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who did smackdown draft?
RAW got Carlito? Smackdown is getting raped.
Angle > Benoit, since Angle can talk
Cena > Orton, since can talk better, and is hotter right now
Smackdown needs to get Christian or Jericho, though if they did that might foreshadow the winner of the Vengeance match.
If not one of those two then
RAW got Carlito? Smackdown is getting raped.
Angle > Benoit, since Angle can talk
Cena > Orton, since can talk better, and is hotter right now
Smackdown needs to get Christian or Jericho, though if they did that might foreshadow the winner of the Vengeance match.
If not one of those two then
who did smackdown draft?
Just watched RAW, Cena's opening promo was HOT. Cena is definitely the new Rock. Not just his mic skills but his limited moveset too. Don't get me wrong, though, The Rock was better.
Carlito is an awesome character, but he could do with some new music. He's a flexible character, which is good. And the Apple Shot? That is cool. I might start doing that to people I don't like.
Hunter pinned Batista, which would usual signal that Batista was going to get the win at Vengeance. I'm not convinced.
The Matt Hardy thing was COLD, and as someone on PWTorch mentioned, it doesn't make business sense. Why get the fans to cheer for someone who's working in another promotion?
Kane's head popping through the floor just as the priest said "JESUS CHRIST" was HILARIOUS. I rewound that part about four times. GENIUS.
Smackdown's draft pick? My prediction is Hassan. Makes sense for him to switch.
Just watched RAW, Cena's opening promo was HOT. Cena is definitely the new Rock. Not just his mic skills but his limited moveset too. Don't get me wrong, though, The Rock was better.
Carlito is an awesome character, but he could do with some new music. He's a flexible character, which is good. And the Apple Shot? That is cool. I might start doing that to people I don't like.
Hunter pinned Batista, which would usual signal that Batista was going to get the win at Vengeance. I'm not convinced.
The Matt Hardy thing was COLD, and as someone on PWTorch mentioned, it doesn't make business sense. Why get the fans to cheer for someone who's working in another promotion?
Kane's head popping through the floor just as the priest said "JESUS CHRIST" was HILARIOUS. I rewound that part about four times. GENIUS.
Smackdown's draft pick? My prediction is Hassan. Makes sense for him to switch.
who did smackdown draft?
Once again Illuminattile your opinion is good . I like Hassan and feel with a good run and given the chance he could become a good U.S. Champion on Smackdown - They could have a good storyline where he wins the belt and changes it or refuses to wear it for what he thinks it represents .
Also i like Carlito but where does this leave Matt Morgan ?? A fued with the Big Show i guess , but i think they have missed the boat with him . He is a big man and with a better character could be a top heal , but at the moment his character sssssucks !! And what ever happened to Nathan Jones ?? I thought he and Morgan where awsome as Lesners picks for Survivour Series a couple of years back , they could form a destructive partniship together terrorising the roster . But at the moment at least im enjoying whats going on , i mean if Carlito who seemed pretty bedded down on smackdown move as well as the champion anything can still happen even though it seems Smackdown is getting hammered of its talent so far .
Once again Illuminattile your opinion is good . I like Hassan and feel with a good run and given the chance he could become a good U.S. Champion on Smackdown - They could have a good storyline where he wins the belt and changes it or refuses to wear it for what he thinks it represents .
Also i like Carlito but where does this leave Matt Morgan ?? A fued with the Big Show i guess , but i think they have missed the boat with him . He is a big man and with a better character could be a top heal , but at the moment his character sssssucks !! And what ever happened to Nathan Jones ?? I thought he and Morgan where awsome as Lesners picks for Survivour Series a couple of years back , they could form a destructive partniship together terrorising the roster . But at the moment at least im enjoying whats going on , i mean if Carlito who seemed pretty bedded down on smackdown move as well as the champion anything can still happen even though it seems Smackdown is getting hammered of its talent so far .
who did smackdown draft?
*SMACKDOWN/VELOCITY SPOILERS*
I am a prediction God.
Full results here
Smackdown:
Muhammad Hassan (and Davairi) debut as the new Smackdown pick, Big Show comes out for an impromptu match. Hassan wins after a distraction.
Paul London beats Chavo when El Lucha Luxury AKA 3L AKA Super Crazy, Psychosis and Juventud Guerrera distracted Chavo. They beat him up post-match.
They announced a new Smackdown Heavyweight Title to be decided next week in a match between Benoit, JBL, Taker, Hassan, Big Show and Booker T.
*SMACKDOWN/VELOCITY SPOILERS*
I am a prediction God.
