United Arab Emirates firm to operate six major U.S. ports

[Khaled]

Nah - ken and a few other people on here seems to think the civilised western world should bow down to Islam , Muslims and Arab nations ( bearing in mind he lives in the west ) and feel that they are far superior to us western peasants , what he and many others fail to realise is that however great they feel they are if the west leveled the playing field to the level that these terrorists and preachers of hate decided to play at they would be wiped of the map no question . They would be destroyed .

what the hell are you talking about. Muslim arabs just want the west to stop interfering in their affairs. nothing else.

All this bullshit that the west will fall when allah strikes and the west will pay , that the west should be greatfull for Arab nations is total bollocks ,

newsflash: Bin Laden doesn't represent the muslim world.

You act like the west deserves everything it gets from terrorists

if you compare how many innocent muslims fied at the hands of Americans, and how many innocent westerners die at the hands of Arab muslims, which # do u think is highest??

that we should be forever in your debt for arab and muslims contribution to the world (as Teek neeks claims) and be thankfull for all your contributions to are societys

i agree with you on this one. i think muslims should stop selling oil to the west. Then will see how happy you will be when the gallon of oil reaches $1,000

The thing is all i see is anarchy here and abroad . The Muslims who are terrorists especialy in the u.k. act outside the law , i would love the police and armed forces to drop to their level and destroy them

yeah, right. Cus i m sure the muslims in the UK are allowed to steal and kill without paying for it

however they hide behind civil rights laws , claim benifits and call the nation that pays for their worthless arses a toilet .

These are the laws you are so proud of... like freedom of speech...

There is no question that Islam and Muslims would be destroyed if the west wanted to stop all this almighty bullshit , but they will not and worry to much about upseting anyone. I personaly say get tough and kick them out , those who want to live in peace and enjoy a hospitable society whatever religion - great !

wow... all this because a UAE company got to operate some US ports...

Im sick of all this crap that none of this wouldnt of happened if America hadnt invaded Iraq , Iraq was a hostile nation that invaded other countries for oil just like the Americans and the u.k.

and remind me: who brought Saddam to power back in 76????

etc are acused of , the people lived in a barbaric society where its own people were butchered by its own leader and lived in constant fear and oppresion - great place ! I would love ken or whoever to argue this point -

hehe, i've been to Iraq under Saddam's regime... no one butchered me. just because CNN says it, doesn't mean it's true.

Muslim terrorists use the Iraq issue as an excuse to attack the west fight their cause and kill inocent people and thats the truth , Again please tell me this is otherwise .

lol, how old are you man?? you sound like a little angry kid. you think muslims wake up everyday and say "hey, we now have an excuse to attach the US??"

you want the US to kill all muslims just because you don't like them, and yet when the US kill thousands of muslims, you expect them to shut up about it???
i think if you were born in a middle eastern country, you would make a great terrorist.

Im sure no doubt i will be called a racsist etc but i have a strong point of view on these issues would be interested in anyone arguing against my points , but not just picking out a few they have an answer for and leaving the rest because they dont have one and know dam well im right as i have seen before . Ken and co fire away if you will ....

am at your service if any of my points is not clear to u

 

[Jokerman]

In the UAE? I'd like to see where you got that from. You sure you're not getting UAE mixed up with KSA aka Saudi Arabia?

No, the UAE. Of course, Saudi Arabia, too. But the UAE's banking system was a center of al-Qaeda financial dealings. The 9/11 hijackers sent money to and received money from the UAE. And much of the operational planning for the World Trade Center attacks took place inside the UAE. This is old information that can be found all over. 9/11 Commission Report, for instance.

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

what the hell are you talking about. Muslim arabs just want the west to stop interfering in their affairs. nothing else.

I agree pull the troops out and leave , im sure the middle east can carry on fighting amoungst themselves and look forward to Iran gaining nuclear weapons .

newsflash: Bin Laden doesn't represent the muslim world.

