Why Kobe Bryant should get the MVP

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#21
lmao at sicc.Cought a nerve?

Me pulling his stats does not prove hes not a ball hog.You brought it up yourself the assist stat, i simply corrected you.How is that proving hes not a ball hog.I don't think so.

However, they do average 23 field goal attempts.

Sofi, be certain about what you're going to say and than say it.I don't reiterate nothing.Although i don't watch all Lakers games, i watch enough games and know what he is about.
So does dirk, so does melo so does ai so does lebron so does joe johnson so does gilbert arenas. You havent hit a nerve im simply pointing out the best thing you haters can come up with is he takes 20 + shots a night......Gonna have to use something better than that cuase i just named off a dozen players and one of them is your MVP this season...hang on i got more so did wilt chamberlin and so did micheal jordan..all those players are ball hogs to i suppose...not great players, just ball hogs, since thats your logic of a player that takes 20 plus shots a night.

You still havent answered me either when i asked who did he have to turn too aside from lamar odom and sometimes luke walten, who we all know is a passer first shooter last anyhow.

Secondly Kobe Bryant is not a point guard he is a shooting guard...i wonder what a shooting guard is suppose to do? Perhaps shoot? I dont know maybe im missing the purpose of the 2 guard maybe the 2 guard is the point guard and the point guard is the 2 guard?

Also too is Michael Jordan a ball hog?


pz
 
#22
So does dirk, so does melo so does ai so does lebron so does joe johnson so does gilbert arenas. You havent hit a nerve im simply pointing out the best thing you haters can come up with is he takes 20 + shots a night......Gonna have to use something better than that cuase i just named off a dozen players and one of them is your MVP this season...hang on i got more so did wilt chamberlin and so did micheal jordan..all those players are ball hogs to i suppose...not great players, just ball hogs, since thats your logic of a player that takes 20 plus shots a night.

You still havent answered me either when i asked who did he have to turn too aside from lamar odom and sometimes luke walten, who we all know is a passer first shooter last anyhow.

Secondly Kobe Bryant is not a point guard he is a shooting guard...i wonder what a shooting guard is suppose to do? Perhaps shoot? I dont know maybe im missing the purpose of the 2 guard maybe the 2 guard is the point guard and the point guard is the 2 guard?

Also too is Michael Jordan a ball hog?


pz
Actually my MVP only averaged 17 shots a night.

The difference between Kobe and all them players you named melo,ai,dirk,lebron and is that their teams are winning and Kobes team is not.

You Kobe lovers love to always drag Micheal Jordan into the Kobe conversation.Although Micheal Jordan took many shots, he made his teammates around them better.I'll stress that, Micheal Jordan made his teammates better players.Don't even tell me oh Jordan had Pippen and Kerry and all them payers.Yes he did have them, but he made them great players.Well maybe some exception to Pippen, he was already a decent self made player, but other Bulls teammates were just as good as current Kobe's teammates.But MJ somehow managed to get the most out of his teammates,he made them better players.Its not like prior to start of their 6 tittle dynasty all those mediocre Bulls players were already established and made players, no they were not,they were just as good as todays mediocre Lakers, the smush,wilton,cook,exc... But MJ accepted what he was given.He became a leader.He became a orchestrator.

So my point is, i don't buy people saying Kobe has much mediocre teammates than MJ did and that is why he can't trust his teammates and so he has to shot that much in order to win, i don't buy that.This Lakers/Suns series, in the fourth quarter of the last game i think, Kobe was shooting the basketball as if it was a hot potato.As soon as he'd get a ball, he would fire it up, no matter what distance and how many defenders around him, he was taking shots after shots and the worst thing he was missing most of them, but he kept shooting, freaking double team and he kept firing it.Even the crowd was booing him and wanting him to pass the ball.It was a ridiculous scene to watch.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#23
Actually Steve kerr is one of the best three point shooters in history of the NBA, not to mention Kukoc was no slouch, so yes the Bulls had better role players than the lakers do. Odom and Luke are about the only bright spot for that team, and Bynum shows signs of greatness but unfortunatly phil is not a big fan of the kid so he got little to no playing time.

