wtf is Iran up to?

Snowman

Well-Known Member
#22
Thats Why We Gotta Use A MOAB Bomb, An Level Iran.

Send Them Back To The Stone Age. Dont Listen To The UN, Go Over There An Handle Them.

Bin Laden Does Have More Material Than Pac. :thumb:
 

Flipmo

VIP Member
Staff member
#23
Nuclear weapons are neither a priviledge or right. They are completely useless, just another warfare toy to use on innocent lives, just like Japan during WW2
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#24
FrOgStRaDaMuS said:
iraq wasnt a threat to america.. u know it ..i know it... the govt knows it

talking shyt doesnt lead to loosing lives... attacking a country who isnt a threat is tho
well the govt seemed to think so from the 80's up to the time we invaded. through 3 adminstrations.

if they werent a threat then why did clinton order u.s. planes to bomb places in iraq they thought were making bio and chemical weapons over and over again on more than one occasion? if sadaam wasnt a threat why did clinton try to take him out from the inside through his own people?
 
#25
so anyone except the us and their allies are crazy mofos? as far as i'm concerned no one should have nukes, not the us or its allies, nor the "crazy mofos" you are referring to.
 
#27
PuffnScruff said:
well the govt seemed to think so from the 80's up to the time we invaded. through 3 adminstrations.

if they werent a threat then why did clinton order u.s. planes to bomb places in iraq they thought were making bio and chemical weapons over and over again on more than one occasion? if sadaam wasnt a threat why did clinton try to take him out from the inside through his own people?
Just because the us perceived them as a threat doesn't mean they really are. Saddam was a threat to his own people, not the American people. I have yet to see any proof that Saddam or anyone who had ties to him had any plans to attack America
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#28
Devious187 said:
Just because the us perceived them as a threat doesn't mean they really are. Saddam was a threat to his own people, not the American people. I have yet to see any proof that Saddam or anyone who had ties to him had any plans to attack America
wait for it, there are a few reporters that are trying to get the pentagon to release documents that prove there is a link between sadaam and osama through third parties. but for reasons unknown the penatgon doesnt want to release those documents at this time
 
#29
well forgive me for being skeptical, but i don't really find any aspect of the American government (or most governments) to be trustworthy. How do we know that if and when that info comes out it won't be doctored or altered, or even falsified? As far as i'm concerned, with that many lives on the line (of both American and Iraqi lives) you should at least be able to show some evidence to back your claims. Don't forget, most of the intelligence the US had at the start of the war turned out to be false (cough*wmd's*cough). I mean after all Osama even said he hates Saddam, so I find it hard to believe that he would work with them
 
#30
puff so your telling me you was curled up under your blankets at every waking thought of saddam or the president of iran having a nuclear weapon LMAO!!!!!

get the hell out of here with that... "they thought they thought they thought" they havent found shyt over there in 2 decades... wow some chemicals that prolly only have a 1000mile top distance and some tough talk

okokok... israel is with in the 1000miles.. oh god...

united states citizens need to stop letting the govt scare them for no apparent reason
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#31
FrOgStRaDaMuS said:
puff so your telling me you was curled up under your blankets at every waking thought of saddam or the president of iran having a nuclear weapon LMAO!!!!!
yeah...weren't you that person spooning me:confused:
 

SiGh

Who's there?
Staff member
#32
govtz fulla shit. who remembers the color alert scare? today is red alert..high possibility of terrorist attacks n shit. tommrrw is yellow alert. shit was gettin so stupid..that we started color coordinating to what we were gonna wear n shit. so gay.
 
#33
psychological warfare... america does it to keep the citizens behind them when shit goes down


other nations take it to the extreme and use it to keep the citizens under them

no better or worse really
 

Shahin

Active Member
#34
I would like to remind everyone that there is no evidence suggesting Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons at this point, there is no evidence suggesting they have the capabilities to do so and that their nuclear program is being fully supervised by the IAEA. The debate shouldn't really be about whether Iran should have nuclear weapons at this point, rather if there is any evidence suggesting that's what they are actually pursuing.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#35
Shahin said:
I would like to remind everyone that there is no evidence suggesting Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons at this point, there is no evidence suggesting they have the capabilities to do so and that their nuclear program is being fully supervised by the IAEA. The debate shouldn't really be about whether Iran should have nuclear weapons at this point, rather if there is any evidence suggesting that's what they are actually pursuing.
yeap. the media has made alot more into this than there may be. they have already been caught miss-quoting the president of iran once i cant help but wonder what else we are being told he is saying when he isnt really saying it.
 