The point you comented on was not bin laden i was talking about but protesting muslims in london , but i take the point that not all muslims feel this way .

if you compare how many innocent muslims fied at the hands of Americans, and how many innocent westerners die at the hands of Arab muslims, which # do u think is highest??

Ok where would the number of his own people that sadaam killed be in this list ? The thousands killed in arab vs arab nation wars that carry on all the time . There are a lot of problems in your neck of the woods my friend .

i agree with you on this one. i think muslims should stop selling oil to the west. Then will see how happy you will be when the gallon of oil reaches $1,000

Thats fine , so the west boycots all arab nations in all trade - inport and export and see how they cope then , i think the west will survive longer dont you .

yeah, right. Cus i m sure the muslims in the UK are allowed to steal and kill without paying for it

No but they can claim benifits from the state and parade in the countrys capital city calling for the death of innocent westeners whilst ploting and executing these crimes . My point was that i wish the state gets tough on these people , which to be fair they are trying but not acting tough enough imo . A Muslim cleric whos name escapes me has left the u.k. to join an extreme terrorist organization to fight against the west , he was however happy to leave his family here on state benifits whilst plotting death to people in this country and there was an interview with his family in the national papers saying how much they miss him and wish him well in his crusade ! Get the fuck outta here that is fucking unbelievable !

wow... all this because a UAE company got to operate some US ports...

Fair comment

and remind me: who brought Saddam to power back in 76????

And he was never going to leave with the coruption and rigged voting that went on , im sure if you didnt vote for him or challenged his regime you would pay the price of death to you and your family.

hehe, i've been to Iraq under Saddam's regime... no one butchered me. just because CNN says it, doesn't mean it's true.

Then please can you explain the pictures of joy and relief that were shown when he was kicked out , you cannot be saying that iraq wasnt a barbaric country under his rule and that it wasnt ruled under a fist of iron governed by fear and death , please do not say this as its plain to see it was .

lol, how old are you man?? you sound like a little angry kid. you think muslims wake up everyday and say "hey, we now have an excuse to attach the US??"

No but its the same excuse given whenever terrorist activities occur as justification - well if america hadnt invaded ... all the innocent muslims killed etc . Its true - people on here use it as the main and only part of their argument all the time .

you want the US to kill all muslims just because you don't like them, and yet when the US kill thousands of muslims, you expect them to shut up about it???
i think if you were born in a middle eastern country, you would make a great terrorist.

No i want the terrorists stopped and the killings , but even if the west left the Arab nations alone they would still fight amoungst themselves and shit if sadaam hadnt been stopped maybe he wouldnt of stopped himself at kuwait and got to somewhere you care for . Next stop Iran imo because there no angels either are they .

am at your service if any of my points is not clear to u

likewise

 

[Khaled]

I agree pull the troops out and leave , im sure the middle east can carry on fighting amoungst themselves and look forward to Iran gaining nuclear weapons .

you cannot name me one middle east war where the west didn't interfer.

and one more thing: should i remind you that the only country that ever used nuclear weapons against another country is the US??

Ok where would the number of his own people that sadaam killed be in this list ? The thousands killed in arab vs arab nation wars that carry on all the time . There are a lot of problems in your neck of the woods my friend .

of course, why not,
and back to my previous point: there s no way you can name me one arab vs arab war where the west didn't intervene.

Thats fine , so the west boycots all arab nations in all trade - inport and export and see how they cope then , i think the west will survive longer dont you .

lol, the west is more dependant on international trade than the middle east: that's a fact.

And he was never going to leave with the coruption and rigged voting that went on , im sure if you didnt vote for him or challenged his regime you would pay the price of death to you and your family.

fair enough, but remember, all this system was set up with the help and the blessings of the US.