Full results here
Smackdown:
Muhammad Hassan (and Davairi) debut as the new Smackdown pick, Big Show comes out for an impromptu match. Hassan wins after a distraction.
Paul London beats Chavo when El Lucha Luxury AKA 3L AKA Super Crazy, Psychosis and Juventud Guerrera distracted Chavo. They beat him up post-match.
They announced a new Smackdown Heavyweight Title to be decided next week in a match between Benoit, JBL, Taker, Hassan, Big Show and Booker T.
who did smackdown draft?
Im Not Understanding What Vince is Doing, A New Smackdown Heavyweight Title WTF "Shakes Head". Thats Dumb
You Have Jericho, Or Christian Win the title at Vengence. an Either One Of Them Come to Smackdown. 2 titles on Raw, Were going back In time When They Had The WCW an WWE Title, When Jericho Won That An became The Undisputed Champ. You Just Watch Later On Down The Road Triple HHH Will Beat Cena An Become The 2nd Undisputed Champion.
A Bad Move For WWE, Smackdown is The Weakest Of The 2. But Will See Next Week Who SD Gets Maybe Batista<(Without The Belt) an Maybe Snitzky (I still See This Happening Him an Heindenrich Winning The Tag Team Championship)
My Opinion All Of Us Wrestling Fans on TB We Could be Writers For The WWE, We Would Come Up With Better Ideas Than What They Got.
Im Not Understanding What Vince is Doing, A New Smackdown Heavyweight Title WTF "Shakes Head". Thats Dumb
You Have Jericho, Or Christian Win the title at Vengence. an Either One Of Them Come to Smackdown. 2 titles on Raw, Were going back In time When They Had The WCW an WWE Title, When Jericho Won That An became The Undisputed Champ. You Just Watch Later On Down The Road Triple HHH Will Beat Cena An Become The 2nd Undisputed Champion.
A Bad Move For WWE, Smackdown is The Weakest Of The 2. But Will See Next Week Who SD Gets Maybe Batista<(Without The Belt) an Maybe Snitzky (I still See This Happening Him an Heindenrich Winning The Tag Team Championship)
My Opinion All Of Us Wrestling Fans on TB We Could be Writers For The WWE, We Would Come Up With Better Ideas Than What They Got.
who did smackdown draft?
I agree hes a spent force - I love his entrance but he doesnt have that unbeatable feel anymore , before i would always think that he would win every match , that the WWE would never let him lose face but now it seems to me he is mainly used to put people over -give them a name , this is a shame imo , sure he is getting old but i think he should br used sparingly and to good affect like Stone Cold or the Rock .
I agree hes a spent force - I love his entrance but he doesnt have that unbeatable feel anymore , before i would always think that he would win every match , that the WWE would never let him lose face but now it seems to me he is mainly used to put people over -give them a name , this is a shame imo , sure he is getting old but i think he should br used sparingly and to good affect like Stone Cold or the Rock .
who did smackdown draft?
At some point two of the titles are gonna have to get unified, which is pointless. That'll make the RAW belt look even better, and the Smackdown belt even worse. The only thing they can do to salvage this thing is have the winner of the belt turn it into the ECW World Title. But, there's nobody in the six-man match who really epitomises ECW enough to do something like that.
I think both shows get two drafts next week, so they could feasibly put, say, Edge and Kane on SD! giving SD! two big names and letting them continue their feud.
They made him look incredibly weak on Smackdown last week. At WrestleMania Orton gave him an RKO, yet 'Taker recovered enough to Tombstone him minutes later. This week, one RKO kept him down long enough for JBL to pin him (and did you notice how slowly he crawled over to cover him? Learnt that one from HHH...) and then couldn't even get to his feet by the time Smackdown went off the air.
At some point two of the titles are gonna have to get unified, which is pointless. That'll make the RAW belt look even better, and the Smackdown belt even worse. The only thing they can do to salvage this thing is have the winner of the belt turn it into the ECW World Title. But, there's nobody in the six-man match who really epitomises ECW enough to do something like that.
I think both shows get two drafts next week, so they could feasibly put, say, Edge and Kane on SD! giving SD! two big names and letting them continue their feud.
They made him look incredibly weak on Smackdown last week. At WrestleMania Orton gave him an RKO, yet 'Taker recovered enough to Tombstone him minutes later. This week, one RKO kept him down long enough for JBL to pin him (and did you notice how slowly he crawled over to cover him? Learnt that one from HHH...) and then couldn't even get to his feet by the time Smackdown went off the air.
who did smackdown draft?