#36
FrOgStRaDaMuS said:
psychological warfare... america does it to keep the citizens behind them when shit goes down


other nations take it to the extreme and use it to keep the citizens under them

no better or worse really
Damn man, you couldnt be more clueless about Iran and the future problems it brings for you as an American.

In 1986 Iran began an effort to develop atomic weapons, consulting and contracting with Pakistan's Khan - father of the "Islamic bomb." Go do your research and look up info about Dr.Khan and his connection Iran. Following his advice, Iran also undertook mining uranium for enrichment with Khan-designed centrifuges - the beauty of this approach was that it avoided utilizing uranium that the IAEA knew Iran already had, and thus would avoid scrutiny.

Delivery systems came next. In 1988 China began helping Iran develop missiles, and North Korea then assisted with making longer-range versions.

Iran already aquired and tested Shahab 3 missiles built with the help of Russian scientists which are capable of annihilating Israel and eventually will have the technology capabilities of reaching Europe and America. Just strap a nice nuclear warhead on that sucker.

With a country whose leaders publicly say things such as "Today the slogan 'Death to America' belongs to each and every Iranian" -Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei

or "We should fully equip ourselves both in the offensive and defensive use of chemical, bacteriological, and radiological weapons. From now on, you should make use of the opportunity and perform this task" -Hashemi Rafsanjani 1988

"The use of an atomic bomb against Israel would destroy Israel completely, while against the world of Islam only would cause damages. Such a scenario is not inconcievable"
-Rafsanjani 2001

A country like Iran whose only goal is to annihilate the West and keep mullahs in charge should not be taken lightly Froggy. The only mistake about Iraq was that it wasnt Iran. Go research the July 1999 student uprising and how they assasinated and killed pro-democracy students of universities. They kill and torture anyone opposing them. The only assholes who defend this backwards dispicable country are people who think because its Islamic, its correct. But their just Muslim and not even from Iran. The mullahs are hated in Iran, and we're not talking about Saddam Hussein hate, whose only real opposers seem to be kurds and a handful of Iraqi's. The youth of Iran despise the mullahs, not safe in a country where like 70 percent of the population was born after the 79 revolution. The youth of Iran are fucked up in every sense, they want reforms. Its sad. And Iran with nukes is a very unsafe world for the West. As an American you should be concerned. Iran is far from another Iraq. Iran is dead serious and closer than you even know or the government even allows anyone to know, to mastering the nuclear weapon. WAKE UP already to the threat Islamic extremism poses to the world. And this is coming from someone who voted for Kerry.
 

Shahin

Active Member
#37
CoolWaterz said:
Iran is dead serious and closer than you even know or the government even allows anyone to know, to mastering the nuclear weapon.
Fear-mongering at it's finest. How do you know this again?
 
#38
Shahin said:
Fear-mongering at it's finest. How do you know this again?
Do your research man. On July 21, 1998 Iran with the help of Russian technicians tested their Shahab 3 prototype complete with a liquid-fueld engine designed by Russians. The CIA at that very time had said Iran was still 5-10 years away from developing medium range missiles capable of reaching Israel and would not capable of building a missile that could threaten the US before 2010. Well that was back in 1998. I research this shit. Go look it up, the even isnt disputed.they paraded the SHahab 3 missile around Tehran.. I could go on with more evidence when I have the time
 

Shahin

Active Member
#39
Oh I'm not disputing that at all, I'm well aware that they have missiles capable of reaching Europe. What I objected to was you saying Iran was close to mastering nuclear weapons as that would require a nuclear warhead, something there is no evidence Iran has the capabilities to develop.

Peace brother.
 

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