No but its the same excuse given whenever terrorist activities occur as justification - well if america hadnt invaded ... all the innocent muslims killed etc . Its true - people on here use it as the main and only part of their argument all the time

This might be true, but tell me, what other arguments can we use against the west attacking us?? since you always also justify the killing of innocent muslims for Democracy and freedom...

No but they can claim benifits from the state and parade in the countrys capital city calling for the death of innocent westeners whilst ploting and executing these crimes . My point was that i wish the state gets tough on these people , which to be fair they are trying but not acting tough enough imo . A Muslim cleric whos name escapes me has left the u.k. to join an extreme terrorist organization to fight against the west , he was however happy to leave his family here on state benifits whilst plotting death to people in this country and there was an interview with his family in the national papers saying how much they miss him and wish him well in his crusade ! Get the fuck outta here that is fucking unbelievable !

as i said before, these are your laws??
are these laws only justified when the west insults muslims???
but when muslims do the same, they become outlawed??

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

you cannot name me one middle east war where the west didn't interfer.

and one more thing: should i remind you that the only country that ever used nuclear weapons against another country is the US??

I never commented otherwise and fail to see where this point comes from regarding my post , you seem to be getting in the habit of answering a question with another question , however if the fighting stopped between middle eastern countries then the u.s may not interfer but the fighting wont stop because of one word - religion . Arab nations will be fighting fors years to come and butchering each other regardles of the wests involvement - peaceful place huh ?

Whats your opinion on the Iran issue ? hey maybe the west should leave you all to it and watch Iran maybe hit where your from cause there not fucking around in regards to nuclear weapons .

of course, why not,
and back to my previous point: there s no way you can name me one arab vs arab war where the west didn't intervene.

You seem to missing something - Arab vs Arab war like the Americans getting involved is the main problem - Why not have no wars ? because of religion thats why . I get hammered for being ignorant to religion when all i see is the majority of the worlds problems are caused by religion especialy in your part of the world .

lol, the west is more dependant on international trade than the middle east: that's a fact.

Maybe your right but thats because there is a massive inport and export trade going on daily throughout the world , not just with the middle east. But what i fail to see is if the middle east stopped trading oil and boycoted the west - where would the large amount of income for these countries could come from ? I dont see a very huge demand for the sale of sand hitting the trading world.
For sure we need the oil but you need to sell it .

fair enough, but remember, all this system was set up with the help and the blessings of the US.

So do you believe he should of been left in charge - Yes or no , i would be interested in your opinion on this .

This might be true, but tell me, what other arguments can we use against the west attacking us??

I rest my case . You my friend have just answered what other muslims on this board argue around whenever i mention this , at least you are honest !

since you always also justify the killing of innocent muslims for Democracy and freedom..

I do not remember ever saying this ? do you mean the west ?

as i said before, these are your laws??
are these laws only justified when the west insults muslims???
but when muslims do the same, they become outlawed??

And i have said its a joke and the goverment need to get tough - zero tolerance .

I am starting to agree with Duke - we are going around in circles arguing the same points , we all have opinions - so ok teck neex often spurts out rubbish and im sure he will say the same of me , but we are never going to agree are we ? Even if someones wrong ( and its you ) they will never admit it will they ?

 

[TecK NeeX]

however if the fighting stopped between middle eastern countries then the u.s may not interfer but the fighting wont stop because of one word - religion . Arab nations will be fighting fors years to come and butchering each other regardles of the wests involvement - peaceful place huh ?

What fighting between middle eastern countries? do you know there was only 2 wars involving only 3 arab countries in the past 100 years? do you know how many between western countries? bout 10 times more than that involving over 20 countries. and name one me 1 war between Arab countries that was about religion.

Do you know over 80 million people died in the last 100 years from wars between western countries? compare that to about 2 million arabs/muslims died fighting each other. going by that YOU need to stop butchering each other. plz if you dont know wtf you're talking about dont talk at all.

You seem to missing something - Arab vs Arab war like the Americans getting involved is the main problem - Why not have no wars ? because of religion thats why . I get hammered for being ignorant to religion when all i see is the majority of the worlds problems are caused by religion especialy in your part of the world .