Where did you hear that the draft is random (Storyline wise). They get to choose who they draft. I doubt, even storyline wise, Raw would just randomly get Cena, or Angle, Bischoff "chose" them. Same with SD. It's not random, it never was. I don't know where you got that idea from. In real life tho, only the guy who's getting drafted knows he's getting drafted. Vince keeps them in a car in the parking lot so no one will find out. Although I'm sure Taker knew Orton was coming, since it tied into the result and finish of a match.
Where did you hear that the draft is random (Storyline wise). They get to choose who they draft. I doubt, even storyline wise, Raw would just randomly get Cena, or Angle, Bischoff "chose" them. Same with SD. It's not random, it never was. I don't know where you got that idea from. In real life tho, only the guy who's getting drafted knows he's getting drafted. Vince keeps them in a car in the parking lot so no one will find out. Although I'm sure Taker knew Orton was coming, since it tied into the result and finish of a match.
who did smackdown draft?
You don't know where I got that idea from? Here, let me show you.
Take a little look at the name of the thing: The draft lottery. Lottery's are random, that's the whole point of a lottery. You don't know what numbers are gonna come up.
Now let me follow that up with the description of the draft lottery from the WWE website:
"Keep in mind that all picks in the 2005 WWE Draft Lottery will be drawn at random."
Where are you getting this from? You think Jericho, Christian, JBL, HHH and Flair all just adlibbed their little confrontations with the draftees? Of course they knew who it was gonna be.
You don't know where I got that idea from? Here, let me show you.
Take a little look at the name of the thing: The draft lottery. Lottery's are random, that's the whole point of a lottery. You don't know what numbers are gonna come up.
Now let me follow that up with the description of the draft lottery from the WWE website:
"Keep in mind that all picks in the 2005 WWE Draft Lottery will be drawn at random."
Where are you getting this from? You think Jericho, Christian, JBL, HHH and Flair all just adlibbed their little confrontations with the draftees? Of course they knew who it was gonna be.
who did smackdown draft?
The people involved in bringing the picks out know, but none of the other wrestlers do. They do keep them in the car in the parking lot however so the internet sites can't post it before it airs. I should have worded my post better. BTW, I get my info from www.wrestlezone.com
The people involved in bringing the picks out know, but none of the other wrestlers do. They do keep them in the car in the parking lot however so the internet sites can't post it before it airs. I should have worded my post better. BTW, I get my info from www.wrestlezone.com
who did smackdown draft?
I agree that smackdown is the weaker of the shows, but I think Vince wants smackdown to become a DEVELOPMENT TERRITORY. Smackdown is the show that will prepare superstars for the more mainstream primetime RAW. But I agree that WWE has plenty of top stars and they keep creating new champions on SD to go to RAW. Soon they'll be an abundance of former top heavyweight champions.
Look at some of the former heavyweight champions WWE has now: Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena, JBL, Batista, HHH, Shawn Micheals. ---------------------------------------------------All these guys at one point have been on top of the company or in the main spotlight. My point is, there is enough stars in the company already and I see no need for anymore stars to be created and added to this list. At this rate of champions, soon Hassan and Carlito will be champions
There are an abundance of top heavyweight champions and most of them are on RAW, but I'd agree if Vince would have some of them come over to Smackdown to give the show some star power. I mean who else is WWE gonna create from SD and bring to RAW.
But at the same time, I feel its good that the WWE title is on RAW. Lets face it, RAW is a sort of MUST SEE SHOW compared to smackdown. Besides, since there's more superstars on RAW, it makes sense that the title is there. Cena was getting tiring on SD and now that he's on RAW, he's refreshed and now has a whole new list of contenders for the title he holds. Once Sd moves to FRIDAYS, ratings will likely go down, so the WWE is trying its luck and is trying by putting all their money in the RAW bag. In a way, its a smart move. We can now see Cena vs. HBK. That would be a great match for the WWE title.
I doubt that the titles will unite again. The WWE belt now has its own history and significance along with the WORLD TITLE. Now that smackdown is creating its own title, there's no way they'll get rid of the WWE title. Also imagine if Jericho and or Christian were to win the title and come to sd, it would be too obvious and wrestling isn't suppose to be obvious. WWE wants shock value and that wouldn't be shocking. Raw has a larger roster, so the WWE title needs to definitely be there. Everyone can't compete for the World Title, so the WWE title would be a good alternative for guys like Jericho and Christian that are all over the place storyline wise.
But, if they do unite the 2 titles again, then the WWE writers and McMahon need serious help!!!!!