Need u forget Michael Jordan couldnt even make kwame brown any better when he played for the wizards, u can't fix broken players like him he is a useless tool, and smush parker is just horrid, guy has no business playing in the NBA.

Kobe does have a bunch of mediocre players on his team excluding luke and odom, and kobe is a team leader but i would rathe rhave him heaving up shots over smush parker, brian cook, or kwame brown any day of the week.

There is no comparison betweens Kobe role players and jordans role players. The bulls had better role players than what kobe has had the last two season and thats obviouse, theres no rick fox or brian shaw or devon george or big shot horry. Theres a huge difference ur comparing an apple to a rotten banana. To even compare that bulls team to the lakers now is a farse.

pz
 
#24
You're not understanding me.Of course its a joke to compare that Bulls team to current Lakers team.But what i'm saying is before Steve Kerr became the player we all know of now (one of the best 3pt shooter),before Kukoc became Kukoc and exc.... they were all mediocre or less players.Same thing with current Lakers, Smush,Cook,Bynum are all mediocre players.They aren't ''made'' or ''established'' players yet.You comparing an apple to a rotten banana but what you should really compare is an apple with before banana is rotten or fresh banana.Thats my problem with you and thats what i don't buy, your excuse that current Lakers players are ''rotten'' and can't be fixed.Why is that?I don't believe that.Current Lakers team is only young, you haven't even seen what they can do.Why write them off so quick.I'm sure they were saying that too with Steve Kerr,Kukoc and rest of the Bulls when they first got to Bulls that they were ''rotten'' but look at them now.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#25
You're not understanding me.Of course its a joke to compare that Bulls team to current Lakers team.But what i'm saying is before Steve Kerr became the player we all know of now (one of the best 3pt shooter),before Kukoc became Kukoc and exc.... they were all mediocre or less players.Same thing with current Lakers, Smush,Cook,Bynum are all mediocre players.They aren't ''made'' or ''established'' players yet.You comparing an apple to a rotten banana but what you should really compare is an apple with before banana is rotten or fresh banana.Thats my problem with you and thats what i don't buy, your excuse that current Lakers players are ''rotten'' and can't be fixed.Why is that?I don't believe that.Current Lakers team is only young, you haven't even seen what they can do.Why write them off so quick.I'm sure they were saying that too with Steve Kerr,Kukoc and rest of the Bulls when they first got to Bulls that they were ''rotten'' but look at them now.
Actually the Bulls played pretty damn well after jordan left, hell they almost made the finals with that squade we where discussing, of ker and kukoc and pippen.

Bj Armstrong was another great 3 point shooter, man they where stacked.

pz
 
#26
Well at that point when Jordan left, they had already won three tittles.So it was already a dynasty so to speak and the players were already ''established'' somewhat, so you shouldn't really be that surprised that they had done so well without Jordan.

But i hope you understood me about comparing which Lakers team and Bulls team.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#27
The Lakers are going to be getting ride of pretty much everyone except luke and kobe. I understand what ur saying but some of the players the lakers had where not very good, smush parker had a terriable attitude, hence why farmar got some starts. Kwame is just a terriable player in all aspects he never lived up to the hype, but i have always felt he was a dud any how, the rest of the lakers are pretty much fillers, not knocking them every team needs them but this team needs more than two options on scoring, we need atleast 4.

Nets are a prime example of a team with three great players but if one of them doesnt show up they lose, reminds me of the Kobe and Lamar show.

pz
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
#28
How exactly did MJ make his teammates better. Yes he is a great leader but he didnt really make his teammates better. Getting doubled and kicking it out to the open man who makes the open shot is not making your teammates better. That is what Michael and Kobe did/do, only difference is the Bulls make their shots. Distracting the D and hittin a cutter every once in a while is not making your teammates better, sorry. If this comes down to making you teammates better than Magic is the greatest player to step on the court.

Matter of fact how does one make his teammates better?Explain that then tell how Kobe doesnt do it.
 

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