Again name me one war JUST ONE between arabs that was about religion. For fuck sakes Enough with your fucking lies

I am starting to agree with Duke - we are going around in circles arguing the same points , we all have opinions - so ok teck neex often spurts out rubbish and im sure he will say the same of me , but we are never going to agree are we ? Even if someones wrong ( and its you ) they will never admit it will they ?

Me 'spurting' rubbish? just cause you're uneducated beyond belief and not clued in to what i've been talking about doesn't mean im spurting rubbish, school yourself on these subjects and maybe, it's a long shot but maybe you'll know what im talking about..

 

[TecK NeeX]

however if the fighting stopped between middle eastern countries then the u.s may not interfer but the fighting wont stop because of one word - religion . Arab nations will be fighting fors years to come and butchering each other regardles of the wests involvement - peaceful place huh ?

Also, did i forget to mention the tens of millions of non-westeners have been 'Butchered' by the west in the past 100 years? How many non-arab/muslims have died at the hands of arabs? few thousand? Arabs dont need to stop butchering each other or others, the West should stop butchering themselves and others. You need to stop pointing out other nations problems before you point out your own issues. Seriously

This shirt would fit great on you

I dont despise the west really, I applaud them for the good they do, I'm part western after all, but they're no saints and neither are Arab/Muslim nations. What we're seeing happening in the Middle East today is no different that we would have seen in the west 100 years back. Every part of the world went through what parts of the middle east are going through now, it's just that the shit is taken place in our generation. I just can't stand it when people like Jamie here think his part of the world have always been good loving angels and the rest are flat out barbarians and have always been.

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

What fighting between middle eastern countries? do you know there was only 2 wars involving only 3 arab countries in the past 100 years? do you know how many between western countries? bout 10 times more than that involving over 20 countries. and name one me 1 war between Arab countries that was about religion.

You know what you have missed my point on this , maybe i didnt explain myself well enough - it will never stop because religion governs the way of life in the middle east especialy the Islamic faith from the laws of the land to politics am i right ,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia) certinaly more so than the western world ,true the wars you have mentioned were not religious and the Iran - Iraq war was greed , now i have said before that greed and religion often go hand in hand and that is certinaly the case with Saddam and that crazy Iranian nutter , so the conflicts will never end as religion governs the thoughts of these countrys and leaders where as the west its the law of the land not religion and some could also say greed .

This is quite interesting -

Allegations of crimes committed by Arab governments, organizations, and individuals
In general, accusations against Arab parties point to systematic killing of hundreds of Jewish civilians in the Mandate of Palestine between 1929 and 1948. Accusers also point to a trend of what appears to be regional anti-Semitism and the historical hostility of Arab regimes to the existence of a Jewish state. Actions by Palestinian organizations and neighboring Arab nations towards Israel following its creation are interpreted as largely unsuccessful genocidal actions, e.g.:

The attack on Israel in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, with the attackers (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia) explicitly stated goal being the destruction of the newly-formed state.
Continuing rhetoric by neighboring states claiming the illegitimacy of Israel and calling for its destruction.
Ongoing Intifadas by Palestinian groups, particularly the targeting of Israeli civilians by suicide bombers. Prominent figures within the Palestinian Authority, including Yasser Arafat, have made public statements on the PA State-Controlled Television calling for the destruction of Israel, which supporters of Israel argue is motivated by anti-Semitism, and constitutes a threat of genocide.
Indoctrination of Arab children to hate Jews, both through television and school education. "Indoctrination" includes teaching children to reject the right of Israel to exist, and support for Jihad against Israel and its supporters

Do you know over 80 million people died in the last 100 years from wars between western countries?