I agree that smackdown is the weaker of the shows, but I think Vince wants smackdown to become a DEVELOPMENT TERRITORY. Smackdown is the show that will prepare superstars for the more mainstream primetime RAW. But I agree that WWE has plenty of top stars and they keep creating new champions on SD to go to RAW. Soon they'll be an abundance of former top heavyweight champions.
Look at some of the former heavyweight champions WWE has now: Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena, JBL, Batista, HHH, Shawn Micheals. ---------------------------------------------------All these guys at one point have been on top of the company or in the main spotlight. My point is, there is enough stars in the company already and I see no need for anymore stars to be created and added to this list. At this rate of champions, soon Hassan and Carlito will be champions
There are an abundance of top heavyweight champions and most of them are on RAW, but I'd agree if Vince would have some of them come over to Smackdown to give the show some star power. I mean who else is WWE gonna create from SD and bring to RAW.
But at the same time, I feel its good that the WWE title is on RAW. Lets face it, RAW is a sort of MUST SEE SHOW compared to smackdown. Besides, since there's more superstars on RAW, it makes sense that the title is there. Cena was getting tiring on SD and now that he's on RAW, he's refreshed and now has a whole new list of contenders for the title he holds. Once Sd moves to FRIDAYS, ratings will likely go down, so the WWE is trying its luck and is trying by putting all their money in the RAW bag. In a way, its a smart move. We can now see Cena vs. HBK. That would be a great match for the WWE title.
I doubt that the titles will unite again. The WWE belt now has its own history and significance along with the WORLD TITLE. Now that smackdown is creating its own title, there's no way they'll get rid of the WWE title. Also imagine if Jericho and or Christian were to win the title and come to sd, it would be too obvious and wrestling isn't suppose to be obvious. WWE wants shock value and that wouldn't be shocking. Raw has a larger roster, so the WWE title needs to definitely be there. Everyone can't compete for the World Title, so the WWE title would be a good alternative for guys like Jericho and Christian that are all over the place storyline wise.
But, if they do unite the 2 titles again, then the WWE writers and McMahon need serious help!!!!!
who did smackdown draft?
WWE already has a development territory. Most people won't tune in to Smackdown just to see jobbers.
Well if the rosters were more balanced it wouldn't be a problem. As it stands, as soon as someone gets over enough, they get drafted to feud with HHH, the "real" World Champion.
You always need to create new stars. You need to keep it fresh at the top of the card, so you don't get repetitive. Plus, I can't see HBK, Flair, 'Taker, Big Show or Kane getting a title run any time soon, unless it's a "one last run" kinda thing.
It might be smart in the short term, but once Smackdown gets a new timeslot on a new station, you can't have a bunch of second-rate performers fighting over the third most prestigious belt in the company.
Having two major titles on one show isn't an option. HHH's belt is obviously the more important of the two, since he's main eventing Vengeance in a HIAC, while Cena is wrestling on the undercard. You can't have two World Champions on one show, it doesn't work in the long run. It totally negates the whole idea of the champion being the best in the brand/company/world. Cena will suffer because his belt is not the best belt on the show anymore. If both belts stay on RAW, they'll get merged. Otherwise, one of the champions (likely Batista, Y2J or Christian) will jump to Smackdown and they'll either not bother with a new belt or they'll merge those two belts.
WWE already has a development territory. Most people won't tune in to Smackdown just to see jobbers.
Well if the rosters were more balanced it wouldn't be a problem. As it stands, as soon as someone gets over enough, they get drafted to feud with HHH, the "real" World Champion.
You always need to create new stars. You need to keep it fresh at the top of the card, so you don't get repetitive. Plus, I can't see HBK, Flair, 'Taker, Big Show or Kane getting a title run any time soon, unless it's a "one last run" kinda thing.
It might be smart in the short term, but once Smackdown gets a new timeslot on a new station, you can't have a bunch of second-rate performers fighting over the third most prestigious belt in the company.
Having two major titles on one show isn't an option. HHH's belt is obviously the more important of the two, since he's main eventing Vengeance in a HIAC, while Cena is wrestling on the undercard. You can't have two World Champions on one show, it doesn't work in the long run. It totally negates the whole idea of the champion being the best in the brand/company/world. Cena will suffer because his belt is not the best belt on the show anymore. If both belts stay on RAW, they'll get merged. Otherwise, one of the champions (likely Batista, Y2J or Christian) will jump to Smackdown and they'll either not bother with a new belt or they'll merge those two belts.
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