on editing the game, not just this little control pad. Xbox games are usually made for 2 or 3 seperate consoles as well, there arnt' that many xbox only xclusive games. Games are way more in detail, more specs, just better boys.

4. Yes it is very expensive! you have to be rich or have a fulltime job. But this is gaming for the big boys! you pay for what you GET! you pay for a cheap xbox your stuck with it, but pro gamers don't usually settle for a console.

5. NO game is perfect,, go to any xbox gaming site, and its not all positive feedback. A few patches may be made like "One" said, but its usually just to fix bugs ect,, not to improve the play. Pc programers are much more instrumental in releasing patches in improving everything.

Moding and editing is useless,, if you want something done,you have to pray that xbox people will eventually do it one day,, PC gamers have gaming comunities and modders who can modify and change the game, graphics, rosters, or whatever you want as it happens.

You like FPS games? xbox still has a long way to catch up to pc in that genre. i mean just not enough control with a controlor.

Yes I agree that xbox ps2 are the thing of the future for gaming,, but they still ain't touching pcs overall at the moment. Majority of people will agree with that. u bukkaki boys.
 

Rukas

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#70
PaulyPac said:
rukas do you know what 3 3.2ghz cores means ?

its 3 cpus at 3.2ghz total its just raises the gigaflops like i posted earlier

3.2ghz x 3 cores = 3.2ghz

do you guys even know anything about hardware ??



my bad i supposed to write that the system board was developed 3 yrs before xbox's pentium 3 board

what the fuck does have bill gates have you guys on pay roll or something ? :p

ps3 is backwards compatible

I never said it was more than 3.2ghz. You were saying it like it was simply one CPU running at 3.2ghz, that is not the case, like I said, its THREE CPUs running at 3.2ghz, with two hyper threads each. That definitely out performs one CPU at 3.2ghz.

Regardless, like I stated, the PS2 is 5 times faster than the Xbox using Sony’s logic; yet we all know the Xbox shits on the PS2 in graphics and performance. The Cell could be 60 times faster, and still possibly fail.

Im not saying it will, Im not a fan boy like you, I don’t believe everything coming out of someone elses mouth. Im here to level the playing field and kill the hype.

The Cell may own, it may not, Ill buy both systems, maybe all three, but your hype of the Cell is flat out BULLSHIT.

Bill Gates pay me? Wow you’re funny. Show me once post where I ever said the 360 would be better than the PS3? Just cause I don’t by into the Sony hype like I do, you automatically label me a MS fan boy. LOL. You’re almost as big a joke as Sony’s hype machine.

Oh, and Sony hasn’t announced if its backwards compatible or not, that just more speculation coming from the Sony fan boys. It may very well be, but dont say it is until you KNOW it is.

Seriously, I hate big business hype, it’s the same bullshit that runs the major media news networks, its all propaganda and hype. Im still waiting to be able to pilot rockets with my PS2….
 
#71
Rukas said:
The Cell may own, it may not, Ill buy both systems, maybe all three, but your hype of the Cell is flat out BULLSHIT.
explain ?

how am i a fan boy now ? you guys are the ones defending xbox with every post... ahhh nevermind its all good

Rukas said:
Oh, and Sony hasn’t announced if its backwards compatible or not, that just more speculation coming from the Sony fan boys. It may very well be, but dont say it is until you KNOW it is.
you're wrong again...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=2171

Sony Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi also confirmed that work is underway to make the PS3 compatible with previous generation PlayStations, but that challenges lie ahead. "[Backwards compatibility] is our desire and it's something we need to take on. We really want to make backwards compatibility happen--we think that's the beauty of the PS," said Kutaragi.
 

Rukas

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#72
PaulyPac said:
explain ?

how am i a fan boy now ? you guys are the ones defending xbox with every post... ahhh nevermind its all good



you're wrong again...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=2171

Sony Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi also confirmed that work is underway to make the PS3 compatible with previous generation PlayStations, but that challenges lie ahead. "[Backwards compatibility] is our desire and it's something we need to take on. We really want to make backwards compatibility happen--we think that's the beauty of the PS," said Kutaragi.

You [conveniently] forgot to mention:
It's expected that Microsoft's successor to the Xbox will also offer backwards compatibility with current hardware - although the recently announced decision to partner with ATI rather than NVIDIA may cause trouble in this respect, according to some graphics experts.
"ATI's hardware runs the same sort of pixel shaders and so on that the NVIDIA chipset does," one graphics programmer working on Xbox games explained to us, "but getting the hardware to exactly mimic the behaviour of an NVIDIA part could be very tricky... It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft can get Xbox 2 to play Xbox games without glitches, especially ones that have been written to tie in closely with the console's specs."
Regardless, I wouldn’t trust an article written in February 2003, over two years ago, as PROOF.

Im quite sure it will be announced at E3, Im all for it, Ill never use it but hey knock urself out. I never put ps1 games in the ps2, ever, but hey, if it floats your boat yippie. But this article is hardly proof.
 
#73
wow you a regular comedian :rolleyes:

the article is from an interview with ken kutaragi from a japanese newspaper who confirmed ps3 backwards compatibility

there are many newer articles that say it to..

You [conveniently] forgot to mention:

why would i want to mention that...


Rukas said:
The Cell may own, it may not, Ill buy both systems, maybe all three, but your hype of the Cell is flat out BULLSHIT.
and can you explain what you meant by this ?
 

Rukas

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#74
PaulyPac said:
wow you a regular comedian :rolleyes:

the article is from an interview with ken kutaragi from a japanese newspaper who confirmed ps3 backwards compatibility

there are many newer articles that say it to..

You [conveniently] forgot to mention:

why would i want to mention that...
Why exactly, seeing as you're a Sony fan boy and only back Sony and wouldnt even dare ever mentioning anything Xbox releated. From Xbox backwards compatibility to posting next Gen screen shots and saying they are PS3 screens, even using them to try to put the 360 down, yet failing to mention those games will be out on 360 as well and could even be Xbox 360 screenshots! You're a hater.

As for the article, things could have changed since 2003, thats all I am saying. Ill wait until E3 for the specs, but, im not saying it wont happen, Im saying I want to wait till its confirmed. I dotn even care about BWC so I dont know why were talking about it, its the lamest gimmick ever.

and can you explain what you meant by this ?
What I meant was, you dont even have PS3 specs, and even before the 360 specs, you still hype up the PS3 and just believe the bullshit Sony hype.

Ill probably buy all three consoles, maybe not the Rev though we'll see. I look forward to the PS3, but I refuse to be brainwashed by the Sony hype machine.

I can safely sit here and discuss the Xbox 360 without the PS3, unlike you guys who make everything a versus thread because you love the hype like it was the latest wrestling drama or 50 cent beef. Bullshit.
 
#75
i am not a fan boy, now you are being stupid, im not hating on anything

Rukas said:
What I meant was, you dont even have PS3 specs, and even before the 360 specs, you still hype up the PS3 and just believe the bullshit Sony hype.

im not even reading sony shit, im more intrested in the hardware sony,ibm,toshiba spent 400 million dollars on the cell processor

the cell processor has a 4.6 GHz clock speed shifting 6.4 GB
its at 4.6 gHz, 384Gflops/s

ahh forget it now, ill post again when i see the e3 stuff
 

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The One, The Only
#78
i just visit it now because my ign membership ran out (i got it last year so i can see halo 2 previews)
Does anyone know how long from right now, the xbox360, ps3 and nintendo system will be announced? If so let me know asap
 

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