I would love to see how many were over religion ? Bosnia ring any bells ? The two world wars cover a lot of the sum you gave , one was started by a power and genocide craving lunatic who wanted world domination and if he wasnt stopped would of made his way down to the middle east and im sure the people there do not conform to the blue eyed , blonde hair type he was looking for.

compare that to about 2 million arabs/muslims died fighting each other. going by that YOU need to stop butchering each other. plz if you dont know wtf you're talking about dont talk at all.

I think you have your figures wrong here -
Iran reportadly between 450-900 THOUSAND and the same in Iraq

God knows how many in Israel .

Me 'spurting' rubbish? just cause you're uneducated beyond belief and not clued in to what i've been talking about doesn't mean im spurting rubbish, school yourself on these subjects and maybe, it's a long shot but maybe you'll know what im talking about..

Hey im no expert on this subject but still feel i have valid opinions and points which im sure can be argued against all night likewise with yourself - The rubbish point was your little post that got deleted , im sure you remember that ?? You do make some valid points however maybe you need to get a sense of humor , or maybe i just strike a nerve with some of my comments cause you know their true .

 

[arabic187]

You know what you have missed my point on this , maybe i didnt explain myself well enough - it will never stop because religion governs the way of life in the middle east especialy the Islamic faith from the laws of the land to politics am i right ,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia) certinaly more so than the western world ,true the wars you have mentioned were not religious and the Iran - Iraq war was greed , now i have said before that greed and religion often go hand in hand and that is certinaly the case with Saddam and that crazy Iranian nutter , so the conflicts will never end as religion governs the thoughts of these countrys and leaders where as the west its the law of the land not religion and some could also say greed .

This is quite interesting -





I would love to see how many were over religion ? Bosnia ring any bells ? The two world wars cover a lot of the sum you gave , one was started by a power and genocide craving lunatic who wanted world domination and if he wasnt stopped would of made his way down to the middle east and im sure the people there do not conform to the blue eyed , blonde hair type he was looking for.



I think you have your figures wrong here -
Iran reportadly between 450-900 THOUSAND and the same in Iraq

God knows how many in Israel .



Hey im no expert on this subject but still feel i have valid opinions and points which im sure can be argued against all night likewise with yourself - The rubbish point was your little post that got deleted , im sure you remember that ?? You do make some valid points however maybe you need to get a sense of humor , or maybe i just strike a nerve with some of my comments cause you know their true .

Seriously why do you want to live in this world?

I am coming to your place as a suicide bomber and yall "you are an animal". :laugh:

 

[Khaled]

I never commented otherwise and fail to see where this point comes from regarding my post , you seem to be getting in the habit of answering a question with another question , however if the fighting stopped between middle eastern countries then the u.s may not interfer but the fighting wont stop because of one word - religion . Arab nations will be fighting fors years to come and butchering each other regardles of the wests involvement - peaceful place huh ?

that's my point: you cannot claim that the middle east countries will keep on fighting, since they never did without the intervention of the US. The US doesn't interfer to help this country or the other, they only do to create some military base, and increase their presence in the region.

also, except for Israel, there are no religious conflicts in the middle east. i don't know where you got that from.

Whats your opinion on the Iran issue ? hey maybe the west should leave you all to it and watch Iran maybe hit where your from cause there not fucking around in regards to nuclear weapons .

i live about 100 km away from Israel, which also has nuclear weapons. Why do i have to worry about Iran??

You seem to missing something - Arab vs Arab war like the Americans getting involved is the main problem - Why not have no wars ? because of religion thats why . I get hammered for being ignorant to religion when all i see is the majority of the worlds problems are caused by religion especialy in your part of the world .

again? i don't know what religious wars you are talking about exactly?it's easy to throw vague comments like that.

Maybe your right but thats because there is a massive inport and export trade going on daily throughout the world , not just with the middle east. But what i fail to see is if the middle east stopped trading oil and boycoted the west - where would the large amount of income for these countries could come from ? I dont see a very huge demand for the sale of sand hitting the trading world.
For sure we need the oil but you need to sell it .

don't worry, the US and Europe also have their economic rivals: China, Russia, South America!!!

