Alot of people on this board don't believe in god, but science. So I'd like to have someone explain to me where Jesus body is? Historically he existed and had a burial place, so where is his body now? Biblically it was resurrected, but of course there's an arguement about it..but where is it? if scientists can date a bone to be a million years old, why can't they determine christ where abouts from his tomb?
Where is Jesus?
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There is no doubt there WAS a HISTORICAL Jesus. However who Jesus really was is SURELY open to debate. You need to find out Jesus' exact burial site, then what you suggest is POSSIBLE but not necessarily doable. But listen... unless there's a Tomb that says "Jesus is buried here"... there's no way to know!
see the problem here is who do you believe in? historians will tell you the man that claims to be the son of god jesus lived and was buried in the same places listed in the bible. the bible and historians agree all the locations are correct- they differ when it comes to the status of jesus claims to be god.
the bible is specific of the area that jesus was crucified and buried. so how can anyone NOT find it, when they actually have it listed? where is the body?
the bible is specific of the area that jesus was crucified and buried. so how can anyone NOT find it, when they actually have it listed? where is the body?
Have you even read the Bible? Where does the Bible say that Jesus was buried specifically? And do you realize that nothing is exactly where it was 2,000 years ago, nor does it look like it did. And do you suppose that people who worshipped Jesus as God might have taken his body at some point, if not in his day then sometime in 2,000 years, since the Bible is so specific about where he was buried? His bones would be stolen in a second by believers and worn around their necks or something.
(Duke, i wish u hadn't closed that thread with Teck before I had a chance to answer his rebut to my last post. You give up too easy. Maybe I'll start another.)
(Duke, i wish u hadn't closed that thread with Teck before I had a chance to answer his rebut to my last post. You give up too easy. Maybe I'll start another.)
I would like to re-phrase what I said earlier. As a biology major I should of made it more clear... Ofcouse there is doubt.. Ofcourse every theory or belief is open to doubt and scrutiny... however with out getting into religion.. I believe personally there is strong evidence that supports the existence of a man by the name of Jesus.. now if you would like to inform me of some theories that say he did not even exist... do so by all means man... but I am not trying to change your beliefs or anything like that.. so go ahead and appreciate your understanding.
his "teachings" are what impacted Europe and the world, but his "teachings" can be found from earlier religions (such as Buddhism and Judaism). Just because he is well known doesn't mean he existed, everyone knows about flying dragons who shoot fire out of their mouths but they're not real.
Form of evidence that he was never resurrected? Wheres the proof that he did resurrect? There are no Roman records of a Jesus being ordered to be cruxified by Pontius Pilate, there are no records of his life during the time he was alive, only when the Gospels were written (MANY years later).
And like Jokerman said, if it was in the Bible where he was buried, followers would just take his bones as relics (much like Buddhas bones) or hide them away to keep their religion from losing credibility.
Form of evidence that he was never resurrected? Wheres the proof that he did resurrect? There are no Roman records of a Jesus being ordered to be cruxified by Pontius Pilate, there are no records of his life during the time he was alive, only when the Gospels were written (MANY years later).
And like Jokerman said, if it was in the Bible where he was buried, followers would just take his bones as relics (much like Buddhas bones) or hide them away to keep their religion from losing credibility.
If Jesus never existed than neither did anyone at that time and everyone before him, all Roman leaders, Pontius Pilate, Julius Ceasar, Persian leaders, Greek leaders, they didnt exist, no proof of their existence. or is it just Jesus?
Could a person who never lived have affected human history so remarkably more so than everyone that ever lived put together?
Could a person who never lived have affected human history so remarkably more so than everyone that ever lived put together?
I'm convinced, Lol thanks Jokerman, I really expected something better than that from you. I never knew fire breathing mythical beasts, Unicorns, Dwarfs and Elves had powerful effects on people. But those are real known Myths they're not meant to have effect on people, right?
Now i know why the Religion of Darwinism and the Myth of Evolution had this much effect on people. Because it was designed to.
Edit: Oh plz Duke re-open it, im dying to see Jokerman make an ass out of himself one more time
Now i know why the Religion of Darwinism and the Myth of Evolution had this much effect on people. Because it was designed to.
Edit: Oh plz Duke re-open it, im dying to see Jokerman make an ass out of himself one more time
There is record of the existence of Julius Caesar. Historians wrote about him. The only "evidence" for the existence of Jesus comes from Christian documents.
If people are willing to believe that he existed and that he was the son of God, despite a lack of proof, then yes. There are plenty of Gods that neither of us believe exist, but they have a huge effect on people's lives.
If people are willing to believe that he existed and that he was the son of God, despite a lack of proof, then yes. There are plenty of Gods that neither of us believe exist, but they have a huge effect on people's lives.
Well Historians wrote aout Jesus to.
From the New Encyclopedia Britannica, It states:
“These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus "(1976), MACROPÆDIA, VOL. 10, P. 145.
Cornelius Tacitus, a respected first-century Roman historian, wrote: “The name Christian is derived from Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius.”
Suetonius and Pliny the Younger, other Roman writers of the time, also referred to Christ.
Flavius Josephus, a first-century Jewish historian, wrote of James, whom he identified as “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.”
Im not talkin about Gods im talkin about the Man Jesus, Name me one man that i dont believe existed that had a fraction of the effect he had on people as Jesus did.
From the New Encyclopedia Britannica, It states:
“These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus "(1976), MACROPÆDIA, VOL. 10, P. 145.
Cornelius Tacitus, a respected first-century Roman historian, wrote: “The name Christian is derived from Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius.”
Suetonius and Pliny the Younger, other Roman writers of the time, also referred to Christ.
Flavius Josephus, a first-century Jewish historian, wrote of James, whom he identified as “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.”
Im not talkin about Gods im talkin about the Man Jesus, Name me one man that i dont believe existed that had a fraction of the effect he had on people as Jesus did.
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