So do you believe he should of been left in charge - Yes or no , i would be interested in your opinion on this .

No i don't, but i believe if the US hadn't interfered in the begining, he wouldn't have ever been... So the Iraqi are suffering TWICE for America's mistakes (assuming they were unintentional mistakes)

I rest my case . You my friend have just answered what other muslims on this board argue around whenever i mention this , at least you are honest !

yeah, but no one here supports the terrorists actions, we just understand them.

I do not remember ever saying this ? do you mean the west ?

lol no, maybe not you, but a lot of your friends on the board.

Even if someones wrong ( and its you ) they will never admit it will they ?

well if you convince me i m wrong... i will.

it will never stop because religion governs the way of life in the middle east especialy the Islamic faith from the laws of the land to politics

Iran, KSA, Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Kuweit... are the countries that apply Sharia laws the most:
however, except for Iran, the US has great relations with every one of them.

and the only problem with Iran is the nuclear issue.

Syria, Iraq and Palestine don't apply Sharia laws. they are more of a secular power. Yet, they have the most problems with the West... alng with Iran

So the religious argument doesn't stand

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

that's my point: you cannot claim that the middle east countries will keep on fighting, since they never did without the intervention of the US. The US doesn't interfer to help this country or the other, they only do to create some military base, and increase their presence in the region.

also, except for Israel, there are no religious conflicts in the middle east. i don't know where you got that from.

My point was religion governs how middle eastern countries are run as it is the life blood of society and how people run thier lives , you cannot tell me Iraq hasnt had religious problems , Isreal has , Isnt Turkey an Arab nation with problems ? Also i do not agree with the america point a lot of suffering has been stopped due to amerias involvement in a lot of thses places regardless of any negative points , and quite a few have been religious problems

i live about 100 km away from Israel, which also has nuclear weapons. Why do i have to worry about Iran??

Lets hope you do not have to worry eh ? Do you think the world should sit back and let that nutter gain nuclear weapons ??

don't worry, the US and Europe also have their economic rivals: China, Russia, South America!!!

But i wasnt commenting on them , you said that the Arabs should stop selling oil to the west and i mentioned that the Oil that is sold helps both partys and that the oil selling nations would suffer as a result of this .

No i don't, but i believe if the US hadn't interfered in the begining, he wouldn't have ever been... So the Iraqi are suffering TWICE for America's mistakes (assuming they were unintentional mistakes)

So if they did make a mistake , and its very obvious that he was an evil dictator , do you not think it was right that they got him out ? especialy with all the suffering that went on under his regime .

yeah, but no one here supports the terrorists actions, we just understand them.

Thier seems to be a fine line but ill take your word for it .

lol no, maybe not you, but a lot of your friends on the board.

K69atie is my only friend on here but i do agree with puff and scruff a lot so you must meen him

well if you convince me i m wrong... i will.

Thats about as likely as you convincing me im wrong although ......

Iran, KSA, Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Kuweit... are the countries that apply Sharia laws the most:
however, except for Iran, the US has great relations with every one of them.

and the only problem with Iran is the nuclear issue.

Syria, Iraq and Palestine don't apply Sharia laws. they are more of a secular power. Yet, they have the most problems with the West... alng with Iran

So the religious argument doesn't stand

Very good point and i didnt know this so thank you for a little bit of education . I still do not like suicide bombers though and still feel religion is the worlds biggest problem (though im sure greed could be considered more so ) and does affect middle eastern problems greatly .

 

[PuffnScruff]

Also, did i forget to mention the tens of millions of non-westeners have been 'Butchered' by the west in the past 100 years? How many non-arab/muslims have died at the hands of arabs? few thousand? Arabs dont need to stop butchering each other or others, the West should stop butchering themselves and others. You need to stop pointing out other nations problems before you point out your own issues. Seriously
.

:laugh: seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. a few thousand.lol

should i school you on the history of slavery?

 

[PuffnScruff]

Now, getting back on topic. I found an interesting post on http://www.michellemalkin.com/. This was sent to her in an e-mail.

I work as a corporate lawyer at a large law firm that has a speciality in Islamic finance. The real reason Dubai Ports World is undergoing the transaction is because of an Islamic finance vehicle called the sukuk. The sukuk is essentially a commerical paper type of Islamic financle vehicle--it is essentially a "fake" bond to work around the Muslim prohibition on interest.

Now comes the interesting part.

As you might know, Dubai has recently christened (my word) its stock exchange. It hasn't been very successful thus far--so they've been looking to
acquire really high profile items to trade on it. (Note: they also tried to buy the Refco assets after Refco collapsed). If the Dubai Ports World sukuk goes through, it becomes the largest publicly traded sukuk in the world.

As a result, Dubai instantly becomes the place to go for Islamic finance in the world--and folks specializing in Islamic finance stand to make a great deal of money.



there is no credibility to this of course, but it is interesting none the less.

 

[TecK NeeX]

:laugh: seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. a few thousand.lol

should i school you on the history of slavery?

Plz read wtf we're talking about before you come off as if you think you're sounding very smart, we're talking about non-muslims that have been killed by muslims during wars. plus if you wanna include slavery you really dont want me to include western slavery now do you? we all know who are the pros when it comes to that.

Now if you wanna school me on history of "islamic slavery" id be very interested to learn how much you think know about that subject, cause im already getting the hint that you dont know very much to even bring it up

 

[Khaled]

Lets hope you do not have to worry eh ? Do you think the world should sit back and let that nutter gain nuclear weapons ??

to be clear, i m for all countries to disarm their nuclear arsenal. But if Israel has it, why not Iran too???

But i wasnt commenting on them , you said that the Arabs should stop selling oil to the west and i mentioned that the Oil that is sold helps both partys and that the oil selling nations would suffer as a result of this .

by West, we usually mean the US and Europe. ie the "west" of the cold war period.

So if they did make a mistake , and its very obvious that he was an evil dictator , do you not think it was right that they got him out ? especialy with all the suffering that went on under his regime

well, if they had done it smoothly, without all the shit that has been going on, it might have been different. I don't know if two wrongs make it right, and some people think it was better before, others think it s better now.

I think even if the US hadn't interfered, the people would have revolted when they were ready to kick him out. It might have taken some time, but Saddam's regime would have gone down anyway, just let things take their course naturally. You cannotimpose democracy or values on people. The constitution that was set there will never work.

 

[Glockmatic]

to be clear, i m for all countries to disarm their nuclear arsenal. But if Israel has it, why not Iran too???

I don't see any Israeli leaders saying "Arab countries should be wiped off the face of the planet".

 

[TecK NeeX]

I don't see any Israeli leaders saying "Arab countries should be wiped off the face of the planet".

Oh you'd be very surprised to read what past leaders and most recent have been saying about Plaestinians and arabs in general

 

[Glockmatic]

Oh you'd be very surprised to read what past leaders and most recent have been saying about Plaestinians and arabs in general

links please? All i've heard recently is how the Iranian leader has called for the destruction of Israel

 

[not really ken]

America created globalisation and has riden the wave for 50 odd years creating the 'multinationals' of today. Now, they are being hustled at their own game and the don't like it. Indians are trying to acquire steel companies in France making theirs the biggest in the world by far and Chirac and the French also have problems, sweet justice really.
To that other guy who was asking if I was serious! if arab investments were pulled out of the US, the US wouldn't have much of an economy left, hell even Bin Laden has investments and other so called terrorists have millions in the US. What's so sinister about this statement, how does this tie in with me thinking i'm better than Jamie Uk?

 

[arabic187]

lol at some thinking Turkey/Iran Arabic nations.